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Îïöèè òåìû Ïîèñê â ýòîé òåìå Îïöèè ïðîñìîòðà
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Ñòàðûé 06.06.2010, 22:39
himalava himalava âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë æåíñêèé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 02.02.2010
Ãîðîä: ã.Ñóðãóò
Ñîîáùåíèé: 43
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 42
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àñòåíîïèÿ è äèôôóçíûé òîêñè÷åñêèé çîá

Çäðàâñòâóéòå, óâàæàåìûå êîíñóëüòàíòû!
Ó ìåíÿ ìèîïèÿ -6, àñòèãìàòèçì.. Ïîñëåäíèå 3 ãîäà î÷åíü ñòðàäàëà îò êîìïüþòåðíîãî çðèòåëüíîãî ñèíäðîìà – àñòåíîïèÿ. Ñìîòðåòü íå ìîãëà íè íà êàêîé ïðåäìåò âáëèçè. Íå ïîìîãàëî íèêàêîå ñîáëþäåíèå ïðàâèë îôòàëüìîýðãîíîìèêè. Äåëî äîøëî äî òîãî, ÷òî ÿ ñîáðàëàñü óõîäèòü èç ïðîôåññèè. Ñïàñëè ìåíÿ àïïàðàòíîå ëå÷åíèå â êëèíèêå ãëàçíûõ áîëåçíåé, ðàçãðóæàþùèå ñôåðî-ïðèçìàòè÷åñêèå î÷êè, ãèìíàñòèêà äëÿ ãëàç, òàêæå õîðîøî ïîìîãàëè êâàíòîâûå î÷êè, êîòîðûìè ÿ ïîëüçîâàëàñü ïîñòîÿííî âî âðåìÿ ðàáîòû. Êàæåòñÿ, ÿ íàøëà âûõîä èç ñëîæèâøåéñÿ ñèòóàöèè, åñëè áû â ÿíâàðå ìåñÿöå ñåãî ãîäà ìíå íå ïîñòàâèëè äèàãíîç: äèôôóçíûé òîêñè÷åñêèé çîá, èç-çà ÷åãî ÿ ïðåêðàòèëà âñÿêèå âîçäåéñòâèÿ íà ãëàçà. Íà äàííûé ìîìåíò ãèïåðòèðåîç êîìïåíñèðîâàí ïðèåìîì òèðåîñòàòèêîâ. Îôòàëüìîïàòèè íåò.
 ïîñëåäíåå âðåìÿ ìåíÿ ñíîâà ìó÷àåò àñòåíîïèÿ, âåðíóëîñü ñîñòîÿíèå 3-ãîäè÷íîé äàâíîñòè.
Ó ìåíÿ ñëåäóþùèå âîïðîñû:
- ìîæíî ëè ìíå ñåé÷àñ ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ êâàíòîâûìè î÷êàìè?
-íå îêàæóò ëè íåãàòèâíîå äåéñòâèå ãëàçíûå êàïëè Òðîïèêàìèä 1%, êîòîðûå ìíå ðåêîìåíäîâàë ïåðèîäè÷åñêè êàïàòü âðà÷-îôòàëüìîëîã?
-ìîãó ëè ÿ ïðîâîäèòü àïïàðàòíîå ëå÷åíèå àñòåíîïèè â êëèíèêå?
Âîïðîñû äëÿ ìåíÿ àðõèâàæíûå.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 06.06.2010, 22:45
Àâàòàð äëÿ Light
Light Light âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 17.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 9,773
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 1
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,254 ðàç(à) çà 1,110 ñîîáùåíèé
Light ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Âåðà, äàþ îôòàëüìîëîãàì ññûëêó íà Âàøó òåìó ïî ÄÒÇ.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #3  
Ñòàðûé 08.06.2010, 19:10
himalava himalava âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë æåíñêèé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 02.02.2010
Ãîðîä: ã.Ñóðãóò
Ñîîáùåíèé: 43
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 42
himalava *
Ñïàñèáî, Îëüãà Þðüåâíà!
Ê ìîåé òåìå ïî ÄÒÇ õî÷ó äîáàâèòü, ÷òî â íà÷àëå ìàÿ ëå÷èëà êîíüþêòèâèò. 31 ìàÿ åçäèëà â äðóãîé ãîðîä íà ïðèåì ê îôòàëüìîëîãó-ýíäîêðèíîëîãó, è òà ñêàçàëà, ÷òî íà äàííûé ìîìåíò ó ìåíÿ ãëàçà â õîðîøåì ñîñòîÿíèè, îôòàëüìîïàòèè íåò.
Óâàæàåìûå îôòàëüìîëîãè!
Ïðîøó îòâåòèòü íà ìîè âîïðîñû.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #4  
Ñòàðûé 11.06.2010, 18:35
eyedoctor eyedoctor âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ïîñòîÿííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 11.06.2010
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 442
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 25
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 122 ðàç(à) çà 121 ñîîáùåíèé
eyedoctor ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeyedoctor ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Óâàæàåìàÿ Íimalava!

Àñòåíîïèÿ - ýòî íå "êîìïüþòåðíûé ñèíäðîì". Äîñëîâíî ïåðåâîäèòñÿ, åñëè ÿ íå îøèáàþñü, êàê ñëàáûå ãëàçà, èëè óñòàëîñòü ãëàç.
Âîîáùå ãîâîðÿ îíà ìîæåò áûòü äâóõ òèïîâ: àêêîìîäàöèîííàÿ è êîíâåðãåíöèîííàÿ. Ìîãóò, åñòåñòâåííî, âñòðå÷àòüñÿ è ñìåøàííûå âàðèàíòû.
- Àêêîìîäàöèîííàÿ àñòåíîïèÿ - óñòàëîñòü ãëàç (òî÷íåå öèëèàðíîãî òåëà ãëàçà) â ðåçóëüòàòå äëèòåëüíîé àêêîìîäàöèè.
- Êîíâåðãåíöèîííàÿ - óñòàëîñòü ìûøö, äâèãàþùèõ ãëàçà.

Îòîëè÷èòü èõ äîñòàòî÷íî ïðîñòî: âî âðåìÿ ðàáîòû íà íåñêîëüêî ñåêóíä ïðèêðîéòå õóæå âèäÿùèé ãëàç. Åñëè äèñêîìôîðò îñòàíåòñÿ - ýòî, ñêîðåå âñåãî, àêêîìîäàöèîííûé âàðèàíò, åñëè âû ïî÷óâñòâóåòå óìåíüøåíèå äèñêîìôîðòà - êîíâåðãåíöèîííûé.

Èñõîäÿ èç ëè÷íîãî îïûòà ìîãó ñêàçàòü, ÷òî ïðè ïðîáëåìàõ ñ ùèòîâèäíîé æåëåçîé ÷àùå âñòðå÷àåòñÿ êîíâåðãåíöèîííûé âàðèàíò. Îäíàêî ÷òî ñëó÷èëîñü â Âàøåì ñëó÷àå - ñêàçàòü äîñòîâåðíî íå ìîãó èç-çà íåäîñòàòî÷íîñòè äàííûõ.

 îáîèõ ñëó÷àÿõ ÷àñòî(õîòÿ è íå âñåãäà) ïîìîãàþò ïðàâèëüíî ïîäîáðàííûå î÷êè.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #5  
Ñòàðûé 11.06.2010, 22:37
Àâàòàð äëÿ Anna_Shvedova
Anna_Shvedova Anna_Shvedova âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 24.02.2006
Ãîðîä: Âîðîíåæ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 16,025
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 4,808 ðàç(à) çà 4,645 ñîîáùåíèé
Anna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåAnna_Shvedova ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò eyedoctor Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Èñõîäÿ èç ëè÷íîãî îïûòà ìîãó ñêàçàòü, ÷òî ïðè ïðîáëåìàõ ñ ùèòîâèäíîé æåëåçîé ÷àùå âñòðå÷àåòñÿ êîíâåðãåíöèîííûé âàðèàíò.
Óâàæàåìûé êîëëåãà, ìîæíî ëè ïîïðîñèòü ññûëîê íà ýòó òåìó? Îôòàëüìîïàòèè, ñî ñëîâ ïàöèåíòêè, íåò. ÄÒÇ ìàíèôåñòèðîâàë ñïóñòÿ òðè ãîäà ïîñëå ïîÿâëåíèÿ ãëàçíûõ æàëîá. Ýíäîêðèíîëîãàì ïðàêòè÷åñêè íè÷åãî íå èçâåñòíî ïðî ñî÷åòàíèå "àñòåíîïèÿ + ÄÒÇ", ïîýòîìó áûëè áû áëàãîäàðíû çà èíôîðìàöèþ.
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Àííà, âðà÷-ýíäîêðèíîëîã
Âîðîíåæ, êëèíèêà Íåïëàöåáî
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #6  
Ñòàðûé 13.06.2010, 02:07
eyedoctor eyedoctor âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ïîñòîÿííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 11.06.2010
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 442
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 25
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 122 ðàç(à) çà 121 ñîîáùåíèé
eyedoctor ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåeyedoctor ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Óâàæàåìàÿ Àííà!
Íà ñâîé ëè÷íûé íåîïóáëèêîâàííûé îïûò ññûëàòüñÿ íåýòè÷íî, ïîýòîìó ÷åñòíî ïîïûòàëñÿ íàéòè ÷òî-ëèáî â îòå÷åñòâåííîì ñåãìåíòå ñåòè. È íå íàøåë Ìîãó òîëüêî ñêàçàòü, ÷òî ñðåäè áîëüíûõ ÄÒÇ äîâîëüíî ÷àñòî âñòðå÷àþòñÿ àñòåíîïè÷åñêèå æàëîáû. À îôòàëüìîïàòèÿ ìîæåò ðàçâèâàòüñÿ è äî ïîñòàíîâêè ýíäîêðèíîëîãè÷åñêîãî äèàãíîçà!
Êðîìå òîãî, ïîä ýíäîêðèííîé îôòàëüìîïàòèåé ïîíèìàþ ãðóáûå íàðóøåíèÿ ïîëîæåíèÿ âåê, ãëàçíîãî ÿáëîêà è èõ ïîäâèæíîñòè. À äëÿ ïîÿâëåíèÿ àñòåíîïè÷åñêèõ æàëîá äîñòàòî÷íî ëèøü èõ íåáîëüøîãî, íåâèäèìîãî ñî ñòîðîíû äåôåêòà.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 13.06.2010, 10:12
Àâàòàð äëÿ Light
Light Light âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 17.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 9,773
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 1
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,254 ðàç(à) çà 1,110 ñîîáùåíèé
Light ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Âîò. Ïî òåìå íàøëà òîëüêî ýòîò àáñòðàêò. Ïîëíîòåêñòîâàÿ ñòàòüÿ - íà íåìåöêîì.

Öèòàòà:
Ther Umsch. 1996 Jan;53(1):25-30.

Rapid eye fatigue--causes and therapy
[Article in German]

Thaller-Antlanger H.

Station für Augenmotilität (Sehschule) der Landeskrankenanstalten Salzburg.


Abstract
Tired eyes even after a short period of strain are well known as asthenopia. This term derives from a Greek expression meaning 'weak eye'. The following reasons are to be taken into account: uncorrected refractional errors such as hyperopia and astigmatism, accommodative and fusional defects and heterophoria, or combinations there of. With many cases of asthenopia the clinical symptomatology may resemble an organic eye disease or an affection of the brain [dry eye, Graves' disease, myasthenia, special form of essential blepharospasm, neurogenic latent eye muscle palsies, narcolepsy]. It is the aim of a precise patient's history to differentiate between functional and organic causes. By means of case reports and diagnostic tools, the development of symptomatology and the therapy are discussed.
Íî â îáùåì-òî ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî ïðè ýíäîêðèííîé îôòàëüìîïàòèè åñòü âñå îñíîâàíèÿ äëÿ ðàçâèòèÿ àñòåíîïèè. Ëå÷åíèå, î÷åâèäíî, ñèìïòîìàòè÷åñêîå.

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