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Âîïðîñû î âàêöèíàöèè Âîïðîñû çàäàþòñÿ â ýòîì ðàçäåëå!

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Îïöèè òåìû Ïîèñê â ýòîé òåìå Îïöèè ïðîñìîòðà
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Ñòàðûé 21.10.2018, 14:36
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äëèòåëüíîñòü èììóíèòåòà ïîñëå Ìåíàêòðû

Çäðàâñòâóéòå! Íèãäå íå ìîãó íàéòè èíôîðìàöèþ î òîì. ñêîëüêî äëèòñÿ èììóíèòåò ïîñëå Ìåíàêòðû. Âåçäå íàòûêàþñü íà îáðûâî÷íûå ñâåäåíèÿ áåç ññûëîê íà ìåæäóíàðîäíûå èññëåäîâàíèÿ . Ñòàðøèì äåòÿì äåëàëà Ìåíàêòðó îäíîêðàòíî ( ñòàðøå 2 ëåò) â 2015ã, ìëàäøåé ïëàíèðóþ 2 äîçû â 9 è 12 ìåñ ( â àïðåëå è èþíå 2019) Êîãäà íóæíî ââîäèòü áóñòåðíóþ äîçó? Íàø èììóíîëîã ãîâîðèò î äëèòåëüíîñòè èììóíèòåòà 10 è áîëåå ëåò, à çàòåì èììóííûé îòâåò áóäåò ôîðìèðîâàòüñÿ çà ñ÷åò èììóííîé ïàìÿòè. Ò.å. áóñòåðíàÿ äîçà íå íóæíà. Äåòè ïðèâèòû ïî ãðàôèêó, ìëàäøàÿ òàêæå ïðèâèâàåòñÿ ïî ãðàôèêó, ñòàðøèå çäîðîâû, ìëàäøàÿ ñ âðîæäåííîé äèñôóíêöèåé êîðû íàäïî÷å÷íèêîâ, êîìïåíñèðîâàíà, ïîëó÷àåò Êîðòåô è êîðòèíåôô, íàáëþäàåòñÿ â ÝÍÖ. Ñïàñèáî.
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Ñòàðûé 21.10.2018, 23:01
Àâàòàð äëÿ Igoryaka
Igoryaka Igoryaka âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 29.07.2018
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 4,111
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 109
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 2,593 ðàç(à) çà 2,500 ñîîáùåíèé
Igoryaka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgoryaka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgoryaka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgoryaka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgoryaka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgoryaka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgoryaka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgoryaka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgoryaka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgoryaka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgoryaka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Çäðàâñòâóéòå!
Ìåíàêòðà ïðèìåíÿåòñÿ ïî ñõåìàì:
9-23 ìåñÿöà: äâóêðàòíî ñ èíòåðâàëîì 3 èëè áîëåå ìåñÿöåâ
2-55 ëåò: îäíîêðàòíî.
Áóñòåðíàÿ äîçà íå ïðåäóñìîòðåíà, â ò.÷. è çà ñ÷¸ò ýôôåêòà èììóííîé ïàìÿòè (èììóíîëîã ãîâîðèò âåðíî).
Âîò èññëåäîâàíèÿ:
1. Ïðîäîëæèòåëüíîñòü çàùèòû: ñïîñîáíîñòü âàêöèíû Ìåíàêòðà èíäóöèðîâàòü ôîðìèðîâàíèå èììóííîé ïàìÿòè ïîñëå ïåðâè÷íîé âàêöèíàöèè áûëà äîêàçàíà â õîäå êëèíè÷åñêèõ èññëåäîâàíèé.  îäíîì èç èññëåäîâàíèé áûëî ïðîäåìîíñòðèðîâàíî, ÷òî ïåðñèñòåíöèÿ áàêòåðèöèäíûõ àíòèòåë â êðîâè ÷åðåç 3 ãîäà ïîñëå îäíîêðàòíîãî ââåäåíèÿ âàêöèíû Ìåíàêòðà áûëà âûøå ïî ñðàâíåíèþ ñ ãðóïïîé ïðèâèòûõ, ïîëó÷èâøèõ îäíîêðàòíóþ èììóíèçàöèþ 4-âàëåíòíîé ïîëèñàõàðèäíîé ìåíèíãîêîêêîâîé âàêöèíîé ïðîòèâ ñåðîãðóïï A, C, Y è W-135.  ãðóïïå ïðèâèòûõ âàêöèíîé Ìåíàêòðà íàáëþäàëèñü áîëåå âûñîêàÿ êîíöåíòðàöèÿ ñûâîðîòî÷íûõ áàêòåðèöèäíûõ àíòèòåë, à òàêæå áîëåå âûñîêàÿ äîëÿ ëèö, èìåâøèõ ñïåöèôè÷åñêèå âûñîêîàâèäíûå àíòèòåëà, ÷òî ãîâîðèò î ôîðìèðîâàíèè èììóííîé ïàìÿòè. (èç èíñòðóêöèè ê Ìåíàêòðå)

2. Ìåíàêòðà îáåñïå÷èâàåò ñòîéêèé èììóííûé îòâåò ó äåòåé >9 ìåñÿöåâ, ïîäðîñòêîâ è âçðîñëûõ, â ò.÷. ïðè ââåäåíèè îäíîâðåìåííî ñ äðóãèìè âàêöèíàìè. Ÿ ýïèäåìèîëîãè÷åñêàÿ ýôôåêòèâíîñòü ñîñòàâèëà 80-85% â ïåðâûå 3-4 ãîäà ïðèìåíåíèÿ.
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
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Ñòàðûé 22.10.2018, 12:21
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Âîò òàêàÿ èíô. î÷åíü ñìóùàåò "An advantage of conjugate vaccines is their ability to elicit immunologic memory. Meningococcal conjugate vaccines prime the immune system, and immunologic memory persists even in the absence of detectible bactericidal antibodies. However, while vaccine-induced immunologic memory might be protective against infection with other disease-causing encapsulated bacteria, the presence of detectable circulating antibody appears to be important for protection against N. meningitidis. In most cases, meningococcal infection progresses rapidly, with fulminant disease occurring within 1-4 days after invasion of normally sterile body sites.

When MenACWY-D vaccine was licensed in 2005 some experts predicted that the vaccine would be effective for up to 10 years, providing protection through the period of highest risk in late adolescence and early adulthood. Since the 2005 ACIP recommendations, additional data have led to improved understanding of meningococcal conjugate vaccines, including new data on duration of vaccine-induced immunity. Antibody persistence studies indicate that circulating antibody declines 3 to 5 years after a single dose of Menactra or Menveo (MenACWY). In addition, results from a vaccine effectiveness study demonstrate waning effectiveness, and many adolescents are not protected 5 years after vaccination. ACIP concluded that a single dose of meningococcal conjugate vaccine administered at age 11 or 12 years is unlikely to protect most adolescents through the period of increased risk at ages 16 through 21 years. On the basis of this information, in 2010, ACIP recommended adding a booster dose at age 16 years." [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ] Ïîëó÷àåòñÿ, ÷òî äàæå ïðè íàëè÷èè ïàìÿòè èììóíèòåòà, öèðêóëÿöèÿ àíòèòåë êðàéíå æåëàòåëüíà? ß òàê ïîíèìàþ, ýòî âàæíî äëÿ ìîëíèåíîñíûõ ôîðì, êîãäà îðãàíèçì â îòñóòñòâèè ãîòîâûõ àíòèòåë ìîæåò íå óñïåòü ñðåàãèðîâàòü. Îáíîâëåíèå ñòð. äàòèðóåòñÿ 2018ã
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Ñòàðûé 23.10.2018, 15:44
Àâàòàð äëÿ Loran1955
Loran1955 Loran1955 âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 04.10.2011
Ãîðîä: Êåìåðîâî
Ñîîáùåíèé: 4,320
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 14
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 2,302 ðàç(à) çà 2,223 ñîîáùåíèé
Loran1955 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLoran1955 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLoran1955 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLoran1955 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLoran1955 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLoran1955 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLoran1955 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLoran1955 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLoran1955 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLoran1955 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLoran1955 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
 íàöêàëåíäàðå ÑØÀ èìåííî òàê è åñòü: ïåðâàÿ äîçà â 11 - 12 ëåò, âòîðàÿ (áóñòåðíàÿ) â 16 ëåò
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Ñòàðûé 23.10.2018, 20:07
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Ïîñòîÿííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 04.05.2015
Ãîðîä: Ëèïåöê
Ñîîáùåíèé: 204
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 99
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 2 ðàç(à) çà 2 ñîîáùåíèé
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Çíà÷èò íàì ëó÷øå ñäåëàòü áóñòåðíóþ. Âîïðîñ â òîì, ÊÎÃÄÀ, â êàêîì âîçðàñòå, åñëè ñòàðøèì ñäåëàëè â 2015 - ïî÷òè 3 è ïî÷òè 8 ëåò. Ìëàäøåé îäíîçíà÷íî áóäó äåëàòü ñ 9 ìåñ, åé êîãäà ïîâòîðÿòü? Åñëè áóäåò ñäåëàíà áóñòåðíàÿ, íà ñêîëüêî õâàòèò èììóíèòåòà, åñòü ëè äàííûå? ß èìåþ â âèäó íå èììóííóþ ïàìÿòü, à öèðêóëèðóþùèå àíòèòåëà. Ìåíèíãîêîêöåìèÿ ó íàñ â ñîñåäíåì äâîðå áûëà ñ ëåòàëüíûì èñõîäîì íåñê. ëåò íàçàä, äåòè ïîñåùàþò ñàä, ñåêöèè, êðóæêè. Ïî îñòàëüíûì âàêöèíàì áîëåå-ìåíåå ÿñíî, ðåâàêöèíèðóåìñÿ âñåé ñåìüåé.
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Ñòàðûé 23.10.2018, 22:52
Àâàòàð äëÿ Igoryaka
Igoryaka Igoryaka âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 29.07.2018
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 4,111
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 109
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 2,593 ðàç(à) çà 2,500 ñîîáùåíèé
Igoryaka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgoryaka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgoryaka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgoryaka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgoryaka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgoryaka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgoryaka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgoryaka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgoryaka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgoryaka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgoryaka ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Êîëëåãè è Lidiya48, âîò èíòåðåñíî: èçó÷èë ïëîòíî CDC ïî ìåíèíãîêîêêîâîé âàêöèíàöèè, ïîñìîòðåë íàöèîíàëüíûé êàëåíäàðü ïðèâèâîê ÑØÀ. Ðåêîìåíäóåòñÿ ðóòèííî å¸ äåëàòü ñ 11 äî 18 ëåò ñ áóñòåðíîé äîçîé ÷åðåç 3-5 ëåò (ëèáî ñ 7 ëåò ñ áóñòåðíîé äîçîé â 16 ëåò), èìåííî òàê, êàê Âû íàïèñàëè, óâàæàåìàÿ Òàòüÿíà Âàëåðüåâíà è Lidiya48. Ýòî ïîáóæäàåò "äîðàñøèðÿòü" êðóãîçîð è èñêàòü äîïîëíèòåëüíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ
íî ïðî infants and children (0-6 ëåò) î÷åíü ðàñïëûâ÷àòî, íè êîíêðåòíûõ ñðîêîâ,íè äîç
Two doses of MenACWY are routinely recommended for adolescents 11 through 18 years old: the first dose at 11 or 12 years old, with a booster dose at age 16.
Some adolescents, including those with HIV, should get
additional doses.



The MenACWY vaccine (Ìåíàêòðà) is recommended for:

Preteens and teens ages 11 through 18 (2 doses)
Children and adults age 2 months and older and adults who are at increased risk for meningococcal disease (doses may vary) (î÷åíü ðàñïëûâ÷àòî, áîëüøåé èíôîðìàöèè íå íàøåë)

Ïðî áóñòåðíóþ äîçó ó äåòåé äî 7 ëåò òàêæå íè ñëîâà.
Âëîæåíèÿ
Òèï ôàéëà: pdf parent-ver-sch-0-6yrs.pdf (283.0 Êá, 6 ïðîñìîòðîâ)
Òèï ôàéëà: pdf parent-version-schedule-7-18yrs.pdf (211.9 Êá, 5 ïðîñìîòðîâ)
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Ñòàðûé 24.10.2018, 08:40
Àâàòàð äëÿ luidhen
luidhen luidhen âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 10.11.2010
Ãîðîä: ×åëÿáèíñê
Ñîîáùåíèé: 9,055
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 40
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 4,301 ðàç(à) çà 4,154 ñîîáùåíèé
Çàïèñåé â äíåâíèêå: 3
luidhen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåluidhen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåluidhen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåluidhen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåluidhen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåluidhen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåluidhen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåluidhen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåluidhen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåluidhen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåluidhen ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Òåìà ïðèîáðåòàåò õàðàêòåð "çà ïîãîâîðèòü".
Äî ñèõ ïîð ïðîäîëæàþòñÿ èññëåäîâàíèÿ, ìîíèòîðèíã ïîñòâàêöèíàëüíîãî èììóíèòåòà (è ïðîòèâ ðàçëè÷íûõ ñåðîòèïîâ èíôåêöèè). Ìåíÿþòñÿ ñõåìû, â òîì ÷èñëå â çàâèñèìîñòè îò ýïèäñèòóàöèè, âîçðàñòà.
Âî ìíîãèõ ñòðàíàõ, êàê è â Ðîññèè âàêöèíû íå âêëþ÷åíû â ïëàíîâóþ âàêöèíàöèþ. Èñïîëüçóþòñÿ â îñíîâíîì ïðè âñïûøêàõ èíôåêöèè. Íîñèòåëüñòâî êàñàåòñÿ ÷àùå ïîäðîñòêîâ è ìîëîäûõ ëþäåé. Ïîçèöèÿ ÂÎÇ òîæå íåîäíîçíà÷íà ïîêà â îòíîøåíèè âàêöèíàöèè ïðîòèâ ìåíèíãîêîêêîâîé èíôåêöèè.
Äåòè òîïèêñòàðòåðà, ê òîìó æå, íå äîñòèãëè ïðåäïîëàãàåìîãî âîçðàñòà áóñòåðíîé âàêöèíàöèè.

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