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Ñòàðûé 21.02.2014, 15:56
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Óâåëè÷åíèå ñåëåçåíêè ïðè íîðì. ÎÀÊ

Äîêòîð, ïîæàëóéñòà ïîäñêàæèòå ê êîìó ìîæíî îáðàòèòüñÿ ñ ìîèì âîïðîñîì:
37 ëåò, ðîñò 174ñì, âåñ 87 êã
íà ïðîøëîé íåäåëå ñäåëàíî ÓÇÈ ïî÷åê, ïðè îñìîòðå âðà÷ ñîîáùèë, ÷òî óâåëè÷åíà ñåëåçåíêà. Ïðè ïàëüïàöèè ëåâîå ïîäðåáåðüå óìåðåííî-áîëåçíåííîå.
ÎÀÊ ñäàëà â èíâèòðî - íåò çíà÷åíèé âûõîäÿùèõ çà ïðåäåëû íîðìû
 ÿíâàðå áûë êóðñ ãèðóäîòåðàïèè (6 ñåàíñîâ). Ëèìôîóçåë ñïðàâà çà óõîì óâåëè÷èëñÿ ïîñëå ïîñòàíîâêè íà ãîëîâó, óâåëè÷åí äî ñèõ ïîð. Ðàçìåð ñ ãîðîøèíó, ïðè ïàëüïàöèè áåçáîëåçíåííûé.
Ïîñëå ïîñëåäíåãî ñåàíñà (âíóòðåííÿÿ ïîñòàíîâêà ïèÿâîê) ïîïàëà ïî ñêîðîé â áîëüíèöó ñ êðîâîòå÷åíèåì - áûë ïîâðåæäåí ñîñóä íà ñâîäå âëàãàëèùà ðÿäîì ñ øì. Ïîòåðÿ êðîâè îêîëî 2õ ëèòðîâ, ïåðåëèâàíèÿ íå áûëî.
Ïîìîãèòå ðàçîáðàòüñÿ ãäå èñêàòü ïðè÷èíó óâåëè÷åíèÿ ñåëåçåíêè? ìîæåò ëè åå óâåëè÷åíèå áûòü ñâÿçàííûì ñ êðîâîòå÷åíèåì èëè âîçìîæíà äðóãàÿ ïðè÷èíà è ÎÀÊ åå íå âûÿâëÿåò?
Çàðàíåå áëàãîäàðþ!
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 21.02.2014, 19:42
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad íà ôîðóìå
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,303
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,196 ðàç(à) çà 31,546 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
ìîæåò, êàêàÿ èíôåêöèÿ èç ïèÿâîê áûëà çàíåñåíà â êðîâü è åøå ÷òî... çàî÷íî â äàííîé ñèòóàöèè íå ðàçîáðàòüñÿ... åñëè ÷òî îáíàðóæèòñÿ, òî áóäåò ïîâîä ïîäàòü â ñóä íà ïèÿôêîâîãî äîêòîðà Äóðåìàðà
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 21.02.2014, 23:46
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Âàäèì Âàëåðüåâè÷, à êóäà ìîæíî îáðàòèòüñÿ äëÿ îáñëåäîâàíèÿ è âûÿâëåíèÿ ïðè÷èíû?? Ñ ÷åãî íà÷àòü, èñêëþ÷èòü âîçìîæíûå ïðîáëåìû?
Âîïðîñ âðåìåíè êðàéíå âàæåí ò.ê. ñîáèðàþñü èäòè â ïðîòîêîë ïî ÂÐÒ áóêâàëüíî âîò-âîò. Ñîáñòâåííî ðàäè ýòîãî è ðåøèëàñü íà ïèÿâîê, íî âûøëî êàê â òîé ïîãîâîðêå: íå áûëî ó áàáû çàáîò - êóïèëà áàáà ïîðîñÿ! Òåïåðü ÷òî äåëàòü è êóäà áåæàòü óìà íå ïðèëîæó - íåðâû íà ïðåäåëå. Ðåïðîäóêòîëîã ìíå è ïðèñîâåòîâàë ãåìàòîëîãà, à òîò ëèöî çàèíòåðåñîâàííîå ò.ê. â åãî öåíòðå è ñòàâèëèñü ïèÿâêè.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 22.02.2014, 01:51
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad íà ôîðóìå
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,303
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,196 ðàç(à) çà 31,546 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ìíå ýòî íåâåäîìî - Âàì ñëåäóåò îáðàòèòüñÿ ê î÷íîìó íåçàèíòåðåñîâàííîìó ñïåöèàëèñòó; òåîðåòè÷åñêè íåäàâíÿÿ ìàññèâíàÿ êðîâîïîòåðÿ, óãðîæàþùàÿ æèçíè, èç-çà íåïðàâîìåðíîãî ïðèìåíåíèÿ ïèàôêîòåðàïèè (ïèàâêè ÍÅ èñïîëüçóþòñÿ ïåðåä çà÷àòèåì è çàïðåùåíû ó áåðåìåííûõ) ìîæåò áûòü ñåðüåçíûì îñëîæíåíèåì, ÷òî ìîæåò îòðèö. ïîâëèÿòü íà çà÷àòèå/âûíàøèâàíèå.
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 22.02.2014, 11:06
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Áîëüøîå ñïàñèáî çà Âàø îòâåò!
À êàêîå îïòèìàëüíîå âðåìÿ, íà Âàø âçãëÿä, òðåáóåòñÿ äëÿ âîññòàíîâëåíèÿ?
Íà äàííûé ìîìåíò ïðîøåë ìåñÿö, ÎÀÊ íîðìà ïî âñåì ïîêàçàòåëÿì è äàæå ãåìîãëîáèí ðîâíî ïî öåíòðó, ÷òî ñòàëî ïðèÿòíûì óäèâëåíèåì.
Âîò òîëüêî ñåëåçåíêà...
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 22.02.2014, 15:43
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È åùå õîòåëà óòî÷íèòü òàêîé ìîìåíò: ïðî÷ëà âåòêó ïî ïîâîäó íåöåëåñîîîáðàçíîñòè èññëåäîâàíèé ìóòàöèé ãåìîñòàçà ïðè ïîâòîðíûõ íåâûíàøèâàíèÿõ - ïîíÿòíî. Íî, â êà÷åñòâå ïîñëåäñòâèé êðîâîïîòåðè, âîçìîæåí ëè òðîìáîç êàïèëÿðíûõ ñîñóäîâ è óñóãóáèò ëè åãî ïðèñóòñòâèå òðåõ ãîìîçèãîòíûõ ìóòàöèé PAI-1, MTRR è GP1BA, â ÷àñòíîñòè ãåí ôîëàòíîãî öèêëà?
 êà÷åñòâå ïîäãîòîâêè ê áåðåìåííîñòè íåîáõîäèìî ëè ïðîâåðÿòü óðîâåíü ãîìîöèñòåèíà èëè ñäåëàòü òðîìáîýëàñòîãðàôèþ, äàáû îöåíèòü ìàñøòàá âîçìîæíîé ïðîáëåìû?
Äëÿ ïðîôèëàêòèêè ïüåì ôîëàöèí íà ïàðó ñ ìóæåì è ïðîïèëè êóðñ âèòàìèíîâ ãðóïïû Â. ×òî ñêàæåòå íàñ÷åò ãåïàðèíîâ?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 22.02.2014, 19:45
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad íà ôîðóìå
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,303
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,196 ðàç(à) çà 31,546 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
ãåìîñòàç íå íóæåí ïåðåä áåðåìåííîñòüþ èëè âî âðåìÿ åå... ãåïàðèíû íå ïîâûøàþò øàíñîâ íà çà÷àòèå/âûíàøèâàíèå ïðè ÅÊÎ, ÈÊÑÈ è òï.
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 22.02.2014, 19:54
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad íà ôîðóìå
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,303
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,196 ðàç(à) çà 31,546 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Âîò êàêèå ïîòåíöèàëüíûå èíôåêöèè ìîãóò çàíîñèòüñÿ â ÷åëîâå÷. îðãàíèçì ñ ïèàôêàìè:

However, the use of leeches can be complicated by infections, especially with the bacterial genus Aeromonas Bacterial infections may vary from minor application in modern medicine greatly increased when wound complications, local abscess and cellulitis, to serious illness such as myocarditis, peritonitis, meningitis, bacteremia and sepsis (Bauters et al., 2007; Yantis et al., 2009; Bourdais et al., 2010). The extensive studies carried out on the gut bacterial flora of medical leeches show that Aeromonas hydrophila and Aeromonas veronii biovar sobria are the dominant symbiotic species living in the leech digestive tract (Worthen et al., 2006). However, these bacteria are important pathogens to humans. A high incidence of Aeromonas infection (2.4 to 36%) has been noted after application of medicinal leeches, despite their external decontamination before their medical use (Bauters et al., 2007). Moreover, infections with other pathogens such as Serratia marcescens, Pseudomonas spp., Vibrio fluvialis associated with medicinal leech therapy have also been reported (Porshinsky et al., 2011). Also, feeding leeches with fresh animal blood during the maintenance and reproductive phases poses the risk of transmission of pathogens to the patients. It has been experimentally demonstrated that many pathogens such as viruses, bacteria, and protozoan parasites from previous blood sources can survive within a leech for many months, and may be transmitted to mammalian hosts (Nehili et al., 1994; Al-Khleif et al., 2011). A recent study revealed the presence of potentially pathogenic fungal species such as Candida albicans, Candida tropicalis, Candida guilliermondii, Candida krusei, on the jaws and body surface of H. medicinalis (Biedunkiewicz and Bielecki, 2010). Moreover, some cases of chromoblastomycosis caused by Fonsecaea species after wild leech bites have been reported (Ungpakorn and Reangchainam, 2006; Slesak et al., 2011).

Hirudo verbana is a source of fungal isolates potentially pathogenic to humans...
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Ñòàðûé 23.02.2014, 11:02
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Ïðèâåäåíû î÷åíü âûñîêèå ïîêàçàòåëè çàðàæåíèÿ! Íå ïîíèìàþ ïî÷åìó â ýòîé ñâÿçè ãèðóäîòåðàïèþ íå îáúÿâëÿþò ïîòåíöèàëüíî îïàñíûì äëÿ çäîðîâüÿ ÷åëîâåêà ìåòîäîì?
Óïîìèíàíèå î Aeromonas hydrophila èìåííî â êîíòåêñòå çàðàæåíèÿ ÷åëîâåêà îò ïèÿâêè ÷åðåç êðîâü íàøëà ó Âëàäèìèðà Àëåêñååâè÷à Ñàâèíîâà (ê.ì.í., Ïðåçèäåíò Àññîöèàöèè ãèðóäîëîãîâ Ðîññèè è Ìîñêîâñêîãî Àëüÿíñà ãèðóäîòåðàïåâòîâ, íàðîäíûé öåëèòåëü. ×ëåí Åâðîïåéñêîãî îáùåñòâà ìåäèöèíñêèõ îíêîëîãîâ è åâðîïåéñêîé Àññîöèàöèè ïî ðàêîâûì èññëåäîâàíèÿì). Ïðè÷åì Aeromonas hydrophila ïðåäñòàâëÿåòñÿ êàê áàêòåðèÿ-ñèìáèîíò èãðàþùàÿ íà ñòîðîíå ÷åëîâåêà.

Ìîãëè áû Âû ïðîêîìåíòèðîâàòü äàííûé ìåòîä â êîíòåêñòå ìîåé ïðîáëåìû?

Íèæå ïðèâîæó öèòàòó:
Ïðîâîäÿò ëå÷åíèå àóòîêðîâüþ èç ïðèñòàâíîé ïèÿâêè. « Àóòîêðîâü èç ïðèñòàâíîé ïèÿâêè ñîäåðæèò â ñåáå áàêòåðèþ ñèìáèîíò (Aeromonas hydrophila) åäèíñòâåííûé ìèêðîîðãàíèçì, âåãåòèðóþùèé â åå æåëóäêîâîé êèøêå. Ýòîò ôàêò, ñàì ïî ñåáå, çàñòàâëÿåò äóìàòü, ÷òî âñåõ äðóãèõ ïðåäñòàâèòåëåé ìèêðîìèðà, êîòîðûõ ïèÿâêà ïîãëîùàåò èç ñðåäû ñâîåãî îáèòàíèÿ, áàêòåðèÿ-ñèìáèîíò "â ñâîåì äîìå" óíè÷òîæàåò, äåìîíñòðèðóÿ ÿâëåíèå áàêòåðèàëüíîãî àíòàãîíèçìà. Ïðè âíóòðèêîæíîì ââåäåíèè àóòîêðîâè ðàçâèâàåòñÿ êëàññè÷åñêàÿ ðåàêöèÿ ãèïåð÷óâñòâèòåëüíîñòè çàìåäëåííîãî òèïà (Ã×ÇÒ) ñ àêòèâàöèåé ëèìôîöèòàðíî-ìàêðîôàãàëüíîãî çâåíà èììóííîãî îòâåòà, à ïîäêîæíûå è âíóòðèìûøå÷íûå èíúåêöèè â âèäå ãèïåðòåðìèè è îçíîáà. Òàêèì îáðàçîì, â ìåòîäèêå ëå÷åíèÿ àóòîêðîâüþ èç ïðèñòàâíîé ïèÿâêè ñî÷åòàåòñÿ âñå ñâîéñòâà, ïðèñóùèå ãåìîòåðàïèè, à òàêæå àêòèâíàÿ íåñïåöèôè÷åñêàÿ èììóíîñòèìóëÿöèÿ è ÿâëåíèå áàêòåðèàëüíîãî àíòàãîíèçìà. Òðè â îäíîì!.. Òàê ïðè ïàðåíòåðàëüíîì ââåäåíèè àóòîêðîâè èç ïðèñòàâíîé ïèÿâêè äîïîëíèòåëüíî äåéñòâóþò è ïèÿâî÷íûå ôåðìåíòû, è ýíåðãèÿ, è áàêòåðèÿ-ñèìáèîíò (Aeromonas hydrophila).
Åñëè ðàññóæäàòü ïî àíàëîãèè ñ æèâûìè âàêöèíàìè ÁÖÆ, êîòîðûå ðàçìíîæàþòñÿ â îðãàíèçìå ðåöèïèåíòà è ïîýòîìó îêàçûâàþò áîëåå ìàññèâíîå àíòèãåííîå âîçäåéñòâèå ïî ñðàâíåíèþ ñ óáèòûìè âàêöèíàìè, òî ñëåäîâàëî áû ïðåäïîëîæèòü, ÷òî è (Aeromonas hydrophila) áóäåò ðàçìíîæàòüñÿ â òå÷åíèå êàêîãî-òî ñðîêà â ðàçëè÷íûõ ó÷àñòêàõ ÷åëîâå÷åñêîãî òåëà, âîçìîæíî èìåííî â ïàòîëîãè÷åñêè èçìåíåííûõ òêàíÿõ, êóäà åå áóäóò ïðèâëåêàòü ïðåäñòàâèòåëè ìèêðîìèðà, êîòîðûõ îíà äîëæíà óíè÷òîæèòü (áàêòåðèÿ-êèëëåð), âîñïðîèçâîäÿ íå òîëüêî áàêòåðèàëüíûé àíòàãîíèçì, íî è ïðîäóöèðóÿ ðÿä ôåðìåíòîâ, ïðèñóùèõ ïèÿâêå, íàïðèìåð, äåñòàáèëàçó è äð. Âåðîÿòíî, ïîýòîìó â/â è ï/ê ââåäåíèå àóòîêðîâè èç ïðèñòàâíîé ïèÿâêè áûâàåò ýôôåêòèâíûì íå òîëüêî ó ïàöèåíòîâ ñ ñèñòåìíûìè ïîðàæåíèÿìè äîáðîêà÷åñòâåííîé ïðèðîäû, íî è ïðè îïóõîëåâîé áîëåçíè, êîãäà (Aeromonas hydrophila) óíè÷òîæàåò è íå ïîéìàííóþ òðèõîìîíàäó (Ò. ß. Ñâèùåâà), è íèêåì íå óâèäåííûå îíêîâèðóñû (Ë. À. Çèëüáåð), ïîâîðà÷èâàÿ âåêòîð ðàçâèòèÿ çëîêà÷åñòâåííîé ïðîãðåññèè â áëàãîïðèÿòíóþ ñòîðîíó.  ñâåòå èçëîæåííîãî ñòàíîâèòñÿ ïîíÿòíûì, ÷òî ãèïåðòåðìèþ è îçíîá íàäëåæèò ðàññìàòðèâàòü êàê çàùèòíûå ðåàêöèè ïðîòèâ ïèÿâî÷íîé áàêòåðèè-ñèìáèîíòà.»
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Âàäèì Âàëåðüåâè÷,
Ñåãîäíÿ ïîëó÷èëà ðåçóëüòàòû àíàëèçîâ.

 áàçîâîé êîàãóëîãðàììå ïîâûøåíû ÐÊÌÔ è À×ÒÂ. ×òî ýòî îçíà÷àåò?
À×Ò 46,1 (32,00-42,00) âûøå
ÐÊÌÔ 6,00 (3,00-4,00) âûøå
Ôèáðèíîãåí â ïëàçìå 2,7 (2,00-4,00)
Òðîìáèíîâîå âðåìÿ 16,5 (15,00-20,00)
ÌÍÎ 1,05
Ïðîòðîìáèíîâûé èíäåêñ 97 (90,00-110,00)

Ôåððèòèí 18,2 (11,00-306,80)
Æåëåçî ñûâîðîòêè 60,0 (45,00-170,00) - Íóæíî ëè ïðèíèìàòü ïðåïàðàòû æåëåçà äëÿ ïðîôèëàêòèêè ÆÄÑ?
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Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad íà ôîðóìå
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,303
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,196 ðàç(à) çà 31,546 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
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