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Îïöèè òåìû Ïîèñê â ýòîé òåìå Îïöèè ïðîñìîòðà
  #61  
Ñòàðûé 18.10.2005, 11:22
Àâàòàð äëÿ Alon
Alon Alon âíå ôîðóìà
Çàñëóæåííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 17.08.2004
Ãîðîä: Israel
Ñîîáùåíèé: 719
Alon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò ivkoko
Îòäåëüíûì ïàöèåíòàì ãîìåîïàòèÿ îòëè÷íî ïîìîãàåò.
Åñëè Âû â Àìåðèêà æèâ¸òå, çíà÷èò ÷èòàåòå ðàçíûå íàó÷íûå æóðíàëû. Ïî äàííûì ó÷¸íûõ ýôôåêòèâíîñòü ïëàöåáî äîõîäèò äî 30%.
 ñðàâíåíèè ñ ÷åì?
  #62  
Ñòàðûé 18.10.2005, 11:49
ivkoko ivkoko âíå ôîðóìà
Çàñëóæåííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 28.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà Ðîññèÿ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 999
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33 ðàç(à) çà 33 ñîîáùåíèé
ivkoko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåivkoko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåivkoko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåivkoko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
 ñðàâíåíèè ñ ëåêàðñòâåííûìè ñðåäñòâàìè.
  #63  
Ñòàðûé 18.10.2005, 11:59
Àâàòàð äëÿ Alon
Alon Alon âíå ôîðóìà
Çàñëóæåííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 17.08.2004
Ãîðîä: Israel
Ñîîáùåíèé: 719
Alon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò ivkoko
 ñðàâíåíèè ñ ëåêàðñòâåííûìè ñðåäñòâàìè.
íàïðèìåð?
  #64  
Ñòàðûé 18.10.2005, 13:26
Àâàòàð äëÿ YuriTop
YuriTop YuriTop âíå ôîðóìà
Çàñëóæåííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 25.12.2002
Ãîðîä: Yekaterinburg
Ñîîáùåíèé: 808
YuriTop ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYuriTop ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYuriTop ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYuriTop ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYuriTop ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYuriTop ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYuriTop ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYuriTop ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYuriTop ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåYuriTop ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ðåïëèêà!

Ïîêà íå èìåþ íè âðåìåíè íè âîçìîæíîñòè ó÷àñòâîâàòü â äèñêóññèè (ãîòîâëþñü ê ãåíîäèàãíîñòèêå 2005), îäíàêî êîå -êòî ïåðåãèáàåò ïàëêó â "ïðàâåäíîì ãíåâå"
Öèòàòà:
Ïåäèàòðû î÷åíü íóæíû, íî íå òå, êîòîðûå íàçíà÷àþò äåòÿì èììóíoìîäóëÿòîðû ïðè ïðîñòóäàõ.
ßíà, à ÈÐÑ-19? Ýòî òîæå èìóíîìîäóëÿòîð. Õîòü åãî ôèðìà è íàçûâàåò "âàêöèíîé". Ïî ñóòè äåéñòâèÿ ñàìûé íàñòîÿùèé. È ñòàòåé ïî äîêàçàííîé ýôôåêòèâíîñòè ñ ÐÊÈ åñòü ìíîæåñòâî. À èìóäîí (îòëè÷íûé âåäü ïðåïàðàò)
Äàâàéòå íå áóäåì âñå îáîáùàòü à? Îïÿòü ñ âîäîé âûïëåñêèâàåì ðåáåíêà.
  #65  
Ñòàðûé 18.10.2005, 18:09
E.E. Studentsov E.E. Studentsov âíå ôîðóìà
Çàñëóæåííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 29.06.2003
Ãîðîä: New York, USA
Ñîîáùåíèé: 834
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 2
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 6 ðàç(à) çà 4 ñîîáùåíèé
E.E. Studentsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåE.E. Studentsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåE.E. Studentsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåE.E. Studentsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåE.E. Studentsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåE.E. Studentsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåE.E. Studentsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåE.E. Studentsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåE.E. Studentsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåE.E. Studentsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåE.E. Studentsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
O kak!

 Íîâîñèáèðñêå íà÷íåòñÿ ïðîèçâîäñòâî ýôôåêòèâíîãî è íåäîðîãîãî àíòè-ÂÈ× ïðåïàðàòà.

 Íîâîñèáèðñêå â òå÷åíèå ãîäà áóäåò íà÷àòî ïðîìûøëåííîå ïðîèçâîäñòâî íîâîãî îòå÷åñòâåííîãî âûñîêîýôôåêòèâíîãî àíòè-ÂÈ× ïðåïàðàòà, ðàçðàáîòàííîãî â Ãîñóäàðñòâåííîì íàó÷íîì öåíòðå âèðóñîëîãè è áèîòåõíîëîãèè (ÃÍÖ ÂÁ) "Âåêòîð".

Îá ýòîì âî âòîðíèê ñîîáùèë æóðíàëèñòàì çàâåäóþùèé îòäåëîì õèìèè ïðèðîäíûõ è áèîëîãè÷åñêè àêòèâíûõ ñîåäèíåíèé Íîâîñèáèðñêîãî èíñòèòóòà îðãàíè÷åñêîé õèìèè ÑÎ ÐÀÍ Íàðèìàí Ñàëàõóòäèíîâ, ïåðåäàåò ÐÈÀ "Íîâîñòè".

Ãîäîâîé êóðñ ëå÷åíèÿ ýòèì ïðåïàðàòîì áóäåò ñòîèòü îò $300-600, ðàññêàçàë â ñâîþ î÷åðåäü çàâåäóþùèé ëàáîðàòîðèåé ðåòðîâèðóñîâ ÃÍÖ ÂÁ "Âåêòîð" Àíäðåé Ïîêðîâñêèé.

" íàñòîÿùåå âðåìÿ óæå çàâåðøåíû äîêëèíè÷åñêèå èñïûòàíèÿ ïðåïàðàòà, åãî ñïåöèôè÷åñêàÿ àêòèâíîñòü ïîäòâåðæäåíà â ðÿäå çàðóáåæíûõ ëàáîðàòîðèé. Êëèíè÷åñêèå èñïûòàíèÿ ïðîéäóò â ïåðâîì è âòîðîì êâàðòàëå ñëåäóþùåãî ãîäà", - äîáàâèë Ïîêðîâñêèé.
  #66  
Ñòàðûé 18.10.2005, 18:26
Àâàòàð äëÿ yananshs
yananshs yananshs âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë æåíñêèé
çàáàíåí
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 25.02.2003
Ãîðîä: NY
Ñîîáùåíèé: 9,664
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 15
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 56 ðàç(à) çà 51 ñîîáùåíèé
yananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò YuriTop
ßíà, à ÈÐÑ-19?
Óâàæàåìûé Þðèé,
Ïîèñê â Pubmed ïî çàïðîñó IRS19, clinical trials, human:

1: Volgin AR, Demina IuV.
[Experience of using bacterial lysate IRS 19 for the prophylaxis of the diseases of respiratory organs in organized groups]
Zh Mikrobiol Epidemiol Immunobiol. 2005 May-Jun;(3):82-4. Russian.
PMID: 16028523

2: Gunchikov MV, Vinnikov AK.
[Immune preparation IRS-19 in the treatment of inflammation in the upper respiratory tracts]
Vestn Otorinolaringol. 2001;(1):40. Russian. No abstract available.
PMID: 11247247

3: Luchikhin LA, Beliakova LV, Gurov AV.
[Prevention and treatment of upper respiratory tract infections with IRS-19 and polydex with phenylephrine]
Vestn Otorinolaringol. 2000;(4):54-7. Russian. No abstract available.
PMID: 11011582

4: Nowak D, Prozynski M, Pietras T, Stolarek R, Mazerant P, Leder M.
Effect of bacterial extract, IRS-19, on the concentration of hydrogen peroxide and myeloperoxidase activity in nasal washings of patients with chronic bronchitis.
Arch Immunol Ther Exp (Warsz). 1997;45(1):67-72.
PMID: 9090443

5: Kaspar P, Petro W.
[Inhalative immunostimulation in patients with chronic bronchitis]
Z Hautkr. 1988;63 Suppl 4:64-6. German.
PMID: 3075383 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Ñòàòüè â ðóññêèõ è ïîëüñêèõ æóðíàëàõ. Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, ó ìåíÿ íåò âîçìîæíîñòè èõ ïðî÷èòàòü. Íåìåöêàÿ ñòàòüÿ îïóáëèêîâàíà â 1988 ãîäó.
  #67  
Ñòàðûé 18.10.2005, 20:29
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko íà ôîðóìå
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,476
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,694 ðàç(à) çà 32,767 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
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  #68  
Ñòàðûé 18.10.2005, 22:23
Àâàòàð äëÿ Lord Vader
Lord Vader Lord Vader âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
çàáàíåí
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 18.10.2005
Ãîðîä: Äàëåêàÿ ãàëàêòèêà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 188
Lord Vader ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò îòâðàòèòåëüíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò E.E. Studentsov
 Íîâîñèáèðñêå íà÷íåòñÿ ïðîèçâîäñòâî ýôôåêòèâíîãî è íåäîðîãîãî àíòè-ÂÈ× ïðåïàðàòà.

 Íîâîñèáèðñêå â òå÷åíèå ãîäà áóäåò íà÷àòî ïðîìûøëåííîå ïðîèçâîäñòâî íîâîãî îòå÷åñòâåííîãî âûñîêîýôôåêòèâíîãî àíòè-ÂÈ× ïðåïàðàòà, ðàçðàáîòàííîãî â Ãîñóäàðñòâåííîì íàó÷íîì öåíòðå âèðóñîëîãè è áèîòåõíîëîãèè (ÃÍÖ ÂÁ) "Âåêòîð".

Îá ýòîì âî âòîðíèê ñîîáùèë æóðíàëèñòàì çàâåäóþùèé îòäåëîì õèìèè ïðèðîäíûõ è áèîëîãè÷åñêè àêòèâíûõ ñîåäèíåíèé Íîâîñèáèðñêîãî èíñòèòóòà îðãàíè÷åñêîé õèìèè ÑÎ ÐÀÍ Íàðèìàí Ñàëàõóòäèíîâ, ïåðåäàåò ÐÈÀ "Íîâîñòè".

Ãîäîâîé êóðñ ëå÷åíèÿ ýòèì ïðåïàðàòîì áóäåò ñòîèòü îò $300-600, ðàññêàçàë â ñâîþ î÷åðåäü çàâåäóþùèé ëàáîðàòîðèåé ðåòðîâèðóñîâ ÃÍÖ ÂÁ "Âåêòîð" Àíäðåé Ïîêðîâñêèé.

" íàñòîÿùåå âðåìÿ óæå çàâåðøåíû äîêëèíè÷åñêèå èñïûòàíèÿ ïðåïàðàòà, åãî ñïåöèôè÷åñêàÿ àêòèâíîñòü ïîäòâåðæäåíà â ðÿäå çàðóáåæíûõ ëàáîðàòîðèé. Êëèíè÷åñêèå èñïûòàíèÿ ïðîéäóò â ïåðâîì è âòîðîì êâàðòàëå ñëåäóþùåãî ãîäà", - äîáàâèë Ïîêðîâñêèé.
Âèäèìî î÷åðåäíîå èç ýòîé ñåðèè

[Èçîáðàæåíèÿ äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì]

ßäîâèòîå, õèìè÷åñêîå âåùåñòâî ñìåðòåëüíîé îïàñíîñòè – ïðåäóïðåæäåíèå êîìïàíèè «Ñèãìà Êåìèêàë Èíê» (Sigma Chemical Co.) íà êðîøå÷íîì 25 ìã ïóçûðüêå AÇT, ïîñòàâëÿåìîãî â íàó÷íî-èññëåäîâàòåëüñêèå ëàáîðàòîðèè. Âû î÷åâèäíî íå íàéäåòå ïîäîáíîãî ñîâåòà íà ÿðëûêå AÇT, êîòîðûé ïðîèçâîäèò "Ãëàêñî Ñìèò Êëÿéí" èëè â åãî ðåêîìåíäàöèè, ãäå åæåäíåâíàÿ äîçà óïîòðåáëåíèÿ â øåñòüäåñÿò ðàç âûøå.

[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
yananshs íå îäîáðèë(à):
Dr. íå îäîáðèë(à): ê òåìíîé ñòîðîíå ýòî âåäåò
  #69  
Ñòàðûé 18.10.2005, 22:54
Àâàòàð äëÿ yananshs
yananshs yananshs âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë æåíñêèé
çàáàíåí
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 25.02.2003
Ãîðîä: NY
Ñîîáùåíèé: 9,664
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 15
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 56 ðàç(à) çà 51 ñîîáùåíèé
yananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ïðîñòèòå, íàâåðíîå çðÿ íå îäîáðèëà. Ìíå ïîêàçàëîñü, ÷òî Âû - ÑÏÈÄ-äèññèäåíò è ðàçäåëÿåòå ìíåíèå Ñàçîíîâîé.
Íàäåþñü, ÷òî àäìèíèñòðàöèÿ ñóìååò èñïðàâèòü ìîþ îøèáêó.
  #70  
Ñòàðûé 18.10.2005, 23:09
E.E. Studentsov E.E. Studentsov âíå ôîðóìà
Çàñëóæåííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 29.06.2003
Ãîðîä: New York, USA
Ñîîáùåíèé: 834
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 2
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 6 ðàç(à) çà 4 ñîîáùåíèé
E.E. Studentsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåE.E. Studentsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåE.E. Studentsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåE.E. Studentsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåE.E. Studentsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåE.E. Studentsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåE.E. Studentsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåE.E. Studentsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåE.E. Studentsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåE.E. Studentsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåE.E. Studentsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
ß òîæå ñâÿçè ìåæäó ñîîáùåíèÿìè íå óâèäåë.
  #71  
Ñòàðûé 19.10.2005, 01:17
V. ZAITSEV V. ZAITSEV âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
çàáàíåí
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 25.07.2001
Ñîîáùåíèé: 3,330
V. ZAITSEV
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Melnichenko
Âñå- òàêè èìååòñÿ êàêîé-òî ëîãè÷åñêèé ïàðàäîêñ- êîãäà ãîâîðèòñÿ î âîçìîæíîñòè íåìåäèêàìåíòîçíîãî âîçäåéñòâèÿ íà òîò ñàìûé ïðåñëîâóòûé îðãàíèçì- ñîëíöå, âîçäóõ, çàêàëèâàíèå, ðàçóìíîå ïèòàíèå êàê ïðîôèëàêòèêå ÷àñòûõ ïðîñòóä,
Ãàëèíà Àôàíàñüåâíà!
Ïî÷åìó îðãàíèçì «ïðåñëîâóòûé»? È ïîòîì, âåäü ñîëíöå, âîçäóõ, çàêàëèâàíèå – ÍÅ ÄÎÊÀÇÀÍÎ! Êàê òóò íà ôîðóìå âûðàçèëèñü ñàíêóðëå÷åíèå – õîðîøåå ïëàöåáî.
  #72  
Ñòàðûé 19.10.2005, 03:48
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dobro
Dobro Dobro âíå ôîðóìà
çàáàíåí
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 25.09.2003
Ñîîáùåíèé: 466
Dobro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDobro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDobro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDobro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDobro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDobro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDobro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDobro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDobro ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
  #73  
Ñòàðûé 19.10.2005, 09:30
ñèäîðêèíà ñèäîðêèíà âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë æåíñêèé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.10.2005
Ãîðîä: ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 26
ñèäîðêèíà *
Ãåðïåòè÷åñêèé öåíòð ìåíÿ ëè÷íî ãîìåîïàòèåé íå ëå÷èë. Ñìûñë òàì òàêîé - ñïåðâà àíàëèçû íà âñå èíôåêöèè, ïîòîì èììóíîãðàììà. Äàëåå ïî èììóíîãðàììå íàçíà÷àþò èììóíîìîäóëÿòîð. Àöèêëîâèð æå ðåêîìåíäóþò ïèòü òîëüêî òîãäà, êîãäà ïóçûðüêè ïîÿâëÿþòñÿ(òàê êàê ÿ ìîãó ñïóòàòü ñèìïòîìû è âûïèòü àöèêëîâèð íå ïî äåëó). Ìîå ìíåíèå æå, ÷òî ÿ áåçîøèáî÷íî çíàþ ÷òî áóäåò ðåöèäèâ(íàäåæäû íà òî ÷òî ìåíÿ ãëþ÷èò, íèêîãäà íå îïðàâäûâàþòñÿ, íå ñìîòðÿ íè íà êàêèå ïëàöåáî-âíóøåíèÿ). Íè÷åãî òîëêîì íå ðàçúÿñíÿþò, ñòàâÿò ïå÷àòü â êàðòå è ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî ïèòü ñïèðòíîå+áåðåìåíåòü íåëüçÿ, ÿ äîëæíà ðàñïèñàòüñÿ íà ïå÷àòè, ÷òî ïèòü è áåðåìåíåòü íå áóäó. Ñëåäóþùèé ïðèåì ÷åðåç ìåñÿö-äâà. Ñíîâà èììóíîãðàììû, è íîâûå èììóíîìîäóëÿòîðû. Ñíîâà ðîñïèñü. Ïîòîì îïðåäåëåíèå òèðîâ ê ãåðïåñó. Òèòðû íèçêèå – íàçíà÷åí èììóíîãëîáóëèí. Äîïîëíèòåëüíî ïðîëå÷èâàþòñÿ ñîïóòñòâóþùèå èíôåêöèè. Ãäå-òî ÷åðåç ãîä ÿ çàìåòèëà, ÷òî ðàñïèñûâàëàñü íà ïå÷àòè íå çà òî ÷òî ÿ ïèòü è áåðåìåíåòü íå áóäó, à çà òî ÷òî ÿ îçíàêîìëåíà ñ ïëàíîì ëå÷åíèÿ. Íå ïîäóìàéòå ÷òî ÿ ÷èòàòü íå óìåþ, ïðîñòî ó ìîåãî ëå÷àùåãî âðà÷à, ïå÷àòü íå ïðîïå÷àòûâàëàñü. Ñ ïëàíîì ëå÷åíèÿ ìåíÿ íèêòî íèêîãäà íå çíàêîìèë. À ïîòîì îíè ñãîðåëè âìåñòå ñ ïëàíàìè ëå÷åíèÿ, çàïèñàííûìè äîêòîðîì â êàðòå. Âîò òàêèå äåëà, ðåöèäèâû êàê áûëè , òàê è îñòàëèñü, õîðîøî ÷òî áîëüøå íå ñòàëî. Îáùàÿñü ïî íåòó, è òàêîå ïðèõîäèëîñü ÷èòàòü(ðåöèäèâû ñòàëè ïîñòîÿííûìè). Äåíåã è âðåìåíè íà ýòî ëå÷åíèå ïîòðà÷åíî íåìåðåííî. Íî ÿ âîò òîëüêî ñåé÷àñ çàäóìàëàñü, ÷òî íèêòî è íèêîãäà íå íàïèñàë íà ãåðïåñ.ðó – «Ìåíÿ âûëå÷èëè â ãåðïåòè÷åñêîì öåíòðå».
  #74  
Ñòàðûé 19.10.2005, 10:27
Àâàòàð äëÿ Lord Vader
Lord Vader Lord Vader âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
çàáàíåí
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 18.10.2005
Ãîðîä: Äàëåêàÿ ãàëàêòèêà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 188
Lord Vader ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò îòâðàòèòåëüíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò ñèäîðêèíà
Ñíîâà èììóíîãðàììû, è íîâûå èììóíîìîäóëÿòîðû
Ðåêîìåíäàöèè ÂÎÇ (2003)

TREATMENT OPTIONS FOR GENITAL HERPES

Recommended regimen for fi rst clinical episode

acyclovir, 200 mg orally, 5 times daily for 7 days
OR
acyclovir, 400 mg orally, 3 times daily for 7 days
OR
valaciclovir, 1 g orally, twice daily for 7 days
OR
famciclovir, 250 mg orally, 3 times daily for 7 days

Recommended regimen for recurrent infection

acyclovir, 200 mg orally, 5 times daily for 5 days
OR
acyclovir, 400 mg orally, 3 times daily for 5 days
OR
acyclovir, 800 mg orally, twice daily for 5 days
OR
valaciclovir, 500 mg orally, twice daily for 5 days
OR
valaciclovir, 1000 mg orally, once daily for 5 days
OR
famciclovir, 125 mg orally, twice daily for 5 days

Recommended regimen for suppressive therapy

acyclovir, 400 mg orally, twice daily, continuously
OR
valaciclovir, 500 mg orally, once daily
OR
valaciclovir, 1000 mg orally, once daily
OR
famciclovir, 250 mg orally, twice daily

Note
Some experts recommend discontinuing acyclovir after one year of continuous use so that the recurrence rate can be reassessed. The lowest continuous dose that will suppress recurrences in an individual can only be determined empirically.

Recommended regimen for severe disease

acyclovir, 5–10 mg/kg IV, every 8 hours for 5–7 days or until clinical resolution is attained

Recommended regimen in severe herpes simplex lesions with coinfection with HIV

acyclovir, 400 mg orally, 3–5 times daily until clinical resolution is attained

Recommended regimen for neonates

acyclovir, 10 mg/kg intravenously, 3 times a day for 10–21 days

È ÍÈÊÀÊÈÕ ÈÌÌÓÍÎÌÎÄÓËßÒÎÐÎÂ

Ñïåöèàëüíî äëÿ jedi ââñ

[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
  #75  
Ñòàðûé 19.10.2005, 10:39
Àâàòàð äëÿ Alon
Alon Alon âíå ôîðóìà
Çàñëóæåííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 17.08.2004
Ãîðîä: Israel
Ñîîáùåíèé: 719
Alon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAlon ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ïîõîæå, â íàøåé áîëüíèöå ïîðà îòêðûòü ïàëàòó ëîðäîâ.
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