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Ðàçíîå Ëþáûå ñîîáùåíèÿ íà ìåäèöèíñêèå òåìû, ïî êîòîðûì íåò îòäåëüíûõ ôîðóìîâ. Ôîðóì: ×àñòíàÿ ïðàêòèêà.

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Îïöèè òåìû Ïîèñê â ýòîé òåìå Îïöèè ïðîñìîòðà
  #121  
Ñòàðûé 05.10.2009, 07:20
aberzoy aberzoy âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 03.02.2003
Ãîðîä: Îäåññà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5,681
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,128 ðàç(à) çà 1,080 ñîîáùåíèé
aberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Well done!
Òàêè äà, ëó÷øå è íå ñêàæåøü!
Åù¸ ðàç ñïàñèáî.

ÇÛ Ïðîäîëæåíèå ñëåäóåò ;-)
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #122  
Ñòàðûé 08.10.2009, 20:57
aberzoy aberzoy âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 03.02.2003
Ãîðîä: Îäåññà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5,681
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,128 ðàç(à) çà 1,080 ñîîáùåíèé
aberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Äîáðûé âå÷åð "íåñïÿùèì"!
(ÿ â÷åðà ñ 19 äî 7-30 ñåãîäíÿ óìóäðèëñÿ

Èòàê:

Model-based period analysis

"ìîäåëèðóåìûé àíàëèç ïîñëåäîâàòåëíîñòåé"?

"àíàëèç ïîñëåäîâàòåëüíîñòåé íà ìîäåëè"?

Âîò îáîðîò
In a previous evaluation, it was shown that model-based period
analysis, on incorporating long-term survival trends into the
modelling of period relative survival estimates, enabled
a reliable projection of survival estimates into the near future


calendar period-specific life tables ?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #123  
Ñòàðûé 02.11.2009, 15:52
Àâàòàð äëÿ Sereda Andrey
Sereda Andrey Sereda Andrey âíå ôîðóìà
òðàâìàòîëîã-îðòîïåä
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 04.04.2006
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5,322
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,242 ðàç(à) çà 1,140 ñîîáùåíèé
Sereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Êîëëåãè, ÷òî òàêîå adjusted hazard ratio?
Ñïàñèáî.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #124  
Ñòàðûé 02.11.2009, 16:28
Vlad34 Vlad34 âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 31.10.2008
Ãîðîä: Âîðîíåæ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7,362
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 518 ðàç(à) çà 480 ñîîáùåíèé
Vlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ýòî òàê è åñòü èëè ïåðåä adjusted ÷òî òî åùå? Ïðîñòî êàê âàðèàíò:multivariate-adjusted relative risk - îòíîñèòåëüíûé ðèñê, (ðàññ÷èòàííûé) ñ ó÷åòîì ìíîãèõ ôàêòîðîâ èëè ìíîãîôàêòîðíûé ðèñê. Èëè îòíîñèòåëüíûé ðèñê ñêîððåêòèðîâàííûé ïî...
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  #125  
Ñòàðûé 02.11.2009, 16:42
Àâàòàð äëÿ Sereda Andrey
Sereda Andrey Sereda Andrey âíå ôîðóìà
òðàâìàòîëîã-îðòîïåä
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 04.04.2006
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5,322
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,242 ðàç(à) çà 1,140 ñîîáùåíèé
Sereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ñïàñèáî. Íåò, ïåðåä adjusted ñëîâ íåò. À hazard ratio ðàçâå èäåíòè÷åí relative risk? Âèêèïïåäèÿ äàåò òðàêòîâêó õàçàðä ðåéòèî â êîíòåêñòå âûæèâàåìîñòè,à â òåêñòå ñòàòüè êàê ðàç êðèâûå Êàïëàíà - Ìåéåðà ïðèñóòñòâóþò...
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  #126  
Ñòàðûé 02.11.2009, 16:50
Vlad34 Vlad34 âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 31.10.2008
Ãîðîä: Âîðîíåæ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7,362
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 518 ðàç(à) çà 480 ñîîáùåíèé
Vlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Âðîäå ýòî è åñòü îòíîñèòåëüíûé ðèñê â àíàëèçå âûæèâàåìîñòè
Öèòàòà:
Hazard ratio - HR - (Îòíîøåíèå ðèñêîâ - ÎÐ) – îòíîñèòåëüíûé ðèñê, ðàññ÷èòàííûé äëÿ êðèâûõ âûæèâàíèÿ.
Íàøåë òóò [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #127  
Ñòàðûé 02.11.2009, 17:06
Àâàòàð äëÿ Sereda Andrey
Sereda Andrey Sereda Andrey âíå ôîðóìà
òðàâìàòîëîã-îðòîïåä
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 04.04.2006
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5,322
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,242 ðàç(à) çà 1,140 ñîîáùåíèé
Sereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ñïàñèáî, ñòàëî ÿñíåå.
"Relative risk - (Îòíîñèòåëüíûé ðèñê – ÎÐ) – îòíîøåíèå ÷àñòîòû èçó÷àåìîãî èñõîäà â ãðóïïå âìåøàòåëüñòâà ê åãî ÷àñòîòå â ãðóïïå êîíòðîëÿ. ÎÐ ðàâåí ÷àñòîòå èñõîäîâ â ãðóïïå âìåøàòåëüñòâà äåëåííîé íà ÷àñòîòó èñõîäîâ â ãðóïïå êîíòðîëÿ. Çíà÷åíèå ÎÐ îò 0 äî 1 ñîîòâåòñòâóåò ñíèæåíèþ ðèñêà, áîëåå 1 - åãî óâåëè÷åíèþ. ÎÐ ðàâíûé 1 îçíà÷àåò îòñóòñòâèå ýôôåêòà. Èñïîëüçóåòñÿ â ðàíäîìèçèðîâàííûõ êîíòðîëèðóåìûõ èñïûòàíèÿõ è êîãîðòíûõ èññëåäîâàíèÿõ."
Ñóòü îòíîñèòåëüíîãî ðèñêà â ñðàâíèòåëüíûõ èññëåäîâàíèÿõ ïîíÿòíà.
Îäíàêî, ÷òî áåðåòñÿ çà 1 RR â èññëåäîâàíèÿõ áåç ãðóïïû êîíòðîëÿ?
Âîò, íàïðèìåð, àíàëèç ðèñêîâ èíôåêöèè ïî äàííûì Ôèíñêîãî ðåãèñòðà ýíäîïðîòåçèðîâàíèÿ êðóïíûõ ñóñòàâàõ. Ïî÷òè âî âñåõ ðóáðèêàõ çà 1 áåðåòñÿ íàèìåíüøèé ðèñê èëè ïîêàçàòåëü, ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèé çíà÷èòåëüíî áîëüøåìó ÷èñëó íàáëþäåíèé, íî íå âñåãäà.
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #128  
Ñòàðûé 02.11.2009, 17:25
Vlad34 Vlad34 âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 31.10.2008
Ãîðîä: Âîðîíåæ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7,362
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 518 ðàç(à) çà 480 ñîîáùåíèé
Vlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Óïñ... Ñ ýòèì ê LupusDoc'ó íå èíà÷å
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An ideal comparison occurs when two compared groups are identical
in all respects except for one specific variable. Then, logically, any difference
observed between the groups is due to that single variable. Assigning
individuals at random to one group that receives a treatment and to
another that does not receive the treatment (randomization) is an attempt
to approximate this ideal comparison. In this case, the groups are not
identical but likely balanced with respect to all variables other than the
treatment.
The comparison of human survival between nonrandomized groups, however,
is frequently far from this ideal. The groups compared typically differ in
anumber of respects, making it difficult (at best) to attribute observed differences
to a single influence (not balanced). An additive model is designed to
produce statistical comparisons as if the compared groups were “identical”
for all but one variable. Each estimated regression coefficient indicates the
influence of a single variable as if the other k – 1 variables were balanced
between the compared groups, leading to an easily interpreted measure of
association. Of course, the imbalances caused by other variables are only
“equalized” when they are measured and included in the model. Of equal
importance, the model must accurately represent the relationships within the
collected data. When randomization is not possible, frequently the situation
in the study of human mortality and disease, an additive model provides an
opportunity to interpret comparisons between variables as if the groups had
been formed by randomization.

[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
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Ñòàðûé 02.11.2009, 21:08
Àâàòàð äëÿ Gilarov
Gilarov Gilarov âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
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Gilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåGilarov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
 Âàøåé òàáëèöå, óâàæàåìûé Àíäðåé â êà÷åñòâå ãðóïïû ñðàâíåíèÿ âûñòóïàåò ãðóïïà ñ íåêèì ôàêòîðîì: ñ ïîñòîïåðàöèîííûìè îñëîæíåíèÿìè ïî îòíîøåíèþ ê ãðóïïå áåç íèõ, äðóãèå ãîñïèòàëÿ è óíèâåðñèòåòñêèé ãîñïèòàëü è ò. ï. Adjusted - ýòî ñêîððåêòèðîâàííûé (íà äðóãèå ôàêòîðû - ïîë, âîçðàñò è ò. ï.).
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Ñòàðûé 15.11.2009, 23:27
Àâàòàð äëÿ Sereda Andrey
Sereda Andrey Sereda Andrey âíå ôîðóìà
òðàâìàòîëîã-îðòîïåä
      
 
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Sereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Óâàæàåìûå êîëëåãè!
Although male sex also was associated with an increased rate of reoperations for the treatment of infection, the conflicting results of earlier studies
[3,4,7,13] suggest that sex differences likely function as a proxy for some risk factors.
Ìîæíî ëè ïåðåâåñòè:
ìóæñêîé ïîë âåðîÿòíî âûñòóïàåò â êà÷åñòâå "ïðîêñè"-ôàêòîðà ðèñêà, à íå êàê ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíûé ôàêòîð.
Èëè öåëåñîîáðàçíî èñïîëüçîâàòü êàêîé-íèáóäü ñèíîíèì? Êàêîé? Ñïàñèáî.
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ß áû ïåðåâåë òàê:

The conflicting results of earlier studies [3,4,7,13] suggest that sex differences likely function as a proxy for some risk factors.

Ïðîòèâîðå÷èâûå ðåçóëüòàòû ïðåäûäóùèõ (ðàííèõ) èññëåäîâàíèé çàñòàâëÿþò ïðåäïîëîæèòü, ÷òî ðàçëè÷èÿ ïî ïîëó âûñòóïàþò â ðîëè èíäèêàòîðîâ, òåñíî ñâÿçàííûõ ñ íåêèìè ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíûìè ôàêòîðàìè ðèñêà.
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Ñòàðûé 05.12.2009, 22:36
Àâàòàð äëÿ Sereda Andrey
Sereda Andrey Sereda Andrey âíå ôîðóìà
òðàâìàòîëîã-îðòîïåä
      
 
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Sereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSereda Andrey ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Óâàæàåìûå êîëëåãè!
Êàê ïåðåâåñòè "test-retest" ïðîöåäóðó ïðèìåíèòåëüíî ê âàëèäèçàöèè øêàëû?
Èëè ìû ìîæåì â äèññåðå òàê è íàïèñàòü - âûïîëíåí òåñò-ðèòåñò (ñ ðàçíûìè áàëëüíûìè îöåíêàìè ïàðàìåòðà)?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 05.12.2009, 23:55
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Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
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Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Sereda Andrey Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Óâàæàåìûå êîëëåãè!
Êàê ïåðåâåñòè "test-retest" ïðîöåäóðó ïðèìåíèòåëüíî ê âàëèäèçàöèè øêàëû?
Èëè ìû ìîæåì â äèññåðå òàê è íàïèñàòü - âûïîëíåí òåñò-ðèòåñò (ñ ðàçíûìè áàëëüíûìè îöåíêàìè ïàðàìåòðà)?
Ýòî îöåíêà âîñïðîèçâîäèìîñòè?
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aberzoy aberzoy âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
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aberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåaberzoy ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Sereda Andrey Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
sex differences likely function as a proxy for some risk factors.
"ïîë ïàöèåíòà ÿâëÿåòñÿ ñïåöèôè÷åñêèì (îáùèì/îáúåäèíÿþùèì) óñëîâèåì äëÿ ðÿäà îòäåëüíûõ/íåñâÿçàíûõ ôàêòîðîâ ðèñêà".

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