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09.06.2009, 15:56
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Лечение отита у детей
Объективный диагноз острого среднего отита помогает поставить тимпанометрия(наличие жидкости в среднем ухе),но это не отменяет выжидательную тактику 3 дня,т.к большинство отитов у деток проходит самостоятельно и назначения антибиотика не требует.Проблема гипердиагностики отитов характерна для многих стран,например для соседней Финляндии:[Ссылки доступны только зарегистрированным пользователям ]
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#2
10.06.2009, 19:37
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Что-то наш форум часто напоминает мне судилище для врачей. Однако, судить и оценивать мы никого не будем, так как во-первых, мы не видели пациента, во-вторых, не знаем, чем руководствовался доктор, назначая лечение и, в-третьих, это не этично и не коллегиально.
В вашем случае, антибиотик не навредит основному процессу (хотя, он и не показан, более того, помнится, есть мнение, что назначение антибиотика способствует появлению выпота). Греть, все же, не надо. О наличии жидкости в среднем ухе можно судить только по результатам осмотра и специальных исследований, о чем выше уже сказал Коллега. Беконазе в данном случае не совсем в тему, хотя и не навредит (как и антибиотик =) На мой взгляд, в любом случае, следует назначить сосудосуживающие капли в нос 6 раз в день, в положении на спине с запрокинутой головой, антигистаминные прапараты, промывание полости носа солевыми растворами (аквалор, аквамарис, долфин, и т.п.), в ухо можно покапать капли ушные Ципромед. А вообще, затруднительно (и неправильно, не осмотрев пациента) рекомендовать что-либо заочно. Обратитесь к другому отоларингологу. Это Ваше законное право.
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#3
10.06.2009, 19:51
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#4
10.06.2009, 20:11
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Презабавно. На предмет компетентности или нет, я сказал уже выше. Если есть желание подиспутировать, прошу в личку или по е-мейл, а не на общем (я имею ввиду в присутствии пациентов) форуме - буду рад конструктивной критике. Кстати, интересно было бы узнать Ваше мнение на предмет моих рекомендаций, что конкретно Вам не понравилось и почему.
Все мои заочные рекомендации сведены к одному. Лечение может назначить ТОЛЬКО живой доктор 
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#5
10.06.2009, 20:21
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Выделено из темы http://forums.rusmedserv.com/showthr...915#post767915 в профессиональное обсуждение.
Доктор akaMedic, на РМС не принято обсуждение "в личке". - позиция отстаивается открыто. Это дает возможность объективно оценить дискуссию и научиться не только оппоненту (а вдруг Вы знаете что то , чего остальные не знают), но и всем читающим. Просим аргументы, подтверждающие Вашу позицию.
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#6
10.06.2009, 20:33
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Спасибо. Я имел ввиду, что негоже переругиваться при пациентах. Насчет лички сказал исключительно из этих соображений (я здесь человек новый и всех тонкостей пока не знаю).
На предмет ципромеда- согласен, сильно облажался. Заглянул в РЛС, каюсь  Буду осторожнее.На предмет деконгестантов, антигистаминных и промывания полости носа все просто - стремимся уменьшить отек слизистой и избавиться от дисфункции слуховой трубы (Солдатов, 1997 год - знаю, что старо, но под рукой ничего больше нет ). Все остальные мероприятия (ну, как мне кажется, само собой), примененные пациентом бесконтрольно, могут нанести вред его драгоценному для нас здоровью.
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#7
10.06.2009, 20:45
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Как же нет под рукой.
Вы же в интернете, раз мы разговариваем. Здесь есть все, что требуется для профессиональной беседы. Начнем отсюда Jul 22, 2008 - это несколько свежее. [Ссылки доступны только зарегистрированным пользователям ]
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10.06.2009, 20:56
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The following are among the many strategies advocated for medical treatment in patients with OME:
Antimicrobials Antihistamine-decongestants Intranasal and systemic steroids Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) Mucolytics Aggressive management of allergic symptoms Это из ссылки, предоставленной глубокоуважаемым ВВС. Пункт 3, "Antihistamine-decongestants". Именно об этом я и говорил. Хотя следующий пункт нам рекомендует применять беконазе, которое мы (дружно) пациенту отрекомендовали как "непоказанное". 
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10.06.2009, 21:19
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Помилосердствуйте, я же сказал "начнем", а не ограничимся".
Итак, мы узнали, что among the many strategies есть исследования с невысоким уровнем доказательности, показывающие возможный эффект Antihistamine-decongestants. ОК. Теперь мы можем сказать, что все исследования были обощены и сведены в единые рекомендации по уровню доказанной эффективности. CLINICAL PRACTICE GUIDELINE Diagnosis and Management of Acute Otitis Media (Subcommittee on Management of Acute Otitis Media) Коротко Цитата:
[Ссылки доступны только зарегистрированным пользователям ] Подробно [Ссылки доступны только зарегистрированным пользователям ] P.S. Кстати, коллеги, нет ли более свежего? У меня только май 2004
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#12
10.06.2009, 21:33
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Last Updated: 12 Apr 2007
Review Date: 11 Apr 2009 Acute Otitis Media Otitis media is a very common problem in General Practice. It is a term which describes two conditions which form part of a continuum of disease. Acute otitis media and otitis media with effusion, both occur mainly in childhood and may be caused by bacterial or viral infection. Most children will have a self limiting illness and many will not present to a doctor. A few will have recurrent or chronic problems and may require referral. As children grow bigger, the angle between the eustachian tube and the pharynx becomes more acute and so coughing or sneezing tends to push it shut. In small children the less acute angle facilitates infected material being transmitted down the tube to the middle ear.. .Epidemiology Most children will experience some form of acute otitis media during their lifetime. The peak age of incidence is 6 months to 15 months old and it is rarely seen above 5 years of age. Otitis media occurs more in the winter than summer months as it is usually associated with a cold. It can occur in adults but this is most unusual.. .Risk factors •Boys are more likely than girls to develop otitis media with effusion (OME). •Children with older siblings at school or nursery are exposed to infections that may be brought home. •Use of a dummy increases risk.1 Presumably the sucking and swallowing opens the eustachian tube and puts the middle ear at risk. •Children who suffer with many colds or respiratory infections are more likely to develop OME. •Parent's smoking is thought to be associated with an increase in both acute and chronic otitis media.2 .Presentation. Symptoms Acute otitis media is a condition in which there is inflammation of the middle ear, frequently in association with an upper respiratory tract infection (URTI). It commonly presents with:-. •Pain. •Malaise. •Irritability. •Fever. •Vomiting. The fever is often very high and may be associated with febrile convulsions.. .Signs Examination may reveal:-. •Fever may be very high. •Red and possibly bulging eardrums. •Sometimes the outer ear glows red. •Hearing loss is present but not usually noticed in an acutely unwell child. A well recognised complication is that a child who is screaming and in a great deal of pain finally settles and the ear starts to discharge green pus. The eardrum has burst, releasing the pressure and relieving the pain.. .Differential diagnosis •Otitis externa. •Post auricular adenitis. •Referred pain, especially from teeth. •Herpetic infection of ear. •Foreign body in external canal. Often children who are unwell have a slightly red eardrum but in acute otitis media it is very red.. .Investigations •Usually no investigation is required. •Culture of discharge from ear may be indicated in chronic or recurrent perforation. •Audiometry should be performed if chronic hearing loss is suspected, but not during acute infection. .Management The majority of cases of acute otitis media will resolve spontaneously without specific treatment but a significant number will not. It can be difficult to decide who will need antibiotics and who will not. Pragmatic and evidence-based recommendations are made here to help the clinician.. .Relief of pain The primary objective of treatment is the relief of symptoms. Pain and temperature should respond to paracetamol or ibuprofen. To get an adequate response, an adequate dose is required and parents are often rather reluctant to give the full, appropriate dose for the child's age. Paracetamol lasts only about 4 hours and needs repeating. Ibuprofen lasts 8 hours and so is useful through the night and many people feel that it may be more effective than paracetamol. The child should not be wrapped up too much and allowed to lose heat. Often parents are reluctant to bring a child out on a cold night but after convincing, they do so, and the cold night air is beneficial and the child arrives less ill than he left out. Parents often use eardrops to try to ease the pain. The efficacy of olive oil, local anaesthetic or other eardrops was a question that a Cochrane review was unable to answer.3. .The role of antibiotics A Cochrane review4 concluded that "antibiotics provide a small benefit for acute otitis media in children. As most cases will resolve spontaneously, this benefit must be weighed against the possible adverse reactions. Antibiotic treatment may play an important role in reducing the risk of mastoiditis in populations where it is more common." The trouble with reviews that find a small benefit overall is that there may be subgroups in which benefit is marked but this effect is diluted by the rest of the trial. One placebo controlled trial found only a modest benefit in terms of symptom relief and failure rate, with the number needed to treat to prevent one treatment failure being 17.5 Another found that to avoid clinical failure between 2 and 7 days required a NNT of 8.6 A pragmatic compromise is either to give a prescription for an antibiotic at the time, telling the parents to wait and see if it is necessary to have it dispensed.7 A variation is to let the parents return at their own discretion in 72 hours to collect a prescription. The latter was recommended by SIGN.8 This is common practice in Holland and has been tried in the UK and USA.9 Only about a quarter of prescriptions are dispensed. Delayed prescription does reduce antibiotic consumption but the duration of delay varies amongst practitioners from 1 to 7 days.10 When organisms are isolated, the most common pathogens are S. pneumoniae (25%), H. influenzae(25%)and Moraxella catarrhalis(15%) and therefore when antibiotics are used, a broad spectrum antibiotic such as amoxicillin, trimethoprim or erythromycin is most commonly used for a period of 5 days. Amoxicillin is still the antibiotic of choice.9 There may appear to be some logic in the use of antihistamines and other decongestants but there is no apparent benefit whilst there is much potential for adverse effects and so they should not be used.11 No evidence has been found to support the use of mucolytics, decongestants or inhaled steroids in otitis media.8. .Who needs antibiotics? Meta-analysis of randomised, placebo-controlled trials demonstrated that antibiotics increased resolution at 1 week by only 13%.9 However, the doctor is faced with a patient, not a statistic. Although the authorities constantly belittle the role of antibiotics in the disease, the NNTs given are not very high compared with many other conditions. Clinical Knowledge Summaries suggests that the following groups are more likely to benefit from antibiotics:12.
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10.06.2009, 21:35
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following groups are more likely to benefit from antibiotics:12.
•Child under 2 years of age. •Bilateral acute otitis media. •Systemic symptoms, including high temperature (above 38.5°C) or vomiting. •Local signs that suggest the infection is severe, such as a particularly bulging or inflamed tympanic membrane. Although not included in this list, the reader may like to include where the eardrum is obviously ruptured as there is pus draining from the ear. The above may be summarised as follows:. •If the child is very hot and unwell and especially if under 2, give antibiotic. •If the child is only mildly unwell, hold back but be prepared to reconsider. •If in doubt, use the delaying strategy. This is in keeping with a large meta-analysis13 that concluded that antibiotics seem to be most beneficial in children younger than 2 years of age with bilateral acute otitis media, and in children with both acute otitis media and otorrhoea. For most other children with mild disease an observational policy seems justified. The Health Protection Agency and the BNF recommend a course of 3 to 7 days and SIGN recommends 5 days.12 If symptoms persist past 7 days, or reoccur within 14 days, treatment failure may have occurred and co-amoxiclav is the second line antibiotic if there is no allergy to penicillin.12. .Further management Children with a discharging ear or a perforated ear drum should be seen again in 2 or 3 weeks time to check progress and told to avoid getting water in the affected ear until then. If it is not fully resolved after 3 weeks, they should in a further interval of 2 or 3 weeks and at this stage any child with persistent problems should be referred for a specialist opinion, as should children with 4 or more episodes in 6 months.8 If pus is pouring from the ear, it will not be possible to see the drum but it is fair to assume that it must be ruptured. A few children will go on to develop a degree of otitis media with effusion with impaired hearing and any child that is thought to have hearing problems should be referred for formal assessment with audiometry. Children under the age of 3 who go on to develop OME with bilateral effusions and hearing loss of less than 25 decibels, but with no speech, language or developmental problems may be observed initially. Children over the age of three who go on to develop OME or with language or behavioural problems may benefit from surgical intervention such as the insertion of grommets and should be referred for a specialist opinion.14. .Complications •Most cases of acute otitis media will resolve spontaneously with no sequelae. •Perforation of the ear drum in not uncommon and progression to chronic suppurative otitis media may occur. •Labyrinthitis, meningitis, intracranial sepsis or facial nerve palsy are very rare and occur in less than 1 in 1,000.6 •Recurrent episodes may lead to scarring of the drum with permanent hearing impairment, chronic perforation and otorrhoea, cholesteatoma or mastoiditis. In recurrent cases, be more ready to use antibiotics. •In a small child with a high temperature there is a risk of febrile convulsions. This is discussed more fully in its own article. .Prognosis With the exception of the few complications given above, there is usually complete resolution in a few days.. .Prevention In children at high risk of recurrent acute otitis media there may be benefit from prophylactic antibiotics. A Cochrane review15 found that for children at risk, antibiotics given once or twice daily will reduce the risk while the child is on treatment. The average incidence falls from around 3 to around 1.5 episodes per year. Larger absolute benefits are likely in high-risk children. Pneumococcal vaccine does not appear to be beneficial in reducing the incidence of otitis media
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