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Ñòàðûé 27.06.2010, 05:49
Ìàðãàðèòà Àíøèíà Ìàðãàðèòà Àíøèíà âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà Áåñïëîäíûé áðàê
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 23.07.2009
Ãîðîä: ã. Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 4,377
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 4
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,724 ðàç(à) çà 1,681 ñîîáùåíèé
Ìàðãàðèòà Àíøèíà ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÌàðãàðèòà Àíøèíà ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÌàðãàðèòà Àíøèíà ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÌàðãàðèòà Àíøèíà ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÌàðãàðèòà Àíøèíà ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÌàðãàðèòà Àíøèíà ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÌàðãàðèòà Àíøèíà ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Äîëãîå âðåìÿ ãðóïïà Âåðëèíñêîãî áûëà ïðàêòè÷åñêè åäèíñòâåííîé, êîòîðàÿ âûïîëíÿëà ÏÃÄ. È äî íàñòîÿùåãî âðåìåíè îñòàåòñÿ ýêñïåðòíîé, ïîñêîëüêó äåëàåò ýòèõ ïðîöåäóð â íåñêîëüêî ðàç áîëüøå, ÷åì âñå îñòàëüíûå öåíòðû ìèðà âìåñòå âçÿòûå. È ïî-ïðåæíåìó åäèíñòâåííîé, êîòîðàÿ ïî ýòîé ïðè÷èíå èìååò ïðàâî íà ñòàòèñòèêó. Ïîòîì ïîÿâèëèñü ïîñëåäîâàòåëè, èç êîòîðûõ ìíîãèå äóìàþò, ÷òî îâëàäåëè ìåòîäîì, íî íà ñàìîì äåëå ëèøü äèñêðåäåòèðóþò åãî. Ñðåäè íèõ íåìàëî òåõ, êòî ñêîðåå ñîãëàñèòñÿ ïîõîðîíèòü ìåòîä, èäåþ, ÷åì ïðèçíàåò ñâîå íåñîâåðøåíñòâî. Íà ìîé âçãëÿä, ïðàâîìî÷íîñòü ìåòîäà, ïðèâîäÿùåãî ê ðîæäåíèþ çäîðîâîãî ðåáåíêà ó æåíùèíû, ÷üè ïîïûòêè çà÷àòü â òå÷åíèå ìíîãèõ ìó÷èòåëüíûõ ëåò áûëè áåñïëîäíû (èçâèíèòå çà íåâîëüíóþ èãðó ñëîâ), íå ìîæåò ïîäâåðãàòüñÿ ñîìíåíèþ. È ëó÷øå áû óñèëèÿ ó÷åíûõ áûëè íàïðàâëåíû íà åãî è ñâîå ñîâåðøåíñòâîâàíèå, ÷åì íà ïîèñê äîêàçàòåëüñòâ åãî áåñïîëåçíîñòè.
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Àíøèíà Ìàðãàðèòà Áåíèàìèíîâíà, äèðåêòîð êëèíèêè ÔåðòèÌåä, ã. Ìîñêâà.
Âèöå-ïðåçèäåíò Ðîññèéñêîé Àññîöèàöèè Ðåïðîäóêöèè ×åëîâåêà, ×ëåí ñîâåòà ESHRE.
Çàïèñü íà êîíñóëüòàöèþ: (495) 504-15-26, (499) 165-70-77
Äèàãíîñòèêà è ëå÷åíèå âñåõ âèäîâ áåñïëîäèÿ ìåòîäàìè ÝÊÎ, ÈÊÑÈ è äð. Ãåíåòè÷åñêàÿ äèàãíîñòèêà è ïðîôèëàêòèêà íàñëåäñòâåííûõ çàáîëåâàíèé. Äîíîðñêèå ïðîãðàììû. Ñóððîãàòíîå ìàòåðèíñòâî. Áàíê ïîëîâûõ êëåòîê. Âåäåíèå ïàöèåíòîâ îò íà÷àëà ëå÷åíèÿ áåñïëîäèÿ äî ðîäîâ.
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Ñòàðûé 08.07.2010, 12:03
Àâàòàð äëÿ Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé
Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5,200
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,529 ðàç(à) çà 1,416 ñîîáùåíèé
Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Anshina Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Äîëãîå âðåìÿ ãðóïïà Âåðëèíñêîãî áûëà ïðàêòè÷åñêè åäèíñòâåííîé, êîòîðàÿ âûïîëíÿëà ÏÃÄ. È äî íàñòîÿùåãî âðåìåíè îñòàåòñÿ ýêñïåðòíîé, ïîñêîëüêó äåëàåò ýòèõ ïðîöåäóð â íåñêîëüêî ðàç áîëüøå, ÷åì âñå îñòàëüíûå öåíòðû ìèðà âìåñòå âçÿòûå.
Óâ. Ìàðãàðèòà Áåíèàìèíîâíà.
ß íå ñîáèðàþñü îñïàðèâàòü ïðèîðèòåòû â ýòîé îáëàñòè è íà ïðîòÿæåíèè âñåé äèñêóññèè ïðèäåðæèâàþñü èìåííî òàêîé ïîçèöèè. Îäíàêî ìíå êàæåòñÿ ñòðàííûì çàÿâëåíèå î òîì (íå ïðèìåíèòåëüíî ê ÏÃÄ, ãðóïïå Âåðëèíñêîãî), ÷òî åäèíñòâåííûì ýêñïåðòîì â ëþáîé îáëàñòè ÿâëÿåòñÿ òîò, êòî ýòî äåéñòâèå, îïûò, ïðîöåäóðó, óñëóãó è âûïîëíÿåò.
Èìåííî ïî ýòîé ïðè÷èíå âî âñåõ ñòðàíàõ (è â íàøåé â òîì ÷èñëå) ñîçäàþòñÿ àíòèìîíîïîëíûå ñëóæáû, êîòîðûå ðàçäåëÿþò ôóíêöèè èñïîëíåíèÿ è êîíòðîëÿ.
Èìåííî ïîýòîìó â ïîëèòè÷åñêîì óñòðîéñòâå ëþáîé ñòðàíû ñóùåñòâóåò ðàçäåëåíèå íà çàêîíîäàòåëüíóþ, èñïîëíèòåëüíóþ è ñóäåáíóþ âëàñòè.
È òàê â ëþáîé îáëàñòè, âíå çàâèñèìîñòè îò òîãî, î ÷åì èäåò ðå÷ü.
Îòñóòñòâèå êîíêóðåíöèè è íåçàâèñèìîãî êîíòðîëÿ íèêîãäà íå ïðèâîäèëî íè ê ÷åìó õîðîøåìó. Ïðèìåðîâ, êàê Âû ïîíèìàåòå ìîæíî ïðèâåñòè ïðåäîñòàòî÷íî (îïÿòü æå ðå÷ü íå èäåò î êîíêðåòíîé ãðóïïå, óñëóãå, ìåòîäå ëå÷åíèÿ è ò.ä.).
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Ñòàðûé 08.07.2010, 19:34
Ìàðãàðèòà Àíøèíà Ìàðãàðèòà Àíøèíà âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà Áåñïëîäíûé áðàê
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 23.07.2009
Ãîðîä: ã. Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 4,377
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 4
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,724 ðàç(à) çà 1,681 ñîîáùåíèé
Ìàðãàðèòà Àíøèíà ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÌàðãàðèòà Àíøèíà ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÌàðãàðèòà Àíøèíà ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÌàðãàðèòà Àíøèíà ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÌàðãàðèòà Àíøèíà ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÌàðãàðèòà Àíøèíà ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÌàðãàðèòà Àíøèíà ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò boris Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Îäíàêî ìíå êàæåòñÿ ñòðàííûì çàÿâëåíèå î òîì (íå ïðèìåíèòåëüíî ê ÏÃÄ, ãðóïïå Âåðëèíñêîãî), ÷òî åäèíñòâåííûì ýêñïåðòîì â ëþáîé îáëàñòè ÿâëÿåòñÿ òîò, êòî ýòî äåéñòâèå, îïûò, ïðîöåäóðó, óñëóãó è âûïîëíÿåò.
Âàøå æåëàíèå âî ÷òî áû òî íè ñòàëî äîêàçàòü (÷òî?) è ïîó÷àòü ìåíÿ èçóìëÿåò. Ýêñïåðò ïîòîìó è ýêñïåðò, ÷òî èìååò áîëüøå âñåõ îïûòà, çíàíèé è ðåçóëüòàòîâ, à íå ïîòîìó ÷òî îñòàëüíûì (â äàííîì ñëó÷àå) çàïðåòèëè äåëàòü òî æå ñàìîå. Âñå îñòàëüíîå èç íàïèñàííîãî (ïðî ÔÀÑ, ðàçäåëåíèå âëàñòåé è ò.ä.) íå áîëåå, ÷åì äåìàãîãè÷åñêèå ñåíòåíöèè. Íà ìîé âçãëÿä, íåäîñòîéíûå ôèãóðèðîâàòü â ëþáîé äèñêóññèè.[/quote]
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Àíøèíà Ìàðãàðèòà Áåíèàìèíîâíà, äèðåêòîð êëèíèêè ÔåðòèÌåä, ã. Ìîñêâà.
Âèöå-ïðåçèäåíò Ðîññèéñêîé Àññîöèàöèè Ðåïðîäóêöèè ×åëîâåêà, ×ëåí ñîâåòà ESHRE.
Çàïèñü íà êîíñóëüòàöèþ: (495) 504-15-26, (499) 165-70-77
Äèàãíîñòèêà è ëå÷åíèå âñåõ âèäîâ áåñïëîäèÿ ìåòîäàìè ÝÊÎ, ÈÊÑÈ è äð. Ãåíåòè÷åñêàÿ äèàãíîñòèêà è ïðîôèëàêòèêà íàñëåäñòâåííûõ çàáîëåâàíèé. Äîíîðñêèå ïðîãðàììû. Ñóððîãàòíîå ìàòåðèíñòâî. Áàíê ïîëîâûõ êëåòîê. Âåäåíèå ïàöèåíòîâ îò íà÷àëà ëå÷åíèÿ áåñïëîäèÿ äî ðîäîâ.
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Ñòàðûé 02.12.2011, 23:01
Àâàòàð äëÿ Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé
Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5,200
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,529 ðàç(à) çà 1,416 ñîîáùåíèé
Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Äëÿ èíòåðåñóþùèõñÿ.
Âðåìÿ èäåò è ïðîøåë î÷åðåäíîé êîíãðåññ ASRM (àìåðèêàíñêîé àññîöèàöèè ðåïðîäóêòèâíîé ìåäèóöèíû)
×òî èíòåðåñíîãî ïî èíòåðåñóùåé íàñ òåìå:
Äàííûå ASRM_2011_F&S_Vol. 96., No. 3, Supplement, September 2011
Öåëûé øêâàë äîêëàäîâ è ïîñòåðíûõ ñîîáùåíèé (â îñíîâíîì íåáîëüøèå è ðåòðîñïåêòèâíûå, íî òàê âñåãäà áûâàåò â íà÷àëå ïóòè!) îòíîñèòåëüíî ñðàâíèòåëüíîé ãåíîìíîé ãèáðèäèçàöèè, ãäå ïðè ïîìîùè ìèêðî÷èïîâ èññëåäîâàëèñü âñå õðîìîñîìû. Áûëè è ñîîáùåíèÿ ïî ïîâîäó ÏÃÄ , íî óæå íå ñòîëü îïòèìèñòè÷íûå. Ïðèâåäó íà ìîé âçãëÿä íàèáîëåå èíòåðåñíûå:
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Ìàëü÷èêè äåâî÷êè ïðè ÏÃÄ
Ðàñïðåäåëåíèå áëàñòîöèñò ïî ïîëó îäèíàêîâîå.
Êîëè÷åñòâî áëàñòîöèñò ËÓ×ØÅÃÎ êà÷åñòâà áîëüøå ìàëü÷èêîâ.
Ïðè ïåðåíîñå äâóõ ýìáðèîíîâ è íàñòóïëåíèè áåðåìåííîñòè âåðîÿòíîñòü äâóõ ìàëü÷èêîâ âûøå. Ïî ýóïëîèäèè ðàçíèöû ïî ïîëó íåò.
(BATTLE OF THE SEXES AT EMBRYO TRANSFER (ET). B. Hodes- Wertz, A. Adler, C. Mullin. NYU Fertility Center, New York, NY.)
Èññëåäîâàíèå îäíîíóêëåîòèäíûõ ïîëèìîðôèçìîâ 23 õðîìîñîì ÄÍÊ-ìèêðî÷èïàìè äëÿ ÏÃÄ è ðåçóëüòàòû êëèíè÷åñêèõ áåðåìåííîñòåé ïðè èññëåäîâàíèè áëàñòîìåðîâ è áëàñòîöèñò.
Àíåóïëîèäèÿ íàáëþäàëîñü â 59% ó ýìáðèîíîâ 3-ãî äíÿ (ãðóïïà D3)è 41% ó ýìáðèîíîâ 5 äíÿ(ãðóïïà D5).
×àñòîòà êëèíè÷åñêèõ áåðåìåííîñòåé áûëà çíà÷èòåëüíî âûøå (86%, ð <0,05) â D5 ãðóïïå ïî ñðàâíåíèþ ñ ãðóïïîé D3 (65%). ×àñòîòà ïðåðûâàíèé â D3 è D5 ãðóïïàõ 6% è 9% ñîîòâåòñòâåííî ñòàòèñòè÷åñêè íå ðàçëè÷àëàñü.
(23-CHROMOSOME SINGLE NUCLEOTIDE POLYMORPHISM (SNP) MICROARRAY PREIMPLANTATION GENETIC SCREEN- ING (PGS) ON BLASTOCYSTS, VERSUS DAY-3 EMBRYOS, RESULTS IN SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER CLINICAL PREGNANCY RATES.
A. T. Benner, P. R. Brezina, L. Du, C. Chipko, M. Gunn, W. G. Kearns. Genetics, Center for Preimplantation Genetics, LabCorp, Rockville, MD; Gynecology and Obstetrics, Johns Hopkins Medical Institu- tions, Baltimore, MD; Medical College of Virginia, Richmond, VA; Gyne- cology and Obstetrics, Genetics, Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions, Center for Preimplantation Genetics, LabCorp, Rockville, MD.)
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×àñòîòà DE NOVO (âíîâü âîçíèêøèõ) è óíàñëåäîâàííûõ àíåóïëîèäèé ó ýìáðèîíîâ îò ðîäèòåëåé ñ èçâåñòíûìè õðîìîñîìíûìè òðàíñëîêàöèÿìè.
Òîëüêî ó 17% áûëè äèàãíîñòèðîâàíû íåñáàëàíñèðîâàííûå òðàíñëîêàöèè, êîòîðûå áûëè ðåçóëüòàòîì ñåãðåãàöèè èçâåñòíûõ ðîäèòåëüñêîé òðàíñëîêàöèé. Èç íèõ ñåãðåãàíòîâ, 44 áûëè òðàíñëîêàöèè îòöîâñêîãî ïðîèñõîæäåíèÿ è 36 áûëè òðàíñëîêàöèè ìàòåðèíñêîãî ïðîèñõîæäåíèÿ.
Èç âñåõ ýìáðèîíîâ â 37% ñëó÷àåâ áûëè õðîìîñîìíî ñáàëàíñèðîâàííû, à â 32% áûëè ãåíåòè÷åñêè ñáàëàíñèðîâàíû äëÿ òðàíñëîêàöèè ðîäèòåëüñêèõ õðîìîñîì, íî îáëàäàëè äðóãèìè àíåóïëîèäèÿìè. È 14% îáðàçöîâ íå óäàëîñü îöåíèòü èç-çà ñèëüíîé ôðàãìåíòàöèè ýìáðèîíîâ. ×àñòîòà íàñòóïëåíèÿ áåðåìåííîñòè â öèêëå ÝÊÎ ñîñòàâèëà 58%.
ÂÛÂÎÄ: Äèàãíîñòèêà æèçíåñïîñîáíûõ ýìáðèîíîâ ïî 23 õðîìîñîìàì SNP ìèêðî÷èïàìè ÏÃÄ / ÏÃÑ ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïåðñïåêòèâíîé ñòðàòåãèåé äëÿ ïàöèåíòîâ ñ èçâåñòíûìè ãåíåòè÷åñêèìè òðàíñëîêàöèÿìè. Êðîìå òîãî ðîäèòåëüñêèå òðàíñëîêàöèè ìîãóò áûòü íåçàâèñèìûìè ôàêòîðàìè ðèñêà äëÿ íîâûõ àíåóïëîèäèé.


(THE RATE OF DE NOVO AND INHERITED ANEUPLOIDY AS DETERMINED BY 23-CHROMOSOME SINGLE NUCLEOTIDE POLYMORPHISM MICROARRAY (SNP) IN EMBRYOS GENERATED FROM PARENTS WITH KNOWN CHROMOSOMAL TRANSLOCATIONS.
L. Du, P. R. Brezina, A. T. Benner, B. B. Swelstad, M. Gunn, W. G. Kearns. Genetics, Center for Preimplantation Genetics, LabCorp, Rockville, MD; Gynecology and Obstetrics, Johns Hopkins Medical Institu- tions, Baltimore, MD; Gynecology and Obstetrics, Genetics, Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions, Center for Preimplantation Genetics, LabCorp, Rock- ville, MD.)


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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #35  
Ñòàðûé 02.12.2011, 23:05
Àâàòàð äëÿ Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé
Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5,200
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,529 ðàç(à) çà 1,416 ñîîáùåíèé
Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Áèîïñèÿ òðîôýêòîäåðìû áîëåå íàäåæíûé ìåòîä ÏÃÑ ÷åì áèîïñèÿ áëàñòîìåðà. ßâëÿåòñÿ áîëåå áåçîïàñíîé è çíà÷èòåëüíî ñíèæàåò êîëè÷åñòâî (â òðè ðàçà) ýìáðèîíîâ ñ íåàäåêâàòíîé îöåíêîé ïðè ÏÃÄ.
TROPHECTODERM BIOPSY FOR SINGLE-GENE DISORDER PREIMPLANTATION GENETIC DIAGNOSIS (PGD) IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE RELIABLE THAN DAY 3 BLASTOMERE BIOPSY. E. J. Forman, K. M. Ferry, N.-A. Gueye, R. D. Smith, J. Stevens, R. T. Scott, Jr. Reproductive Endocrinology & Infertility, Reproductive Medicine Asso- ciates of New Jersey, Morristown, NJ; Obstetrics, Gynecology and Repro- ductive Sciences, UMDNJ-Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, New Brunswick, NJ; Fertility Laboratories of Colorado, Lone Tree, CO.

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Íåáîëüøîå ðåòðîñïåêòèâíîå èññëåäîâàíèå….
Ñðàâíèòåëüíàÿ ãåíîìíàÿ ãèáðèäèçàöèÿ ó ïàöèåíòîê ñòàðøåãî ðåïðîäóêòèâíîãî âîçðàñòà ïîçâîëÿåò çíà÷èòåëüíî ïîâûñèòü ýôôåêòèâíîñòü ýêî.


PREIMPLANTATION GENETIC SCREENING USING ARRAY CGH IMPROVES CLINICAL PREGNANCY RATES IN AMA PATIENTS. J. F. Cuzzi, J. R. Alegretti, A. Harutunian, M. Hughes, P. Hassun. Genetics, Genesis Genetics Brasil, Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil; Human Reproduction, Hun- tington Center of Reproductive Medicine, Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil; Genetics, Genesis Genetics Institute, Detroit, MI.
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Øàãè ê ñíèæåíèþ ìíîãîïëîäèÿ â ïðîãðàììàõ ÂÐÒ


Âûáîð îäíîé íîðìàëüíîé áëàñòîöèñòû ïîñëå àíàëèçà òðîôýêòîäåðìû aCGH 24-õ õðîìîñîì â òå÷åíèå 24 ÷àñîâ.

CONCLUSION: Our data suggests that selecting a single chromosomally normal blastocyst for transfer by the array CGH screening of all 24 chromo- somes may increase clinical pregnancy rates while reducing multiple pregnancies.
Çàêëþ÷åíèå: Ïðîâåäåíèå aCGH ïîâûøàåò ÷àñòîòó íàñòóïëåíèÿ áåðåìåííîñòè è ñíèæàåò ÷àñòîòó ìíîãîïëîäíûõ áåðåìåííîñòåé.

SELECTION OF A SINGLE CHROMOSOMALLY NORMAL BLASTOCYST FOR TRANSFER BY ARRAY CGH SCREENING OF 24 CHROMOSOMES OF TROPHECTODERM CELLS DERIVED FROM BLASTOCYST BIOPSY WITHIN 24 HOURS. Z. Yang, J. Liu, S. Salem, R. D. Salem. Pacific Reproductive Center, Torrance, CA; Beijing Jiaen Hospital, Beijing, China.

Ïðîäîëæåíèå íèæå
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #36  
Ñòàðûé 02.12.2011, 23:09
Àâàòàð äëÿ Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé
Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5,200
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,529 ðàç(à) çà 1,416 ñîîáùåíèé
Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
À ýòî èññëåäîâàíèå ðàññìàòðèâàåò ìåíåå èíâàçèâíîå (ìåíåå òðàâìàòè÷íîå) èññëåäîâàíèþ ýìáðèîíà.
Ïåðåêðåñòíîå èññëåäîâàíèå. Ïîêàçàíà ïðàêòè÷åñêè 100% êîððåëÿöèÿ â äèàãíîñòèêå ïðè èññëåäîâàíèè êëåòîê âíóòðåííåé êëåòî÷íîé ìàññû ýìáðèîíà è êëåòîê òðîôýêòîäåðìû.

FISH REANALYSIS OF INNER CELL MASS AND TROPHECTO- DERM SAMPLES OF PREVIOUSLY ARRAY-CGH SCREENED BLASTOCYSTS REVEALS HIGH ACCURACY OF DIAGNOSIS AND NO SIGN OF MOSAICISM OR PREFERENTIAL ALLOCATION. A. Capalbo, G. Wright, L. Themaat, T. Elliott, L. Rienzi, Z. P. Nagy. GENERA, Reproductive Medicine, Rome, Italy; Reproductive Biology Associates, Atlanta, GA.
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SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN MISCARRIAGES AFTER PREIM- PLANTATION GENETIC DIAGNOSIS (PGD) FOR RECURRENT PREGNANCY LOSS USING ARRAY COMPARATIVE GENOME HY- BRIDIZATION (Array CGH).
J. Grifo, S. Ghadir, B. Kaplan, C. A. Laskin, M. Glassner, S. Munn_e. NYU Fertility Center, New York University, New York, NY; ART Reproductive Center, Beverly Hills, CA; Fertility Centers of Illinois, Highland Park, IL; LifeQuest Centre for Reproductive Medicine, Toronto, ON; Main Line Fertility and Reproductive Medicine, Bryn Mawr, PA; Reprogenetics, Livingston, NJ.
Ìóëüòèöåíòðîâîå ðåòðîñïåêòèâíîå èññëåäîâàíèå

REPORT ON FIRST 54 PATIENTS UNDERGOING PREIMPLANTATION GENETIC DIAGNOSIS FOR GENETIC DISORDERS TOGETHER WITH 24 CHROMOSOME ANEUPLOIDY SCREENING USING MICROARRAYS.
M. Rabinowitz, M. Hill, D. Potter, N. Wemmer, J. Keller, G. Gemelos. Gene Security Network, Redwood City, CA; HRC Fertility, Laguna Hills, CA.
Ïðîñïåêòèâíîå íåðàíäîìèçèðîâàííîå èññëåäîâàíèå

Îáå ðàáîòû ñ íåáîëüøèìè ãðóïïàìè äåìîíñòðèðóþò óâåëè÷åíèå ÷àñòîòû èìïëàíòàöèè ýìáðèîíîâ ïîñëå äèàãíîñòèêè ñ èñïîëüçîâàíèåì ìèêðî÷èïîâ CGH (ñðàâí. ãåíîìíîé ãèáðèäèçàöèè)
Ïðîäîëæåíèå íèæå
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 02.12.2011, 23:11
Àâàòàð äëÿ Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé
Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5,200
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,529 ðàç(à) çà 1,416 ñîîáùåíèé
Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Íó è íà “äåñåðò”
Èññëåäîâàíèå, êîòîðîå îòìå÷åíî ïðèçîì ASRM

(îäíî èç 7 â íîìèíàöèè è îäíî èç 976 íà ASRM)

Fertility and Sterility [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ] , Page S2, September 2011
Cleavage stage embryo biopsy significantly impairs embryonic reproductive potential while blastocyst biopsy does not: a novel paired analysis of cotransferred biopsied and non-biopsied sibling embryos
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ], [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ], [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ], [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ], [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ], [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ] Jr.
Objective

Recent advances in molecular genetics provide the opportunity to more accurately assess the reproductive potential of embryos. These technologies require embryonic DNA which necessitates embryo biopsy. Amongst the most critical questions surrounding these technologies are the risks associated with embryo biopsy itself, and whether biopsy is safest at the cleavage or blastocyst stage. This study uses a novel paired design to accurately assess the impact of biopsy on day 3 and day 5 of development.
Design Paired randomized controlled trial.
Materials and Methods Patients received routine care inclusive of embryo selection. Once the 2 best embryos were selected for transfer, one was randomly selected for biopsy and the other to control. The embryos were then transferred together. With resulting pregnancies, DNA fingerprinting of the conceptus was used to determine whether it was derived from the biopsied (self) or non-biopsied (sibling) embryo. Analysis was done using a paired test of proportions.
Results 103 patients were studied - 32 at the cleavage stage and 71 at the blastocyst stage. There was a dramatic reduction in implantation rates amongst biopsied cleavage stage embryos compared to the non-biopsied controls (31% vs 53%;P=0.035) - a loss of reproductive potential of more than one third. In contrast, the implantation rate of biopsied and non-biopsied blastocysts was equivalent (52% vs 54%; P=0.80).
Conclusion Trophectoderm (TE) biopsy of blastocysts does not adversely impact embryonic reproductive potential. In contrast, biopsy at the cleavage stage was clearly detrimental with a 22% reduction in implantation rate. Optimizing clinical outcomes following PGD might be best realized by performing biopsies at the blastocyst stage. Potential explanations as to why blastocyst biopsy is safe when cleavage stage biopsy is not include the removal of a smaller proportion of the embryo, certainty that only TE cells are biopsied, and better embryonic tolerance of manipulation after genomic activation.

Äèçàéí: Ïàðíîå ðàíäîìèçèðîâàíííîå ïðîñïåêòèâíîå èññëåäîâàíèå. Ïåðåíîñèëè îäèí áèîïñèðîâàííûé è îäèí íåáèîïñèðîâàííûé ýìáðèîí íà ñòàäèè áëàñòîöèñòû. Çàòåì ïðîâîäèëàñü ÄÍÊ-èäåíòèôèêàöèÿ ïëîäîâ ïîñëå íàñòóïëåíèÿ áåðåìåííîñòè
Ðåçóëüòàòû: ×àñòîòà áåðåìåííîñòè áûëà 31% (ïîñëå áèîïñèè íà 3-é äåíü) ïðîòèâ 53% áåç áèîïñèè. ×àñòîòà áåðåìåííîñòè ýìáðèîíîâ áèîïñèðîâàííûõ íà 5- äåíü (áèîïñèÿ òðîôýêòîäåðìû) áûëà 52% ïðîòèâ 54% íåáèîïñèðîâàííûõ.
Âûâîäû:Áèîïñèÿ òðîôýêòîäåðìû áëàñòîöèñòû íå îêàçûâàåò íåáëàãîïðèÿòíîãî âîçäåéñòâèÿ íà ðåïðîäóêòèâíûé ïîòåíöèàë ýìáðèîíà, â îòëè÷èè îò áèîïñèè ýìáðèîíà íà 3-é äåíü, ãäå îòìå÷åíî 22% ñíèæåíèå èìïëàíòàöèè.


Èññëåäîâàíèå íàãëÿäíî ïîêàçûâàåò, ÷òî ïðèìåíÿåìûå ñåãîäíÿ èññëåäîâàíèÿ ýìáðèîíîâ òðåòüåãî äíÿ íå òîëüêî íå óëó÷øàþò ðåçóëüòàòû ýêî, íî è çíà÷èòåëüíî èõ ñíèæàþò.
Íîâûå ïîäõîäû â èññëåäîâàíèè ýìáðèîíîâ ïîçâîëÿò óæå â áëèæàéøåì áóäóþùåì ïðîâîäèòü ìåíåå òðàâìàòè÷íûå èññëåäîâàíèÿ, ïîçâîëÿþùèå ïîâûñèòü ýôôåêòèâíîñòü ïðîãðàìì ýêñòðàêîðïîðàëüíîãî îïëîäîòâîðåíèÿ.
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Ñòàðûé 09.12.2012, 22:31
Àâàòàð äëÿ Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé
Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5,200
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,529 ðàç(à) çà 1,416 ñîîáùåíèé
Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåÁîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Áîðèñ Êàìåíåöêèé Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
À ýòî èññëåäîâàíèå ðàññìàòðèâàåò ìåíåå èíâàçèâíîå (ìåíåå òðàâìàòè÷íîå) èññëåäîâàíèþ ýìáðèîíà.
Ïåðåêðåñòíîå èññëåäîâàíèå. Ïîêàçàíà ïðàêòè÷åñêè 100% êîððåëÿöèÿ â äèàãíîñòèêå ïðè èññëåäîâàíèè êëåòîê âíóòðåííåé êëåòî÷íîé ìàññû ýìáðèîíà è êëåòîê òðîôýêòîäåðìû.

FISH REANALYSIS OF INNER CELL MASS AND TROPHECTO- DERM SAMPLES OF PREVIOUSLY ARRAY-CGH SCREENED BLASTOCYSTS REVEALS HIGH ACCURACY OF DIAGNOSIS AND NO SIGN OF MOSAICISM OR PREFERENTIAL ALLOCATION. A. Capalbo, G. Wright, L. Themaat, T. Elliott, L. Rienzi, Z. P. Nagy. GENERA, Reproductive Medicine, Rome, Italy; Reproductive Biology Associates, Atlanta, GA.
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SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN MISCARRIAGES AFTER PREIM- PLANTATION GENETIC DIAGNOSIS (PGD) FOR RECURRENT PREGNANCY LOSS USING ARRAY COMPARATIVE GENOME HY- BRIDIZATION (Array CGH).
J. Grifo, S. Ghadir, B. Kaplan, C. A. Laskin, M. Glassner, S. Munn_e. NYU Fertility Center, New York University, New York, NY; ART Reproductive Center, Beverly Hills, CA; Fertility Centers of Illinois, Highland Park, IL; LifeQuest Centre for Reproductive Medicine, Toronto, ON; Main Line Fertility and Reproductive Medicine, Bryn Mawr, PA; Reprogenetics, Livingston, NJ.
Ìóëüòèöåíòðîâîå ðåòðîñïåêòèâíîå èññëåäîâàíèå

REPORT ON FIRST 54 PATIENTS UNDERGOING PREIMPLANTATION GENETIC DIAGNOSIS FOR GENETIC DISORDERS TOGETHER WITH 24 CHROMOSOME ANEUPLOIDY SCREENING USING MICROARRAYS.
M. Rabinowitz, M. Hill, D. Potter, N. Wemmer, J. Keller, G. Gemelos. Gene Security Network, Redwood City, CA; HRC Fertility, Laguna Hills, CA.
Ïðîñïåêòèâíîå íåðàíäîìèçèðîâàííîå èññëåäîâàíèå

Îáå ðàáîòû ñ íåáîëüøèìè ãðóïïàìè äåìîíñòðèðóþò óâåëè÷åíèå ÷àñòîòû èìïëàíòàöèè ýìáðèîíîâ ïîñëå äèàãíîñòèêè ñ èñïîëüçîâàíèåì ìèêðî÷èïîâ CGH (ñðàâí. ãåíîìíîé ãèáðèäèçàöèè)
Ïðîäîëæåíèå íèæå
Ñ íîÿáðÿ 2012 ãîäà êëèíèêà ÀÂÀ-ÏÅÒÅÐ, ïîêà åäèíñòâåííàÿ â Ðîññèè, ïðîâîäèò CGH èññëåäîâàíèå ýìáðèîíîâ. Äîñòóïíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ î ìåòîäå ìîæíî ïðî÷èòàòü [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ].
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