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Ñòàðûé 20.06.2007, 20:38
Igor73 Igor73 âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 17.03.2005
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 1,195
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 69 ðàç(à) çà 53 ñîîáùåíèé
Igor73 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgor73 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgor73 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgor73 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgor73 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgor73 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgor73 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgor73 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgor73 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgor73 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåIgor73 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
The Australian Diabetes, Obesity, and Lifestyle Study

Elizabeth L.M. Barr åt al. Risk of Cardiovascular and All-Cause Mortality in Individuals With Diabetes Mellitus, Impaired Fasting Glucose, and Impaired Glucose Tolerance. The Australian Diabetes, Obesity, and Lifestyle Study (AusDiab) Circulation 2007, 18 June

Background--Diabetes mellitus increases the risk of cardiovascular disease (CVD) and all-cause mortality. The relationship between milder elevations of blood glucose and mortality is less clear. This study investigated whether impaired fasting glucose and impaired glucose tolerance, as well as diabetes mellitus, increase the risk of all-cause and CVD mortality.

Methods and Results--In 1999 to 2000, glucose tolerance status was determined in 10 428 participants of the Australian Diabetes, Obesity, and Lifestyle Study (AusDiab). After a median follow-up of 5.2 years, 298 deaths occurred (88 CVD deaths). Compared with those with normal glucose tolerance, the adjusted all-cause mortality hazard ratios (HRs) and 95% confidence intervals (CIs) for known diabetes mellitus and newly diagnosed diabetes mellitus were 2.3 (1.6 to 3.2) and 1.3 (0.9 to 2.0), respectively. The risk of death was also increased in those with impaired fasting glucose (HR 1.6, 95% CI 1.0 to 2.4) and impaired glucose tolerance (HR 1.5, 95% CI 1.1 to 2.0). Sixty-five percent of all those who died of CVD had known diabetes mellitus, newly diagnosed diabetes mellitus, impaired fasting glucose, or impaired glucose tolerance at baseline. Known diabetes mellitus (HR 2.6, 95% CI 1.4 to 4.7) and impaired fasting glucose (HR 2.5, 95% CI 1.2 to 5.1) were independent predictors for CVD mortality after adjustment for age, sex, and other traditional CVD risk factors, but impaired glucose tolerance was not (HR 1.2, 95% CI 0.7 to 2.2).

Conclusions--This study emphasizes the strong association between abnormal glucose metabolism and mortality, and it suggests that this condition contributes to a large number of CVD deaths in the general population. CVD prevention may be warranted in people with all categories of abnormal glucose metabolism.
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
Melnichenko îäîáðèë(à):
Light îäîáðèë(à):
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 20.06.2007, 21:02
Àâàòàð äëÿ Anna_Shvedova
Anna_Shvedova Anna_Shvedova âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 24.02.2006
Ãîðîä: Âîðîíåæ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 16,025
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 4,808 ðàç(à) çà 4,645 ñîîáùåíèé
Anna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #3  
Ñòàðûé 20.06.2007, 21:04
Íàòàëüÿ Ï. Íàòàëüÿ Ï. âíå ôîðóìà
Ïî÷åòíûé ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.11.2004
Ãîðîä: íåò
Ñîîáùåíèé: 13,066
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,101 ðàç(à) çà 845 ñîîáùåíèé
Íàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Íàäî ïåðåâåñòè äëÿ "Îæèðåíèå è ïåðååäàíèå"

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #4  
Ñòàðûé 20.06.2007, 21:14
Àâàòàð äëÿ Anna_Shvedova
Anna_Shvedova Anna_Shvedova âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 24.02.2006
Ãîðîä: Âîðîíåæ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 16,025
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 4,808 ðàç(à) çà 4,645 ñîîáùåíèé
Anna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
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Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
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Àííà, âðà÷-ýíäîêðèíîëîã
Âîðîíåæ, êëèíèêà Íåïëàöåáî
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #5  
Ñòàðûé 21.06.2007, 15:48
Àâàòàð äëÿ Light
Light Light âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 17.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 9,773
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 1
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,254 ðàç(à) çà 1,110 ñîîáùåíèé
Light ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Íàâåðíîå, äîëæíû ñî âðåìåíåì ðàçâèàòüñÿ êàðäèî-ýíäîêðèíîëîãè÷åñêèå îòäåëåíèÿ, â êîòîðûõ âðà÷è èìåþò ñïåöèàëèçàöèþ ýíäîêðèíîëîãà+êàðäèîëîãà.
Áåç ãðàìîòíîãî ëå÷åíèÿ íàðóøåíèé óãëåâîäíîãî îáìåíà, îæèðåíèÿ, çàáîëåâàíèé ùèòîâèäíîé æåëåçû è äðóãèõ ýíäîêðèííûõ áîëåçíåé, ïðîòåêàþùèõ ñ ïîðàæåíèåì ñåðäå÷íî-ñîñóäèñòîé ñèñòåìû, êàðäèîëîãàì ñëîæíî ñïðàâëÿòüñÿ ñî ñâîèìè çàäà÷àìè.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #6  
Ñòàðûé 21.06.2007, 15:57
Íàòàëüÿ Ï. Íàòàëüÿ Ï. âíå ôîðóìà
Ïî÷åòíûé ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.11.2004
Ãîðîä: íåò
Ñîîáùåíèé: 13,066
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,101 ðàç(à) çà 845 ñîîáùåíèé
Íàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
À åùå ëó÷øå - ýòî ïðîñòî îòäåëåíèÿ, ãäå ðàáîòàþò òîëüêî ñåñòðè÷êè, à âðà÷è - ÷òî êàðäèîëîã, ÷òî ýíäîêðèíîëîã, ïðèõîäÿò òîëüêî êîíñóëüòèðîâàòü è íàáëþäàòü. Çà÷åì ïëîäèòü òàêèå óçêèå ñïåöèàëüíîñòè?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #7  
Ñòàðûé 21.06.2007, 15:59
Àâàòàð äëÿ Light
Light Light âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 17.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 9,773
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 1
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,254 ðàç(à) çà 1,110 ñîîáùåíèé
Light ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Íàòàëüÿ Ï.
Çà÷åì ïëîäèòü òàêèå óçêèå ñïåöèàëüíîñòè?
Êàêèå æ îíè óçêèå ?
Ýòî øèðå, ÷åì ïðîñòî êàðäèîëîã èëè ýíäîêðèíîëîã. È íóæíû òàêèå âðà÷è ñåé÷àñ íó î÷åíü ñèëüíî!
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #8  
Ñòàðûé 21.06.2007, 16:03
Íàòàëüÿ Ï. Íàòàëüÿ Ï. âíå ôîðóìà
Ïî÷åòíûé ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.11.2004
Ãîðîä: íåò
Ñîîáùåíèé: 13,066
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,101 ðàç(à) çà 845 ñîîáùåíèé
Íàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
À çà÷åì èõ ãîñïèòàëèçèðîâàòü â ñïåö îòäåëåíèÿ è âîîáùå ãîñïèòàëèçèðîâàòü? Òåðàïåâò íå ñïðàâèòñÿ? Äæåíåðàë ïðàêòèñèîíå, òàê ñêàçàòü..
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #9  
Ñòàðûé 22.06.2007, 09:27
Íàòàëüÿ Ï. Íàòàëüÿ Ï. âíå ôîðóìà
Ïî÷åòíûé ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.11.2004
Ãîðîä: íåò
Ñîîáùåíèé: 13,066
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,101 ðàç(à) çà 845 ñîîáùåíèé
Íàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Èíòåðåñíî, ïîäîáíîå èññëåäîâàíèå ìîæíî îðãàíèçîâàòü è ïðîâåñòè ó íàñ?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #10  
Ñòàðûé 22.06.2007, 15:16
Àâàòàð äëÿ Light
Light Light âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 17.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 9,773
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 1
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,254 ðàç(à) çà 1,110 ñîîáùåíèé
Light ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ãîñïèòàëèçèðîâàòü - ïî ïîêàçàíèÿì, êîíå÷íî.
Êðîìå øóòîê, ñåðäå÷íî-ñîñóäèñòàÿ ñìåðòíîñòü áûëà áû íèæå, åñëè áû â îòäåëåíèÿõ êàðäèîðåàíèìàöèè âðà÷è ãðàìîòíî âåëè áû ñîïóòñòâóþùèé äèàáåò, åñëè áû âñåãäà àäåêâàòíî ëå÷èëè ïàöèåíòîâ ñ íàðóøåíèÿìè ô-öèè ùèòîâèäíîé æåëåçû, åñëè áû íå ïðîïóñêàëè ñïëîøü è ðÿäîì àðòåðèàëüíûå ãèïåðòîíèè ýíäîêðèííîãî ãåíåçà (õîòÿ áû âñïîìèíàëè, ÷òî òàêèå åñòü!).
 ìåä èíñòèòóòàõ öèêëû ýíäîêðèíîëîãèè ìàëåíüêèå, êóöûå. Çíàíèÿ â ýòîé îáëàñòè ó òåðàïåâòîâ, êàðäèîëîãâ, ðåàíèìàòîëîãîâ, êàê ïðàâèëî, îñòàâëÿþò æåëàòü ëó÷øåãî...
Âîò è âîçíèêëà ìå÷òà-èäåÿ î êàðäèî-ýíäîêðèíîëîãå!
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #11  
Ñòàðûé 22.06.2007, 20:50
Àâàòàð äëÿ Anna_Shvedova
Anna_Shvedova Anna_Shvedova âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 24.02.2006
Ãîðîä: Âîðîíåæ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 16,025
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 4,808 ðàç(à) çà 4,645 ñîîáùåíèé
Anna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ïî ìîåìó, âñå çàèíòåðåñîâàííûå â ñâîåé ðàáîòå ýíäîêðèíîëîãè è òàê ìîãóò íàçûâàòüñÿ êàðäèî-ýíäîêðèíîëîãàìè

À åùå ñåðäå÷íî-ñîñóäèñòàÿ ñìåðòíîñòü áûëà áû íèæå, åñëè áû êàðäèîëîãè è òåðàïåâòû ñòàòèíû è áåòà-áëîêåðû íàçíà÷àëè òåì. êîìó îíè íóæíû. Â÷åðà ïðèíèìàëà ìóæ÷èíó ñ ÑÄ. â àíàìíåçå 2 èíôàðêòà, â íàçíà÷åíèÿõ ñòàòèíîâ íåò (âèäåëà âûïèñêè), íà ñëîâàõ êàðäèîëîãîì ðåêîìåíäîâàíî êàæäûé äåíü ñúåäàòü ïî êóñî÷êó ñàëà "äëÿ ñíèæåíèÿ õîëåñòåðèíà".  îáùåì, âîïðîñ îá îáùåì óðîâíå êâàëèôèêàöèè, ÈÌÕÎ.
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Àííà, âðà÷-ýíäîêðèíîëîã
Âîðîíåæ, êëèíèêà Íåïëàöåáî
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #12  
Ñòàðûé 23.06.2007, 20:04
Àâàòàð äëÿ Light
Light Light âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 17.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 9,773
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 1
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,254 ðàç(à) çà 1,110 ñîîáùåíèé
Light ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Anna_Shvedova
Ïî ìîåìó, âñå çàèíòåðåñîâàííûå â ñâîåé ðàáîòå ýíäîêðèíîëîãè è òàê ìîãóò íàçûâàòüñÿ êàðäèî-ýíäîêðèíîëîãàìè
Ïî-ìîåìó, òàê îíî è åñòü!
Âîò òîëüêî äèàáåòèêè ñ èíôàðêòàìè ïîïàäàþò, óâû, íå ê ýíäîêðèíîëîãàì...
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #13  
Ñòàðûé 27.07.2007, 16:19
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,259
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,619 ðàç(à) çà 32,693 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ïðîñïåêòèâíîå èññëåäîâàíèå ( ñïîíñîð - NIH) - "Look - Ahead " ðåêðóòèðîâàíî 5000 áîëüíûõ ñ äèàáåòîì 2 òèïà, ïóáëèêàöèÿ ðåçóëüòàòîâ çàïëàíèðîâàíà 2012 ãîäó -11 ëåòíåå èññëåäâîàíèå ñ öåëüþ ñíèæåíèÿ ìàññû òåëà íà 10% ( ðóêîâîäèòåëü - D Ryan)
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #14  
Ñòàðûé 28.07.2007, 10:19
Íàòàëüÿ Ï. Íàòàëüÿ Ï. âíå ôîðóìà
Ïî÷åòíûé ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.11.2004
Ãîðîä: íåò
Ñîîáùåíèé: 13,066
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,101 ðàç(à) çà 845 ñîîáùåíèé
Íàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÍàòàëüÿ Ï. ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
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