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Îïöèè òåìû Ïîèñê â ýòîé òåìå Îïöèè ïðîñìîòðà
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Ïðîñòàòèò è E. Faecalis

Áåñïîêîÿò ÷óâñòâî ææåíèÿ è äèñêîìôîðòà â ïðîìåæíîñòè, èíîãäà íîþò ÿè÷êè. Èíîãäà ïðèñóòñòóåò ææåíèå â óðåòðå ïîñëå ñåìÿèçâåðæåíèÿ èëè ìî÷åèñïóñêàíèÿ. Ïðîáëåì ñ çàäåðæêîé ìî÷è íåò.
Ñäàë àíàëèçû. ÇÏÏÏ îòðèöàòåëüíû.
 ïîñåâå ñîêà ïðîñòàòû îáíàðóæåíû E. Faecalis â 10^5 è Ëåéêîöèòû 6-8.  ïîñåâå èç óðåòðû òàê æå îáíàðóæåíû E. Faecalis â 10^5.
E Faecalis óñòîé÷èâû ê Àìïèöèëèíó, Öåôòðèàêñîíó, Ãåíòàìèöèíó, Àçèòðîìèöèíó, Ðèôàìïèöèíó, Ñóëüôàìåòàêñàçîëó. È óìåðåííî óñòîé÷èâû ê Îôëîêñàöèíó è Íèòðîôóðàíòîèíó.
Íàçíà÷åíî ñëåäóþùåå ëå÷åíèå:
1) Ìàãóðàë 1 òá íà íî÷ü 20 äíåé
2) Òàâàíèê 10 äíåé
3) Ñâå÷è Êåòîíàë 10 äíåé
4) Ñâè÷è Âèòàïðîñò 10 äíåé
5) Íà 1ûé è 7îé äåíü ëå÷åíèÿ Ìåäîôëþêîí.
Ìàññàæ è ôèçèîïðîöåäóðû íàçíà÷åíû íå áûëè.

Ïîäñêàæèòå ïîæàëóéñòà àäåêâàòíî ëè íàçíà÷åííîå ëå÷åíèå.
1) ×åì ìîæíî óáèòü E Faecalis. Îíè ïîõîæå î÷åíü óñòîé÷èâû êî âñåìó.
2) Äîñòàòî÷íî ëè 10 äíåé Òàâàíèêà. ß ÷èòàë â èíòåðíåòå ÷òî ïðè ïðîñòàòèòå íóæíî ïèòü àíòèáèîòèêè ìèíèìóì ìåñÿö.
3) Íóæíî ëè ïðèíèìàòü Ìàãóðàë åñëè íåò ïðîáëåì ñ ìî÷åèñïóñêíèåì?
4) Íóæíû ëè ìàññàæ è ôèçèîïðöåäóðû? Âðà÷ ñêàçàë ÷òî ëó÷øàÿ ôèçåîïðîöåäóðà è ìàññàæ - ýòî ñåêñ. Åñëè íåò ðåãóëÿðíîé ïîëîâîé æèçíè òî ìàñòðóáèðîâàòü.

Çàðàíåå áëàãîäàðåí çà ïîìîùü.
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Ñòàðûé 08.08.2009, 20:37
Àâàòàð äëÿ Andy_Urologist
Andy_Urologist Andy_Urologist âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Êàíäèäàò â âåòåðàíû ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.12.2008
Ãîðîä: Ìàëåíüêèé óåçäíûé ãîðîä
Ñîîáùåíèé: 1,041
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 1
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 298 ðàç(à) çà 291 ñîîáùåíèé
Andy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
×òî-òî ÿ íå ñìîã íàéòè íèãäå ÷òî òàêîå "ìàãóðàë". Ýòî, ïîäîçðåâàþ, êàêîé-òî àëüôà áëîêàòîð? Âû íå èç Óêðàèíû?
Åñëè óñòàíîâëåí äèàãíîç "áàêòåðèàëüíûé ïðîñòàòèò", òî, êîíå÷íî, êóðñ àíòèáèîòèêîòåðàïèè êîðîòêîâàò. Ìåäîôëþêîí, ïîæàëóé, ëèøíèé. À â îñòàëüíîì - ëå÷åíèå êàê ëå÷åíèå. Íàñ÷¸ò ôèçèîëå÷åíèÿ - ñîãëàñåí ñ âàøèì äîêòîðîì. Ñåêñ â ëþáîì ñëó÷àå ëó÷øå, ÷åì ìàññàæ ïðîñòàòû.
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Ñòàðûé 08.08.2009, 23:24
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Ìàãóðàë ýòî àëüôà áëîêàòîð. ß èç Áåëîðóññèè.
À ñêîëüêî äîëæåí áûòü êóðñ àíòèáàêòåðèàëüíîé òåðàïèè?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 09.08.2009, 06:05
Àâàòàð äëÿ Andy_Urologist
Andy_Urologist Andy_Urologist âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Êàíäèäàò â âåòåðàíû ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.12.2008
Ãîðîä: Ìàëåíüêèé óåçäíûé ãîðîä
Ñîîáùåíèé: 1,041
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 1
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 298 ðàç(à) çà 291 ñîîáùåíèé
Andy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Êóðñ àíòèáèòèêîòåðàïèè ïðè áàêòåðèàëüíîì ïðîñòàòèòå - 6 íåäåëü.
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Ñòàðûé 09.08.2009, 10:05
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Ñêàæèòå ïîæàëóéñòà, êàêîé àíòèáèîòèê ëó÷øå âñåãî ïîäõîäèò äëÿ óíè÷òîæåíèÿ E. Faecalis?
Ìîæåò ëó÷øå ïîïðîáîâàòü Àâåëîêñ?
Ìåíÿ ñìóùàåò òî ÷òî îíè óìåðåííî óñòîé÷èâû ê Îôëîêñàöèíó. À âðà÷ âûïèñàë Òàâàíèê ïî÷åìó-òî.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 09.08.2009, 11:39
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Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
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ß îøèáñÿ ñ íàçâàíèåì. Ïðåïàðàò íàçûâàåòñÿ íå Ìàãóðàë, à Ìàãóðîë.
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  #7  
Ñòàðûé 09.08.2009, 16:14
Àâàòàð äëÿ Andy_Urologist
Andy_Urologist Andy_Urologist âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Êàíäèäàò â âåòåðàíû ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.12.2008
Ãîðîä: Ìàëåíüêèé óåçäíûé ãîðîä
Ñîîáùåíèé: 1,041
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 1
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 298 ðàç(à) çà 291 ñîîáùåíèé
Andy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ïðè õðîíè÷åñêîì ïðîñòàòèòå âûáîð àíòèáèîòèêîâ íåâåëèê Ýòî ñâÿçàíî ñ òåì, ÷òî ÀÁ ïðåïàðàòû ïëîõî ïðîíèêàþò â ïðîñòàòó. Èñêëþ÷åíèå - ôòîðõèíîëîíû, âîò âàø äîêòîð è îñòàíîâèëñÿ íà íèõ.
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Ñòàðûé 10.08.2009, 01:13
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Ïîäñêàæèòå èìååò ëè ñìûñë ïðèíèìàòü àëüôà-áëàêàòîð âìåñòå ñ àíòèáèîòèêàìè, åñëè íåò ïðîáëåì ñ ìî÷åèñïóñêàíèåì?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 10.08.2009, 06:36
Àâàòàð äëÿ Andy_Urologist
Andy_Urologist Andy_Urologist âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Êàíäèäàò â âåòåðàíû ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.12.2008
Ãîðîä: Ìàëåíüêèé óåçäíûé ãîðîä
Ñîîáùåíèé: 1,041
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 1
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 298 ðàç(à) çà 291 ñîîáùåíèé
Andy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ïîêàçàíî, ïðèíèìàéòå.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 13.08.2009, 22:57
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Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
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ß ÷èòàë, ÷òî E Faecalis î÷åíü óñòîé÷èâàÿ áàêòåðèÿ. Êàê ïðîâîäèòñÿ ëå÷åíèå åñëè áàêòåðèÿ óñòîé÷èâà ê àíòèáèîòèêàì êîòîðûå õîðîøî ïðîíèêàþò â ïðîñòàòó?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 14.08.2009, 04:34
Àâàòàð äëÿ Andy_Urologist
Andy_Urologist Andy_Urologist âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Êàíäèäàò â âåòåðàíû ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.12.2008
Ãîðîä: Ìàëåíüêèé óåçäíûé ãîðîä
Ñîîáùåíèé: 1,041
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Andy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAndy_Urologist ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Äåëî â òîì, ÷òî äàííûå î ÷óâñòâèòåëüíîñòè áàêòåðèè ïî àíàëèçó ("in vitro") ìîãóò îòëè÷àòüñÿ îò ðåàëüíîé ñèòóàöèè ("in vivo"). ß âàì ñîâåòóþ âñ¸ òàêè íà÷àòü ëå÷åíèå. Î åãî ýôôåêòèâíîñòè ìîæíî áóäåò ñóäèòü òîëüêî êîãäà âû åãî íà÷í¸òå.
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