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Îïöèè òåìû Ïîèñê â ýòîé òåìå Îïöèè ïðîñìîòðà
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Ñòàðûé 20.10.2016, 14:11
Elenasus Elenasus âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.09.2016
Ãîðîä: Àíàïà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 57
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 8
Elenasus *
Ïîâûøåí Ïðîëàêòèí.

Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Êîëëåãè ïîäñêàæèòå àëãîðèòì îáñëåäîâàíèÿ è äàëüíåéøèå äåéñòâèÿ.
Ïàöèåíò, 18 ëåò(ïîë ìóæñêîé) æàëîáû íà óâåëè÷åíèå âåñà â òå÷åíèè 3 ëåò íà 10 êã, óâåëè÷åíèå ãðóäíûõ æåë¸ç è ñòðèè íà ðóêàõ è æèâîòå. Íà îñíîâàíèè æàëîá ïðîâåäåíî îáñëåäîâàíèå:
Òòã, ò4ñâ, òåñòîñòåðîí îáù, ñóò. Ìî÷à íà êîðòèçîë, ãëþêîçà- íîðìà, ïîâûøåí áûë íåìíîãî Ïðîëàêòèí( öèôðû íå ïîìíþ) ïåðåñäàëè åù¸ ðàç:
Ïðîëàêòèí 483,9 ïðè íîðìå äî 322; çíà÷èìîãî êîëè÷åñòâà ìàêðîïðîëàêòèíà íå âûÿâëåíî; Ïðîëàêòèí 82,37%. Íà óçêè ãðóäíûõ æåë¸ç - ëîæíàÿ ãèíåêîìàñòèÿ. ß òàê ïîíèìàþ áèîëîãè÷åñêè àêòèâíîãî Ïðîëàêòèíà 398,5- ÷òî äåëàòü â òàêîé ñèòóàöèè, êîãäà íåáîëüøîå ïîâûøåíèå? Íóæíî ëè ìðò ñ êîíòðàñòíîì?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #2  
Ñòàðûé 20.10.2016, 14:13
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko íà ôîðóìå
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,282
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,625 ðàç(à) çà 32,699 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ïîâûøåíèÿ íåò
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Ã.À. Ìåëüíè÷åíêî
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #3  
Ñòàðûé 20.10.2016, 17:21
Elenasus Elenasus âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.09.2016
Ãîðîä: Àíàïà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 57
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 8
Elenasus *
Èçâèíèòå , íî çíà÷èò ÿ ÷òî- òî íå ïîíèìàþ. Âåäü ïîëó÷àåòñÿ ìàêðîïðîëàêòèíà 18% îò 483. Ýòî æå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ ÷òî áèîëîãè÷åñêè àêòèâíîãî Ïðîëàêòèíà áóäåò áîëüøå ÷åì ðåôåðîíñíîãî?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 20.10.2016, 18:14
Samitin Samitin âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.08.2009
Ãîðîä: Ñàðàòîâ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 2,224
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 8
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 765 ðàç(à) çà 691 ñîîáùåíèé
Samitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ñëèøêîì íåáîëüøîå ïîâûøåíèå, ÷òîáû áûòü çíà÷èìûì.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #5  
Ñòàðûé 20.10.2016, 19:21
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko íà ôîðóìå
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,282
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,625 ðàç(à) çà 32,699 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ðåôåðåíñ- òî , ÷òî åñòü ó 90% èäåàëüíî çäîðîâûõ ïî äàííîìó ïàðàìåòðó. À ãðóïïà êîíòðîëÿ â È È Áàðìèíîé áûëà ïîðÿäêà 50 ÷åëîâåê. Íó ïðàâî ñëîâî , íå ìîëèòåñü íà öèôðó
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Ã.À. Ìåëüíè÷åíêî
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #6  
Ñòàðûé 21.10.2016, 16:21
Elenasus Elenasus âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.09.2016
Ãîðîä: Àíàïà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 57
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 8
Elenasus *
À ÷òî ó ìóæ÷èí èç êëèíèêè ìîæåò èìåòü îòíîøåíèå ê ãèïåðïðîëàêòèíåìèè?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #7  
Ñòàðûé 21.10.2016, 16:22
Elenasus Elenasus âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.09.2016
Ãîðîä: Àíàïà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 57
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 8
Elenasus *
Ïðîñòî ÿ òàê ïîíèìàþ ó äàííîãî ïàöèåíòà íàëè÷èå îæèðåíèÿ, ãèíåêîìàñòèÿ íåëüçÿ îòíåñòè. Ìîæåò ìíå ÷òî- òî ñëåäóåò óòî÷íèòü ó ïàöèåíòà?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #8  
Ñòàðûé 21.10.2016, 18:58
Samitin Samitin âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.08.2009
Ãîðîä: Ñàðàòîâ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 2,224
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 8
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 765 ðàç(à) çà 691 ñîîáùåíèé
Samitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Elenasus Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
À ÷òî ó ìóæ÷èí èç êëèíèêè ìîæåò èìåòü îòíîøåíèå ê ãèïåðïðîëàêòèíåìèè?
Íåò ó íåãî ãèïåðïðîëàêòèíåìèè...

 îáùåì æå ñëó÷àå òàê ([Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]):

Öèòàòà:
Men typically present with complaints of sexual dysfunction (although the aforementioned study by Rubio-Abadal et al found the prevalence of sexual dysfunction equal between men and women),[5] visual problems, or headache and are subsequently diagnosed with hyperprolactinemia in the evaluation process. Prolactin suppresses GnRH, causing a decrease in luteinizing hormone and follicle-stimulating hormone, ultimately leading to decreased serum testosterone levels and hypogonadism. Prolactinoma in men also may cause neurological symptoms, particularly visual-field defects.

In both sexes, the presence of a pituitary tumor may cause visual-field defects or headache. Most patients with a prolactinoma (the most common type of pituitary adenoma) are women.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #9  
Ñòàðûé 21.10.2016, 21:58
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko íà ôîðóìå
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,282
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,625 ðàç(à) çà 32,699 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
À ïî÷åìó íàäî íàòÿãèâàòü íåñóùåñòâóþùèé äèàãíîç? ×åì îæèðåíèå ïëîõîé äèàãíîç?
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Ã.À. Ìåëüíè÷åíêî
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #10  
Ñòàðûé 21.10.2016, 23:00
Elenasus Elenasus âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.09.2016
Ãîðîä: Àíàïà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 57
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 8
Elenasus *
íåò äèàãíîç íîðìàëüíûé, ïðîñòî åù¸ ãèíåêîìàñòèÿ, ñòðèè, ïîýòîìó è äóìàþ ê ÷åìó ýòî ïîâÿçàòü, íî âèäèìî âñå ýòî ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíûå ñîñòîÿíèå
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #11  
Ñòàðûé 21.10.2016, 23:02
Elenasus Elenasus âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.09.2016
Ãîðîä: Àíàïà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 57
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 8
Elenasus *
Ïðîñòî åù¸ äëÿ äåâóøåê ïðè ïîâûøåííîì Ïðîëàêòèíà êëèíèêà ÿðêî îïèñàíà, à ïðî ìóæ÷èí äàæå è íå ïîìíþ, âïåðâûå âûÿâèëàòàêîå ó ìóæ÷èíâ
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #12  
Ñòàðûé 22.10.2016, 09:27
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko íà ôîðóìå
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,282
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,625 ðàç(à) çà 32,699 ñîîáùåíèé
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Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,282
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
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Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Âû íè÷åãî íå âûÿâèëè, Âû ñäåëàëè áåññìûñëåííîå èññëåäîâàíèå : ãèíåêîìàñòèÿ ðåäêî âûçûâàåòñÿ èçáûòêîì ïðîëàêòèíà, ó òó÷íûõ ïðîëàêòèí ìá íåñêîëüêî áîëåå âûñîêèì, ãëàâíîå â ðåàëüíîì èçáûòêå ïðîëàêòèíà ó ìóæ÷èí - îòñóòñòâèå ëèáèäî, ýðåêòèëüíàÿ äèñôóíêöèÿ, áåñïëîäèå è íåâðîëîãè÷åñêèå íàðóøåíèÿ, ïîåëèêó ÷àñòî áîëüøàÿ îïóõîëü ïðè÷èíà
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