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Öèñòèò íà ðàííèõ ñðîêàõ. ×åì ëå÷èòü?

Äîáðûé äåíü!

Áåñïîêîèò òÿæåñòü âíèçó æèâîòà, ó÷àùåííîå ìî÷åèñïóñêàíèå, ðåçè- â îáùåì, öèñòèòîïîäîáíîå ñîñòîÿíèå. Àíàëèç ìî÷è, êàê íè ñòðàííî, â íîðìå. ×åì ìîæíî ïîëå÷èòüñÿ ïðè ñðîêå 7 íåäåëü? Âðà÷ íèêàêèõ ëåêàðñòâ íå íàçíà÷èë, ñêàçàë, ÷òî ñàìî ïðîéäåò, íàäî ëèøü áîëüøå ïèòü. Íî ñèìïòîìû òî çàòóõàþò, òî ïðîÿâëÿþòñÿ ñ íîâîé ñèëîé

Ìîæíî ëè ïèòü áðóñíè÷íûé ëèñò è òîëîêíÿíêó? Êëþêâåííûé ìîðñ óæå èç óøåé ëåçåò

Çàðàíåå ñïàñèáî çà îòâåòû!
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Ñòàðûé 16.07.2003, 00:23
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Íèêòî íå çíàåò?? Íèêòî íå ìîæåò îòâåòèòü??
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Ñòàðûé 16.07.2003, 07:57
Àâàòàð äëÿ yakov
yakov yakov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 25.07.2001
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Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 4 ðàç(à) çà 3 ñîîáùåíèé
yakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Äà, òðàâû èñïîëüçîâàòü ìîæíî.
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Ñòàðûé 17.07.2003, 16:35
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Ñïàñèáî! Íî... âñå îñëîæíÿåòñÿ...

Îòïðàâèëè ìî÷ó íà êóëüòóðó è âûÿâèëè-òàêè áàêòåðèè (òî-òî ÿ ñìîòðþ, ÷òî òðàâêè íå øèáêî-òî è ïîìîãàþò), íàçíà÷èëè Ìàêðîáèä. Ïðåïàðàò íèòðîôóðàíîâîãî ðÿäà.  Øòàòàõ âðîäå øèðîêî ïðèìåíÿåòñÿ è íà ðàííèõ ñðîêàõ òîæå, à âîò â Ðîññèè åãî îáõîäÿò ñòîðîíîé, íó èëè íå â ïåðâîì òðèìåñòðå, çàìåíÿÿ ïåíèöèëëèíîâûìè ïðåïàðàòàìè. Âîò ÿ íà ðàñïóòüå- áåçîïàñíî èëè íåò???
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Ñòàðûé 17.07.2003, 17:34
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yakov yakov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
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Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 4 ðàç(à) çà 3 ñîîáùåíèé
yakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Äà, òàê îíî è åñòü. Ïðèíÿòü îêîí÷àòåëüíîå ðåøåíèå äîëæíû Âû ñàìè.
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ß Â ØÎÊÅ!!!

Ïîëåçëà íà [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ] â ïîèñêàõ èíôû, íî äàæå ó íèõ â âîïðîñàõ è îòâåòàõ ñïëîøíûå ïðîòèâîðå÷èÿ!!!!! È êîìó âåðèòü è ÷òî äåëàòü?!!!

Öèòèðóþ:
"ÂÎÏÐÎÑ: Çäðàâñòâóéòå, äîêòîð! Ïîìîãèòå ïîæàëóéñòà ñîâåòîì! Ó ìåíÿ 5-6 íåäåëü áåðåìåííîñòè, ê ñîæàëåíèþ, îáîñòðèëñÿ õðîíè÷åñêèé öèñòèò ( ñòðàäàþ îò íåãî óæå 15 ëåò ) ãèíåêîëîã ñêàçàë, ÷òî ÿ íå äîëæíà íè÷åãî ïðèíèìàòü, êðîìå îáèëüíîãî ïèòüÿ, íî ýòî àáñîëþòíî íå ïîìîãàåò. Âîò óæå íåäåëþ ïüþ òîëüêî âîäó, ñåãîäíÿ ïîøëà â àïòåêó è ìíå ïîñîâåòîâàëè ÷àé èç ëèñòüåâ òîëîêíÿíêè, íî â ðåêîìåíäàöèè êàê ïðîòèâîïîêàçàíèå ñòîèò áåðåìåííîñòü. ß æèâó â Ãåðìàíèè è, ê ñîæàëåíèþ, íå ìîãó îáðàòèòüñÿ ëè÷íî ê íàøèì âðà÷àì, íî î÷åíü íàäåþñü íà âàøó ïîìîùü.Çàðàíåå áëàãîäàðþ.

ÎÒÂÅÒ:  ñëó÷àå îáîñòðåíèÿ öèñòèòà íåçàâèñèìî îò ñðîêà áåðåìåííîñòè ñëåäóåò îñóùåñòâëÿòü ëå÷åíèå. Ïðè ýòîì ôèòîòåðàïèþ öåëåñîîáðàçíî èñïîëüçîâàòü, â ÷àñòíîñòè òîëîêíÿíêó. Ýòî ñðåäñòâî ìîæåòå ïðèíèìàòü áåç îïàñåíèé. Íåïëîõîé ðåçóëüòàò ìîæåò äàòü òàêîé ïðåïàðàò êàê Êàíåôðîí (Canephron, ïî 50 êàï 3 ðàçà â ñóò èëè ïî 2 äðàæå 3 ðàçà â ñóò ) Îäíàêî îñíîâîé ëå÷åíèÿ äîëæíà âñå æå áûòü àíòèáàêòåðèàëüíàÿ òåðàïèÿ.  ýòîì ñðîêå áåðåìåííîñòè ìîæíî èñïîëüçîâàòü àìïèöèëëèí (0,5 ã 4 ðàçà â äåíü âíóòðü) èëè àìîêñèöèëëèí (ïî 0,25 ã 3 ðàçà â äåíü âíóòðü). Ìîæíî èñïîëüçîâàòü íèòðîôóðàíòîèí (îí æå ôóðàäîíèí, ïî 100 ìã 4 ðàçà â ñóòêè). Áåçîïàñíûìè àíòèáèîòèêàìè ÿâëÿþòñÿ ìíîãèå öåôàëîñïîðèíû, íàïðèìåð Öåôàëåêñèí (ïî 0,5 ã 4 ðàçà â ñóò âíóòðü). Ëå÷åíèå àíòèáèîòèêàìè ïðîäîëæàþò 7 äíåé. Êàíåôðîí è òðàâÿíûå ñðåäñòâà ïðèìåíÿþò äëèòåëüíî ïî 2-3 íåäåëè. Òàê ÷òî, êàê âèäèòå âîçìîæíîñòè ëå÷åíèÿ åñòü è ëå÷åíèå íóæíî îáÿçàòåëüíî ïðîâîäèòü, åñëè ó âàñ äåéñòâèòåëüíî öèñòèò, ïîäòâåðæäåííûé êàê êëèíè÷åñêèìè òàê è ëàáîðàòîðíûìè ìåòîäàìè. Óêàçàííûå ñðåäñòâà óæå â äîñòàòî÷íîé ñòåïåíè àïðîáèðîâàíû íà ðàííèõ ñðîêàõ áåðåìåííîñòè è áåçîïàñíû äëÿ ïëîäà.

B]íèòðîôóðàíòîèí (îí æå ôóðàäîíèí[/b] íèòðîôóðàíòîèí (îí æå ôóðàäîíèí

äàëåå!

"ÂÎÏÐÎÑ: Ó ìåíÿ 20 íåäåëü áåðåìåííîñòè, â ïîñåâå ìî÷è îáíàðóæåíû áàêòåðèè. Òåðàïåâò ïðîïèñàëà ôóðîäîíèí, íî
ïðè ýòîì íå îòâåòèëà íà âîïðîñ î áåçîïàñíîñòè ýòîãî ñðåäñòâà äëÿ ðåáåíêà.
Ñêàæèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà, ýòîò ïðåïàðàò íå âûçîâåò íèêàêèõ íåãàòèâíûõ ïîñëåäñòâèé?

ÎÒÂÅÒ: Ïðåïàðàòû íèòðîôóðàíîâîãî ðÿäà ïðîòèâîïîêàçàíû ïðè áåðåìåííîñòè, è ïðèíèìàòü åãî íè â êîåì ñëó÷àå íåëüçÿ. Ñëåäóåò ñäåëàòü ïîñåâ ìî÷è, ÷òîáû îïðåäåëèòü âèä ìèêðîôëîðû, à òàêæå åå ÷óâñòâèòåëüíîñòü ê àíòèáèîòèêàì, è ñðåäè ýòèõ ïðåïàðàòîâ âûáðàòü ñàìûé áåçîïàñíûé."

È ×ÒÎ ÄÅËÀÒÜ???!!!! ÊÎÌÓ ÂÅÐÈÒÜ??!! ÏÈÒÜ ÈËÈ ÍÅ ÏÈÒÜ?!
×åì áîëüøå ÷èòàþ è èíòåðåñóþñü- òåì áîëüøå ÿ â øîêå

ps Èçâèíèòå çà ôëåéì, ïðîñòî íàáîëåëî
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È â ïðîäîëæåíèå...

Âîò íàøëà òàáëè÷êó, ãäå ýòîò Ìàêðîáèä (íèòðîôóðàíòîèí) íàçâàí âîîáùå áåçîïàñíûì äëÿ ïðèìåíåíèÿ âî âðåìÿ áåðåìåííîñòè. [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]

È êîìó âåðèòü?!
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Ñòàðûé 18.07.2003, 10:06
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[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]

Òóò îí ïðîòèâîïîêàçàí àáñîëþòíî. Ëþäè, âðà÷è, ÷òî äåëàòü-òî?!
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 18.07.2003, 11:24
Àâàòàð äëÿ yakov
yakov yakov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
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Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 4 ðàç(à) çà 3 ñîîáùåíèé
yakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyakov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Íàäî ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ îôèöèàëüíîé èíñòðóêöèåé ïî ïðèìåíåíèþ ïðåïàðàòà (ñì, íàïðèìåð, [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]). Òàì ýòîò ïðåïàðàò ïðîòèâîïîêàçàí ïðè áåðåìåííîñòè. Âñå îñòàëüíîå - ÷àñòíûå ìíåíèÿ âðà÷åé, êîòîðûå íåñóò îòâåòñòâåííîñòü çà ñâîè ñëîâà.
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Ñòàðûé 18.07.2003, 11:38
Àâàòàð äëÿ Vladlen
Vladlen Vladlen âíå ôîðóìà
Ïîñòîÿííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
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Vladlen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVladlen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVladlen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVladlen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVladlen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVladlen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Âî âñåì öèâèëèçîâàííîì ìèðå â íàñòîÿùåå âðåìÿ Ìàêðîáèä (ôóðàíòîèí) îòíîñèòñÿ ê ëåêàðñòâàì êàòåãîðèè  (pregnancy category B). Ýòî îçíà÷àåò, ÷òî ïðèìåíåíèå åãî âî âðåìÿ áåðåìåííîñòè (êàê â ïåðâîì òðèìåñòðå, òàê è äàëåå) äîïóñòèìî. Ìîæíî èñïîëüçîâàòü ýòî ëåêàðñòâî è âî âðåìÿ ëàêòàöèè.
Îäíàêî, êàê ñïðàâåäëèâî îòìåòèë ïðåäûäóùèé àâòîð, åñëè â Ðîññèè îí çàïðåùåí ê ïðèìåíåíèþ âî âðåìÿ áåðåìåííîñòè, òî ðîññèéñêèé âðà÷ íå èìååò ïðàâà èì ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ.
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Ñòàðûé 18.07.2003, 13:21
V. ZAITSEV V. ZAITSEV âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
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V. ZAITSEV
Âî êàê, «êàê â ïåðâîì òðèìåñòðå, òàê è äàëåå »!
È îïÿòü ýòîò ïàôîñ ïî ïîâîäó «âñåãî öèâèëèçîâàííîãî ìèðà».
È íå â Ðîññèè, Bukycuk ïûòàþòñÿ ëå÷èòü, óâ. Vladlen.


Âîò êàêèå ðåçóëüòàòû äàë áåãëûé ïîèñê.

[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]

Contraindications: Anuria, oliguria, and clients with impaired renal function (CCR below 40 mL/min); pregnant women, especially near term; infants less than 1 month of age; and lactation.

[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
Contraindications
Anuria, oliguria, or significant impairment of renal function (creatinine clearance under 60 ml per minute or clinically significant elevated serum creatinine) are contraindications. Treatment of this type of patient carries an increased risk of toxicity because of impaired excretion of the drug.
Because of the possibility of hemolytic anemia due to immature erythrocyte enzyme systems (glutathione instability), the drug is contraindicated in pregnant patients at term (38-42 weeks gestation), during labor and delivery, or when the onset of labor is imminent. For the same reason, the drug is contraindicated in neonates under one month of age.

[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
4.3 Contraindications Nitrofurantoin is contraindicated in patients who are hypersensitive to the drug or to furan derivatives. It is also relatively contraindicated in renal impairment (creatinine clearance < 40 mL/minute), diabetes mellitus, electrolyte imbalance, vit.B deficiency as there is an increased risk of developing peripheral neuropathy in these situations (AFHS Drug Information, 1995; Reynolds, 1993; White et al., 1984). If it has to be used in these cases, extreme care should be taken and treatment stopped at the first sign of toxicity. Haemolysis frequently occurs in Glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase deficient patients who take nitrofurantoin. Discontinuation of the drug will often reverse this effect. Nitrofurantoin is contraindicated in pregnant women at term (38-42 weeks gestation) and it should not be administered during labour or just prior to labour to avoid precipitation of haemolytic anaemia in the neonate (AFHS Drug Information, 1995). There is a theoretical risk of nitrofurantoin-induced haemolytic anaemia in the newborn of mothers with G-6-PD deficiency (D'Arcy, 1985). Neonates are at high risk of haemolysis induced by nitrofurantoin due to their immature enzyme systems (New Ethicals Catalogue, 1996).
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #12  
Ñòàðûé 18.07.2003, 14:02
Àâàòàð äëÿ Vladlen
Vladlen Vladlen âíå ôîðóìà
Ïîñòîÿííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 25.05.2003
Ãîðîä: Israel
Ñîîáùåíèé: 413
Vladlen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVladlen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVladlen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVladlen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVladlen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVladlen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
"È ×ÒÎ ÄÅËÀÒÜ???!!!! ÊÎÌÓ ÂÅÐÈÒÜ??!! ÏÈÒÜ ÈËÈ ÍÅ ÏÈÒÜ?!" - óäèâèòåëüíî ðîññèéñêèå âîïðîñû.

Óâ. äîêòîð Çàéöåâ! Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, ìíå íå÷åãî äîáàâèòü ê óæå ñêàçàííîìó. Ýòî ëåêàðñòâî îòíîñèòñÿ ê pregnancy category B.
Ñ Âàìè îïÿòü çàáûëè ïîñîâåòîâàòüñÿ.
ß òîæå äóìàþ, ÷òî ýòî îøèáêà.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 18.07.2003, 19:20
V. ZAITSEV V. ZAITSEV âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
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Óâàæàåìûé Vladlen!
Ïîíà÷àëó ó ìåíÿ áûëè íåêîòîðûå ñîìíåíèÿ â Âàøåé ïðàâîòå.
Êàçàëîñü áû è ëå÷àò Bukycuk îò öèñòèòà, òàê æå êàê â ñâîå âðåìÿ îò èçëèøíå íîðìàëüíîãî DHEA-S, â öèâèëèçîâàííîì ìèðå. È èíôîðìàöèÿ ïî ïðîòèâîïîêàçàíèÿì, êîòîðóþ ÿ ïðèâåë, îòíþäü íå Ðîññèéñêîãî ïðîèñõîæäåíèÿ. È Âû íå ïðèâåëè íè îäíîé ññûëêè, ïîäòâåðæäàþùåé Âàøå àâòîðèòåòíåéøåå çàêëþ÷åíèå. Íî óâèäåâ íå óáèåííîå: «Ñ Âàìè çàáûëè ïîñîâåòîâàòüñÿ» - ïðîíèêñÿ ãëóáèíîé è äîêàçàòåëüíîñòüþ Âàøèõ äîâîäîâ.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 18.07.2003, 20:31
Zhivov Zhivov âíå ôîðóìà
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 20.08.2001
Ñîîáùåíèé: 3,792
Zhivov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåZhivov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåZhivov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåZhivov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåZhivov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåZhivov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåZhivov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåZhivov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåZhivov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåZhivov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåZhivov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ãëàâíîìó ñïåöèàëèñòó ïî öèñòèòàì íà Ðóñìåäñåðâåðå, Â.ß. Çàéöåâó

Âëàäèìèð ßêîâëåâè÷,
Èç Âàøèõ öèòàò ñîâåðøåííî ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî íèòðîôóðàíòîèí (îí æå Ôóðàäîíèí) ïðîòèâîïîêàçàí áåðåìåííûì òîëüêî ïåðåä ðîäàìè (òåîðåòè÷åñêè ìîæåò âûçâàòü àíåìèþ íîâîðîæäåííûõ) è óæ íèêàê íå ïðè ñðîêå 7 íåäåëü. Ïðåïàðàò îòíîñèòñÿ ê ñðåäñòâàì ïåðâîãî âûáîðà â ëå÷åíèè èíôåêöèé ìî÷åâûõ ïóòåé (ÈÌÏ) è â ÷àñòíîñòè öèñòèòà ó áåðåìåííûõ (Jerome Yankowitz (editor): Drug therapy in Pregnancy, Third edition, Lippincott, 2001). Ê ïðåïàðàòàì ïåðâîãî âûáîðà â ëå÷åíèè ÈÌÏ áåðåìåííûõ îòíîñÿòñÿ â ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü ïîëóñèíòåòè÷åñêèå ïåíèöèëëèíû (àìïèöèëëèí, àìîêñèöèëëèí, àìîêñèöèëëèí-êëàâóëàíàò) è öåôàëîñïîðèíû âñåõ ïîêîëåíèé. Òàê ÷òî Bukycuk Âû àáñîëþòíî ñïîêîéíî ìîæåòå ïðèíèìàòü àìîêñèêëàâ ïî 375 ìã ÷åðåç 8 ÷àñîâ - 3-5 äíåé è Âû î÷åíü áûñòðî èçáàâèòåñü îò öèñòèòà.

Íó à Âû, Âëàäèìèð ßêîâëåâè÷, íå ÿâëÿÿÿñü âðà÷îì, âñå æå ëó÷øå áû êîíñóëüòèðîâàëè íà ôîðóìå ïî ìèëîé âàøåìó ñåðäöó îçîíîòåðàïèè. Âàì ïðîñòî íå ýòè÷íî äàâàòü ìåäèöèíñêèå ñîâåòû íå áóäó÷è ñïåöèàëèñòîì. À çàáûë, âåäü â öèñòèòàõ Âû îáùåèçâåñòíûé ðóñìåäñåðâîâñêèé "ýêñïåðò".

Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #15  
Ñòàðûé 18.07.2003, 20:58
V. ZAITSEV V. ZAITSEV âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
çàáàíåí
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 25.07.2001
Ñîîáùåíèé: 3,330
V. ZAITSEV
Àëåêñåé Âèêòîðîâè÷!
Âû â ñâîåì ðåïåðòóàðå. Êàê Âû òàì òðàêòîâàëè èíòåëëèãåíòíîñòü? Âàøà âèäíà íåâîîðóæåííûì ãëàçîì.
Àëåêñåé Âèêòîðîâè÷!
ß, â îòëè÷èå îò Âàñ, áûë ñâÿçàí ñ ðàçðàáîòêîé è ýêñïåðèìåíòàëüíîé ïðîâåðêîé ìåäèêàìåíòîçíûõ ïðåïàðàòîâ, è èìåþ íåêîòîðîå ïðåäñòàâëåíèå «î ñêðûòûõ ïîäâîäíûõ òå÷åíèÿõ â ýòîé îáëàñòè» íå òîëüêî ïî öèòàòàì èç ñòàíäàðòîâ ñ êíèæíîé ïîëêè.
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