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Ñòàðûé 24.05.2017, 15:49
aspi aspi âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 07.10.2011
Ãîðîä: ÿêóòñê
Ñîîáùåíèé: 53
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Ìàêðîïðîëàêòèíà è áåðåìåííîñòü

Óâàæàåìûå êîëëåãè ïðîøó ïîìîùè ïî äàííîìó ñëó÷àþ. Íà ïðîøëîé íåäåëå îáðàòèëàñü ïàöèåíòêà 28 ëåò ñ ïåðâîé æåëàííîé áåðåìåííîñòüþ 10 íåäåëü. 2009 âûÿâëåíà àäåíîìà ãèïîôèçà, ïðîëàêòèíîìà äèàìåòðîì 14-13-9 ìì. Ïðèíèìàëà äîñòèíåêñ ïî 1 òàá 2 ðàçà â íåäåëþ.  íîÿáðå 2016 ãîäà ïîäîøëà êî ìíå íà êîíñóëüòàöèþ ñ ðåçóëüòàòàìè ìðò ãîëîâíîãî ìîçãà. ñêàòå ÷åðåïà îïðåäåëÿåòñÿ îáðàçîâàíèå ñ ÷åòêèìè íåðîâíûìè êîíòóðàìè ðàçìåðàìè 2,6 ñì; 2,2 ñì,øèðèíà 2,5 ñì. Îáðàçîâàíèå ïðîíèêàåò â îñíîâíóþ ïàçóõè,îòòåñíÿåò ãèïîôèç âïðàâî, íîæêà ãèïîôèçà îòêëîíåíà âïðàâî, ñ îáåèõ ñòîðîí òåñíî ïðèëåæèò ê ñèôîíàì ÂÑÀ. Ãèïîôèç íå óâåëè÷åí,îáû÷íîé èíòåíñèâíîñòè. çàêëþ÷åíèå: õîðäîìà ñêàòà ÷åðåïà. Ïðîëàêòèíîìà?.
Íåéïîõèðóðãàìè ðåêîìåíäîâàíî îïåðàòèâíîå ëå÷åíèå. Âûïèñêà ïàöèåíòêè áûëà íàïðàâëåíà â Ýíö. Ðåêîìåíäîâàíî êîíñåðââàòèâíîå ëå÷åíèå. Ïðîëàêòèí 3000. Óâåëè÷åíà äîçà äîñòèíåêñà äî 4 òàá äîñòèíåêñà â íåäåëþ. Ìåíñòðóàöèè ïðåêðàòèëèñü â 2009 ãîäó. Íà ôîíå ëå÷åíèÿ ìåíñòðóàöèè âîçîáíîâèëèñü â ôåâðàëå 2017 ãîäà. Ïðîëàêòèí â ìàðòå 350. Ðåêîìåíäîâàíî ïðåäîõðàíÿòñÿ îò áåðåìåííîñòè â òå÷åíèè ãîäà, êîíòðîëüíàÿ Ìðò ÷åðåç 6 ìåñ . Ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíî ïðåêðàòèëà ïðèåì ïðåïàðàòà â àïðåëå â ñâÿçè ñ áåðåìåííîñòüþ.  ñðî÷íîì ïîðÿäêå áûëà îñìîòðåíà îêóëèñòîì íà ïðîøëîé íåäåëå, ïîëÿ çðåíèÿ èçìåíåíû íà ëåâûé ãëàç íåçíà÷èòåëüíî ïðè âçîðå êíàðóæè áûëî 75, ïðè íîðìå äî 80 íà ëåâûé ãëàç. Â÷åðà îñìîòðåíà íåéðîõèðóðãîì, ðåêîìåíäîâàëè îïåðàöèþ. Ñåãîäíÿ ïîäîøëà íà ïðèåì ñ æàëîáàìè, ÷òî ëåâûì ãëàçîì íå ìîæåò ñìîòðåòü êíàðóæè. Ïðè îñìîòðå ïàðåç âçîðà êíàðóäè íà ëåâûé ãëàç. Çà íåäåëþ òàê áûñòðî óõóäøåíèå.
×òî ïîñîâåòóåòå? 1. Ïðåðûâàíèå áåðåìåííîñòè ïî ìåä ïîêàçàíèÿì â ñðîêå äî 12 íåäåëü, èççà óãðîçû ïîòåðè çðåíèÿ. 2. Ìðò â ñðî÷íîì ïîðÿäêå? 3.Âîçîáíîâèòü äîñòèíåêñ â ïðåæíåé äîçå? Èíäóöèðîâàòü áåð¸ì? 4.Íàïðàâëåíèå â Ýíö ïî Âìï?.  êàêèõ ñëó÷àÿõ ïîêàçàíà îïåðàöèÿ? Åñëè èíäóöèðîâàòü áåðåìåííîñòü, êàê äàëüøå âåñòè áåðåìåííóþ. Êàê ïîâëèÿåò äîñòèíåêñ íà ïëîä? Ìàòü ïàöèåíòêè íàñòðîåíà íà ïðåðûâàíèå áåðåìåííîñòè,î÷åíü ïåðåæèâàåò çà çäîðîâüå äî÷åðè. Ñïàñèáî çàðàíåå.
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Ñòàðûé 24.05.2017, 17:11
Samitin Samitin âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.08.2009
Ãîðîä: Ñàðàòîâ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 2,224
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 8
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 765 ðàç(à) çà 691 ñîîáùåíèé
Samitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Åñëè ðå÷ü èä¸ò ìàêðîïðîëàêòèíîìå, óâåëè÷èâàþùåéñÿ íà ôîíå áåðåìåííîñòè (â îòëè÷èå îò ìèêðîàäåíîì, ýòî ïðîèñõîäèò âåñüìà ÷àñòî - âíå çàâèñèìîñòè îò ïðåäøåñòâóþùåé òåðàïèè äîôàìèíîìèìåòèêàìè) ñ ïîÿâëåíèåì ãîëîâíîé áîëè è/èëè äåôåêòà çðåíèÿ, ïîêàçàíî âûïîëíåíèå ÌÐÒ. Ìîæåò áûòü íàçíà÷åí äîôàìèíîìèìåòèê, íî åñëè ïîñëå íåñêîëüêèõ íåäåëü ïðîáíîé òåðàïèè íè÷åãî íå èçìåíèòñÿ, íóæíî íåéðîõèðóðãè÷åñêîå ëå÷åíèå - ïðåäïî÷òèòåëüíî âî âòîðîì òðèìåñòðå.
Äàííûå ïî âëèÿíèþ íà ïëîä òîæå áûëè óêàçàíû, ïîìíèòñÿ, â ãèïåðïðîëàêòèíåìè÷åñêîì ãàéäå TES.

Åñëè, ïîâòîðþñü, ðå÷ü î ïðîëàêòèíîìå... Õîðîøî áû íà âûïèñêó èç ÝÍÖà ïîñìîòðåòü è íà áîëåå ñâåæóþ âèçóàëèçàöèþ.
Âïðî÷åì, ÿ íåêîìïåòåíòåí, ïîäîæä¸ì ìíåíèÿ óìíûõ êîëëåã.
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Ñòàðûé 24.05.2017, 17:16
Àâàòàð äëÿ Anna_Shvedova
Anna_Shvedova Anna_Shvedova âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 24.02.2006
Ãîðîä: Âîðîíåæ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 16,025
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 4,808 ðàç(à) çà 4,645 ñîîáùåíèé
Anna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Çäðàâñòâóéòå. Íå ñîâñåì ïîíÿòíî, ïàöèåíòêà ñåé÷àñ áåðåìåííà, êàêîé ñðîê? Åñëè äà, òî ÷òî îçíà÷àåò â âîïðîñàõ îïöèÿ "èíäóöèðîâàíèå áåðåìåííîñòè"? Ðåçêîå óõóäøåíèå ìîæåò áûòü âûçâàíî êðîâîèçëèÿåíèåì â îïóõîëü.
Ìàòü ïàöèåíòêè óæ òî÷íî íè÷åãî íå ðåøàåò â ýòîé ñèòóàöèè.

Ñî÷óâñòâóþ Âàì è ïàöèåíòêå, ñèòóàöèÿ íåïðîñòàÿ, íî ñðàçó æå âñå ïðåðâàòü - ýòî ðîññèéñêèé ïîäõîä. ß íå íàøëà â ëèòåðàòóðå ðåêîìåíäàöèé ïî ïðåðûâàíèþ æåëàííîé áåðåìåííîñòè â òàêîé ñèòóàöèè. Íà ìîé ñîâñåì íåýêñïåðòíûé âçãëÿä, ñåé÷àñ íóæíû ÌÐÒ è íàçíà÷åíèå áðîìêðèïòèíà, íî ëó÷øå áû çàðó÷èòüñÿ ýêñïåðòíûì ìíåíèåì è ïîëó÷èòü êîíñóëüòàöèþ ÝÍÖ ïî ìåäèöèíñêèì äîêóìåíòàì.

Âîò ÷òî ïèøóò â ëèòåðàòóðå
Öèòàòà:
The patient should be advised about the symptoms and the need for urgent evaluation once they appear. Close clinical monitoring should be undertaken with formal visual field testing during each trimester. If the patient reports headache or a change in vision, an MRI should be performed. If the MRI finding is consistent with tumor enlargement, the woman should be retreated with a DA (5).

Bromocriptine is considered as the first drug of choice, and it usually decreases the size of the adenoma and eliminates symptoms (42). Cabergoline may be considered if the adenoma does not respond to bromocriptine (43).

If the enlarged tumor does not respond to cabergoline therapy, alternatives include transsphenoidal surgery in the second trimester, or delivery if the pregnancy is advanced enough (16, 25, 41).

Patients with large macroprolactinomas and those with extrasellar extension are strongly discouraged from conceiving until definitive therapy is undertaken. Therapy with surgical debulking may be considered prior to pregnancy, because surgery or radiation has been shown to decrease the risks of symptomatic tumor enlargement (25), but there is high risk of hypopituitarism in these cases. However, debulking surgery is a less preferable option, since medical therapy during pregnancy is probably less harmful than surgery (41). ...
Surgery is an option in cases with no tumor reduction during medical treatment with DA, or in those who developed tumor growth in a previous pregnancy (44).
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
Ïîêà ÿ êðîïàëà, äîêòîð Ñàìèòèí íàïèñàë òî æå ñàìîå, íî êîðî÷å È ÿ òîæå æäó ìíåíèÿ óìíûõ êîëëåã.

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 24.05.2017, 18:28
aspi aspi âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 07.10.2011
Ãîðîä: ÿêóòñê
Ñîîáùåíèé: 53
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 11
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Ìàêðîïðîëàêòèíîìà è áåðåìåííîñòü

Ñïàñèáî çà áûñòðûé îòâåò. Ïðîëîíãèðîâàíèå. Ìðò ïðîâåñòè áåç êîíòðàñòèðîâàíèÿ? Áðîìêðèïòèí òî÷íî íå çíàþ, åñòü ëè îí â íàëè÷èè â ãîðîäå íà ñåãîäíÿ , íå çàêàçûâàþò, âñå íà äîñòèíåêñå. Ïîêà çàêàæóò â àïòåêå âðåìÿ ïðîéä¸ò. Òîãäà ïîêà íà äîñòèíåêñå, ïðèíèìàòü 4 òàá â íåäåëþ, â ïðåæíåé äîçå, ñ ïåðåõîäîì íà áðîìêðèïòèí.  ïåðåðàñ÷åòå íà äîñòèíåêñ, áðîìêðèïòèí â êàêîé äîçèðîâêå íàçíà÷èòü? Åñòü ëè óãðîçà ïðåðûâàíèÿ áåðåìåííîñòè è óãðîçà âíóòðèóòðîáíîé ãèáåëè ïëîäà.
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Ñòàðûé 24.05.2017, 19:59
Samitin Samitin âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.08.2009
Ãîðîä: Ñàðàòîâ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 2,224
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 8
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 765 ðàç(à) çà 691 ñîîáùåíèé
Samitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ãàäîëèíèÿ ïðè áåðåìåííîñòè ëó÷øå, íàâåðíîå, âñ¸ æå èçáåãàòü (ñì. [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]), òåì áîëåå, ÷òî ïîêà ðå÷ü èä¸ò îá óòî÷íåíèè îòíîøåíèÿ îïóõîëè ê õèàçìå.
Ïðîôèëü áåçîïàñíîñòè áðîìîêðèïòèíà è êàáåðãîëèíà ñõîäåí, ðàçíèöà â îáú¸ìå äîñòóïíûõ äàííûõ. ×àñòî ñîâåòóþò ïðîäîëæèòü òîò äîôàìèíîìèìåòèê, êîòîðûé õîðîøî ïåðåíîñèëñÿ äî áåðåìåííîñòè, èëè ïðåäîñòàâëÿþò èíôîðìèðîâàííûéèâûáîð ñàìîé æåíùèíå. ×àñòîòà ìåðòâîðîæäåíèé, íàñêîëüêî ÿ ïîìíþ, íå ïðåâûøàëà òàêîâóþ â îáùåé ïîïóëîÿöèè äëÿ îáîèõ ïðåïàðàòîâ.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 24.05.2017, 20:37
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,237
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,610 ðàç(à) çà 32,684 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ïðèëîæèòå ñêàí âûïèñêè èç ÝÍö, ÌÐÒ áåç êîíòðàñòà.
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 25.05.2017, 00:20
Àâàòàð äëÿ Anna_Shvedova
Anna_Shvedova Anna_Shvedova âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 24.02.2006
Ãîðîä: Âîðîíåæ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 16,025
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 4,808 ðàç(à) çà 4,645 ñîîáùåíèé
Anna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Êëèíè÷åñêè íà àïîïëåêñèþ, êàæåòñÿ, íå òÿíåò
Òàê áîëüøèíñòâî æå âðîäå áåññèìïòîìíûå.
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Àííà, âðà÷-ýíäîêðèíîëîã
Âîðîíåæ, êëèíèêà Íåïëàöåáî
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #8  
Ñòàðûé 25.05.2017, 01:01
Àâàòàð äëÿ Anna_Shvedova
Anna_Shvedova Anna_Shvedova âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 24.02.2006
Ãîðîä: Âîðîíåæ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 16,025
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 4,808 ðàç(à) çà 4,645 ñîîáùåíèé
Anna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò aspi Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Åñòü ëè óãðîçà ïðåðûâàíèÿ áåðåìåííîñòè è óãðîçà âíóòðèóòðîáíîé ãèáåëè ïëîäà.
Íà ðàííèõ ñðîêàõ ñïîíòàííîå ïðåðûâàíèå áåðåìåííîñòè - äîâîëüíî ÷àñòîå ÿâëåíèå è ó çäîðîâûõ æåíùèí. Åñëè Âû áåñïîêîèòåñü î âëèÿíèè ïðåïàðàòîâ íà èñõîäû áåðåìåííîñòè, òî ïîâûøåíèÿ ÷àñòîòû ñïîíòàííûõ àáîðòîâ ëèáî âðîæäåííûõ àíîìàëèé ïðè èñïîëüçîâàíèè áðîìêðèïòèíà /êàáåðãîëèíà íå íàáëþäàëîñü, ïî áðîìêðèïòèíó íàáëþäåíèé áîëüøå íàêîïëåíî, êàê óæå ïèñàëè.
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Àííà, âðà÷-ýíäîêðèíîëîã
Âîðîíåæ, êëèíèêà Íåïëàöåáî
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #9  
Ñòàðûé 25.05.2017, 06:56
Samitin Samitin âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.08.2009
Ãîðîä: Ñàðàòîâ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 2,224
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 8
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 765 ðàç(à) çà 691 ñîîáùåíèé
Samitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Anna_Shvedova Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Òàê áîëüøèíñòâî æå âðîäå áåññèìïòîìíûå.
Òî÷íî, ïîýòîìó äàæå [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]áåññèìïòîìûíûìè êðîâîèçëèÿíèÿìè:

Öèòàòà:
Classical pituitary apoplexy is a relatively rare condition, with an annual incidence of about 1.2 per million.1 Asymptomatic pituitary hemorrhage (sometimes called 'subclinical pituitary apoplexy'), however, is common, and detected in about 10% of all surgically removed pituitary adenomas.2
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Anna_Shvedova Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Ðåçêîå óõóäøåíèå ìîæåò áûòü âûçâàíî êðîâîèçëèÿåíèåì â îïóõîëü.
À êëèíèêà, îïèñàííàÿ ó ïàöèåíòêè, íà êëàññè÷åñêóþ àïîïëåêñèþ íå ïîõîæà.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #10  
Ñòàðûé 25.05.2017, 12:40
ghrh44 ghrh44 âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 21.07.2014
Ãîðîä: N-sk
Ñîîáùåíèé: 3,937
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 2,026 ðàç(à) çà 1,871 ñîîáùåíèé
ghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ïðîëàêòèí ïðè äèàãíîçå: 3000. ×åãî?

Ïî÷åìó ðàäèîëîãè íå ìîãóò îòëè÷èòü õîðäîìó îò àäåíîìû? Îñîáåííî åñëè îíè æå îïèñûâàþò ãèïîôèç êàê íîðìàëüíûé? Âûñâå÷èâàëàñü ëè îïóõîëü íà Ò2?

Äóìàëè ëè îá àäåíîìå ýêòîïè÷åñêîãî ãèïîôèçà ( ýòî åñëè ïðîëàêòèí äåéñòâèòåëüíî î÷åíü âûñîê).

Íî âñå ýòî íå ñóòü.

Ïðè îñòðîé ïîòåðå çðåíèÿ íóæåí ñðî÷íûé ÌÐÒ ( òàêè äà, áåç êîíòðàñòà â ýòîì ñëó÷àå) è ñðî÷íàÿ îïåðàöèÿ. Îáà â òå÷åíèå 24 ÷àñîâ ñ ìîìåíòà ïîñòóïëåíèÿ. Íå çàíèìàòüñÿ ðàçìûøëèçìàìè.

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
Samitin îäîáðèë(à): Ïîêà âðîäå áû îïèñàíî íàðóøåíèå äâèæåíèÿ ÿáëîêà, íî õðåí ðåäüêè íå ñëàùå...
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #11  
Ñòàðûé 26.05.2017, 01:27
aspi aspi âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 07.10.2011
Ãîðîä: ÿêóòñê
Ñîîáùåíèé: 53
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 11
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1 ðàç çà 1 ñîîáùåíèå
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Ìàêðîïðîëàêòèíà è áåðåìåííîñòü.

Áëàãîäàðþ âàñ çà êîíñèëèóì! Ïðîäâèíóòàÿ áîëüíàÿ îòêàçûâàåòñÿ îïåðèðîâàòüñÿ â ßêóòñêå, â ñâÿçè ñ òåì ÷òî ïî å¸ ñëîâàì, ó õèðóðãà äîëæíû áûòü íàáèòû ðóêè íà òàêèõ îïåðàöèÿõ. Óñïååì ëè ïî êâîòå è îòïðàâèòü ïàöèåíòêó ïî ÂÌÏ â ÝÍÖ, ïîòðåáóåòñÿ âåäü íåêîòîðîå âðåìÿ, ïîëó÷èòü îòâåò,âîò âîïðîñ . Ñåãîäíÿ ïðîéäåò òîëüêî Ìðò ãîëîâíîãî ìîçãà. Åù¸ ê ýòîìó, áîëüíàÿ íå ïðèíèìàåò äîôîìèíîìèìåòèêè, âû÷èòàëè ãäå òî ñ ìàòåðüþ, ÷òî ïðåïàðàò âëèÿåò íà ïëîä îñîáåííî â ïåðâîì òðèìåñòðå, â÷åðà ìíîãî ðàç âäàëáëèâàëà åé íà÷àòü ïðèíèìàòü äîñòèíåêñ,âðîäå ñîãëàøàåòñÿ íà ñëîâàõ. Ïðîëàêòèí â ìêÌå /ìë. Õîðäîìà ñêàòà ÷åðåïà, ïðîëàêòèíîìà? òàê áûëî îïèñàíî â ÌÐÒ. Ñ íåéðîõèðóðãàìè ÿ íå ðàçãîâàðèâàëà, íàõîäÿòñÿ ïî äðóãîìó àäðåñó â äðóãîì êîíöå ãîðîäà. Î òîì ÷òî ñâåòèòñÿ èëè íåò îáðàçîâàíèå íà Ò2, òàêèõ òîíêîñòåé â äèô äèàãíîñòèêå ïî ìðò ÿ íå çíàëà. Íàïðàâëþ ê íåéðîõèðóðãàì íà îïåðàòèâíîå ëå÷åíèå. Åù¸ ðàç ñïàñèáî çà öåííûå ðåêîìåíäàöèè.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 26.05.2017, 06:03
ghrh44 ghrh44 âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 21.07.2014
Ãîðîä: N-sk
Ñîîáùåíèé: 3,937
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 2,026 ðàç(à) çà 1,871 ñîîáùåíèé
ghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Íàñêîëüêî ïîíÿë ïî îïèñàíèþ, åñòü ñóæåíèå ïîëÿ çðåíèÿ ñëåâà â äîïîëíåíèå ê ïàðàëè÷ó øåñòîãî íåðâà. Ýòî íå òàê?
Íî äàæå åñòü òîëüêî ñäàâëåíèå êàâåðíîçíîãî ñèíóñà, ìû áû îïåðèðîâàëè ñðî÷íî. Ïîñòîÿííàÿ äèïëîïèÿ äåëî òÿæ¸ëîå. Ïðèçìû ìîãóò ïîìî÷ü, íî íå âñåãäà. È ÷åì äîëüøå æä¸ì, òåì õóæå ïðîãíîç.
Äîñòèíåêñ íå ïîìîæåò: ïðîëàêòèí â ~150 íã/ìë ïðè ïî÷òè 3-ñì îïóõîëè ýòî íå ïðîëàêòèíîìà. Ñäàâëåíèå. Ïðîëàêòèí íîðìàëèçóåòñÿ çàïðîñòî, íî ìàññà íå óìåíüøèòñÿ. Áîëåå òîãî, äîïàìèíýðãèêè ìîãóò âûçâàòü êðîâîèçëèÿíèå â îïóõîëü, òîãäà âîîáùå áóäåò êàòàñòðîôà. Õîòÿ äëÿ ïëîäà îí áåçîïàñåí. Íàäî ðåçàòü, è ñðî÷íî. Ãàðàíòèè íà ïëîõîé èñõîä áåç îïåðàöèè, êàê è ãàðàíòèè íà õîðîøèé ñ îïåðàöèåé íåò è áûòü íå ìîæåò: âñå äî îäíîé ìåäèöèíñêèå ðåêîìåíäàöèè áàçèðóþòñÿ íà âåðîÿòíîñòÿõ, à íå íà áèíàðíûõ àáñîëþòàõ "äà" è "íåò". Íî áàëàíñ â ïîëüçó îïåðàöèè.
Æä¸ì îòâåò ÌÐÒ.
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