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çäåñü ÷óòü áîëåå ÷åòêî ìîå íåäîóìåíèå
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2. Ïî÷åìó ó 95% íàñåëåíèÿ íåò àâèòàìèíîçà (ãèïîâèòàìèíîçà)? 3. ß íàñòîÿòåëüíî ïðîøó (â ðåàëå áû ïðîñòî ïîòðåáîâàë) âàñ îòâåòèòü êîðîòêî, äëÿ ññûëêè äîñòàòî÷íî îäíîé ñòðîêè. Âàøè íàâûêè ìíîãîñòðî÷íî ïèñàòü âîêðóã äà îêîëî íàìè ïîäìå÷åíû. 4. Âû òàê è íå îòâåòèëè íà âîïðîñ, ïî÷åìó âû ñ÷èòàåòå âàëèäíûì èññëåäîâàíèå, ãäå ñðàâíèâàåòñÿ ñîäåðæàíèå âèòàìèíîâ â ïëîäàõ ðàñòåíèé òîëüêî â âûáîðêå äâóõ óðîæàåâ. 5. Èçâîëüòå îòâå÷àòü ïî ñóòè çàäàííûõ âîïðîñîâ. Ôîðóì íàø, à íå âàø. Íà ñàéòå Âèçèîí ìîæåòå òðåïàòü âîêðóã äà îêîëî ñêîëü óãîäíî. |
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Ïîýòîìó, ïîêà íå áóäåò ÷åòêèõ è òî÷íûõ äîêàçàòåëüñòâ, ÷òî îò ÁÀÄîâ íå ìîæåò áûòü âðåäà, äî òåõ ñàìûõ ïîð ïîðÿäî÷íûå âðà÷è íå áóäóò íàçíà÷àòü ÁÀÄû íè äëÿ ëå÷åíèÿ, íè äëÿ ïðîôèëàêòèêè, íè äëÿ "îáùåãî îçäîðîâëåíèÿ îðãàíèçìà". ×òî êàñàåòñÿ ïîáî÷íûõ ýôôåêòîâ îò ëåêàðñòâ, òî è òóò Âû ïðàâû. Ïîáî÷íûå ýôôåêòû îò ëåêàðñòâ, ðàçðåøåííûõ ê ïðèìåíåíèþ, ñóùåñòâóþò. Íî ðèñê èõ ðàçâèòèÿ â ðàçû è ðàçû ìåíüøå, ÷åì ðèñê îò áîëåçíè, ïðè êîòîðûõ îíè ïðèìåíÿþòñÿ è îò åå âîçìîæíûõ îñëîæíåíèé. ------ À ýòî ïðîñòî äëÿ îáùåãî ðàçâèòèÿ, ÷òîáû Âû õîòü ÷óòü-÷óòü ïðåäñòàâëÿëè, î ÷åì Âû ãîâîðèòå, ïîòîìó ÷òî Âû ñêàçàëè ãëóïîñòü. Òàê âîò, èìóííàÿ ñèñòåìà îðãàíèçìà ÷åëîâåêà óñòðîåíà òàêèì îáðàçîì, ÷òî îðãàíèçì ðàñïîçíàåò è óíè÷òîæàåò òîëüêî òå âèðóñû è áàêòåðèè, ñ êîòîðûìè îí çíàêîì. Ýòî îçíà÷àåò, ÷òî ëèáî îðãàíèçì ýòèìè âîçáóäèòåëÿìè óæå îäíàæäû ïåðåáîëåë, ëèáî îðãàíèçì ( ÷åëîâåê) ïðèâèò ïðîòèâ ýòèõ âîçáóäèòåëåé. |
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-ïîêà áåçîïàñíîñòü è ýôôåêòèâíîñòü ñðåäñòâà íå äîêàçàííà äàííîå ñðåäñòâî íå ìîæåò ñ÷èòàòüñÿ áåçîïàñíûì è ýôôåêòèâíûì, ñîîòâåòñòâåííî íå ìîæåò ïðèìåíÿòüñÿ äëÿ ïðîôèëàêòèêè èëè ëå÷åíèÿ!!! -äîêàçûâàåò òîò, êòî óòâåðæäàåò îá ýôôåêòèâíîñòè è áåçîïàñíîñòè, à íå òîò, êòî ïîäâåðãàåò ýòî ñîìíåíèþ-â ìåäèöèíå ýòî òàê-âðà÷ íå íàçíà÷èò êàïóñíûé ëèñò êàê ïðîôèëàêòèêó çàáîëåâàíèé èëè êàê èõ ëå÷åíèå òîëüêî ïîòîìó, ÷òî íåýôôåêòèâíîñòü êàïóñòíîãî ëèñòà èëè çàÿ÷üåãî ïîìåòà, óðèíîòåðàïèè, êàëîòåðàïèè è ò.ä. íå äîêàçàííà; -íàäåþñü Âû ïîíèìàåòå, ÷òî íå ïîâîä ìàçàòü ðàíó ïîìåòîì òîëüêî ïîòîìó, ÷òî íåýôôåêòèâíîñòü íåäîêàçàííà?! -åñëè Âû ïðèõîäèòå ê âðà÷ó ñ ïðîáëåìîé, îí íàçíà÷àåò Âàì ëå÷åíèå, ïðè Âàøåì òðåáîâàíèè ÎÍ îáÿçàí ïðåäîñòàâèòü èíôîðìàöèþ î áåçîïàñíîñòè è ýôôåêòèâíîñòè, à íå Âû ïðè íàëè÷èè ñîìíåíèÿ â ýòîì(èëè ïàöèåíò äîëæåí áåãàòü è èñêàòü ñòàòüè, ÷òî ýòî ëå÷åíèå íåýôôåêòèâíî???òîãäà òàê ïî Âàøåé ëîãèêå ïîëó÷àåòñÿ); òåì áîëåå, ÷òî èññëåäîâàíèÿ çàñëóæèâàþùèå äîâåðèÿ î÷åíü äîðîãîñòîÿùèå(óâåðåííà, ÷òî ïðè æåëàíèè ïðîèçâîäèòåëÿì ÁÀÄîâ óäàëîñü áû íàéòè äåíåæêè äëÿ òàêèõ èññëåäîâàíèé è óáåäèòü ýòèõ ãëóïûõ âðà÷åé â íåîáõîäèìîñòè ïðèìåíåíèÿ) -êñòàòè ýôôåêòèâíîñòü ìíîãèõ ñðåäñòâ äîêàçàííà, íî è ýòî åùå íå ïîâîä èñïîëüçîâàòü äëÿ ëå÷åíèÿ ïðè íàëè÷èè, íàïðèìåð, áîëåå áåçîïàñíîãî, áîëåå ýôôåêòèâíîãî èëè ìåíåå äîðîãîñòîÿùåãî âàðèàíòà: ïðèìåð-ðàíüøå ñèôèëèñ ëå÷èëè ïðåïàðàòàìè éîäà, âèñìóòà, îäíàêî ñåé÷àñ ââèäó íåáåçîïàñíîñòè ýòîãî ëå÷åíèÿ, ïðèñóòñòâèÿ áîëåå êà÷åñòâåííûõ-áîëåå ýôôåêòèâíûõ è áåçîïàñíûõ ñðåäñòâ ñ íåñðàâíèìî ìåíüøèìè ïîáî÷íûìè ýôôåêòèàìè ýòî ëå÷åíèå íå èñïîëüçóåòñÿ; ó÷èòûâàþòñÿ âñå ôàêòîðû-êðîìå ýôôåêòèâíîñòè, áåçîïàñíîñòè, ïîáî÷íûõ ýôôåêòîâ åùå è öåíà!!! À ýòîò âîïðîñ êàê-òî ïëàâíî îïóñêàåòñÿ áàäîâòþõèâàòåëÿìè-ñêîëüêî ìàòåðèàëüíûõ çàòðàò (íåïîíÿòíî çà÷åì) òðàòèò ïîòðåáèòåëü ÁÀÄîâ-ýòî íå ïîâîä ëè äîêàçàòü ýôôåêòèâíîñòü è áåçîïàñíîñòü, êîãäà æåðòâû ëîõîòðîíà, íå èìåÿ âîçìîæíîñòè èëè æåëàíèÿ ðàçîáðàòüñÿ, îòäàþò íåðåäêî ïîñëåäíèå íàêîïëåíèÿ â íàäåæäå íà ×ÓÄÎ è ïñåâäîíàó÷íûå óòâåðæäåíèÿ -â ìåäèöèíå öåíà ýòîãî ìîæåò áûòü î÷åíü äîðîãîé(ïðèìåð ñ òðàãåäèåé òàëèäîìèäà), ïîýòîìó ñëîâîáëóäèå òóò íåïðèåìëèìî îäíîçíà÷íî; åñëè ÷åëîâåê êóøàåò ÁÀÄû, èñêðåííå âåðÿ â íåîáõîäèìîñòü è ïîëüçó èõ ïîãëîùåíèÿ, íå ñìîòðÿ íà òî, ÷òî âðà÷è ôîðóìà ãîâîðÿò î íåäîêàçàííîñòè èõ ýôôåêòèâíîñòè è áåçîïàñíîñòè, ýòî åãî ëè÷íîå äåëî, íî è îòâåòñòâåííîñòü çà ïîñëåäñòâèÿ-íåãàòèâíûå, èëè îòñóòñòâèå îáåùàåìûõ ÁÀÄîâòþõèâàòåëÿìè ýôôåêòîâ âñåöåëî ëåæèò íà íåì âèíèòü êðîìå ñåáÿ íåêîãî |
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Òî ÷òî âðà÷è íå çàíèìàþòñÿ ïðîôèëàêòèêîé è ïðåäóïðåæäåíèåì çàáîëåâàíèé? Ìîãó ëè ÿ ññûëàòüñÿ íà Âàñ? |
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Íàñ÷åò -âòîðîãî: Âû äåéñòâèòåëüíî íå èìååòå íèêàêîãî ïðàâà íà êàêèå-áû òî íè áûëî äîêàçàòåëüñòâà - ïîòîìó êàê Âû íå ïðîèçâîäèòåëü ÁÀÄ, à âñåãî ëèøü îáûêíîâåííûé ðàñïðîñòðàíèòåëü. À åñëè êàêîé-ëèáî èç ÁÀÄîâ ïåðåéäåò â ðååñòð ëåêàðñòâ (áëàãîäàðÿ ñâîåé äîêàçàííîé ýôôåêòèâíîñòè) è áóäåò ïðîäàâàòüñÿ â àïòåêàõ - Âû æå ïîòåðÿåòå ê íåìó âñÿêèé èíòåðåñ, òàê êàê äåíþæêè çà íåãî áîëüøå íå áóäóò ïîïàäàòü ê âàì â êàðìàí. Âîò è ïîëó÷àåòñÿ, ÷òî äîêàçûâàòü ýôôåêòèâíîñòü ÁÀÄ îáùåïðèçíàííûìè ìåòîäàìè Âàì âîâñå íå âûãîäíî. Èíà÷å áû Âàøà êîìïàíèÿ, ðàñïîëàãàÿ äîñòàòî÷íûìè íà òî ñðåäñòâàìè, äàâíî áû ïîïûòàëàñü ïðîâåñòè îáúåêòèâíûå èññëåäîâàíèÿ ïî äîêàçàòåëüñòâó ýôôåêòèâíîñòè ñâîèõ ÁÀÄ. |
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À êàê Âû îáúÿñíèòå, ÷òî èññëåäîâàíèÿ ïðîâîäèëèñü ñ 1988 äî 1994 ãîäà, à âðà÷è îá ýòîì äî ñèõ ïîð çàìàë÷èâàþò. ß ñêàçàë íå âñþ ïðàâäó, à Âû å¸ âîîáùå ñêðûâàëè â òå÷åíèè 14 ëåò. Ñêîëüêî ëþäåé ìîæíî áûëî áû ñïàñòè îò ðàêà. |
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Åñòü äîêàçàòåëüñòâà ýôôåêòèâíîñòè - ïîëó÷àåì ëåêàðñòâî. Íåò äîêàçàòåëüñòâ - ëèáî ïðîäîëæàåì èññëåäîâàòü, ëèáî íà ñâàëêó èñòîðèè. Äîêàçàòåëüñòâà íåýôôåêòèâíîñòè - ïðèìåíèìû òîëüêî ê øèðîêî ðàñïðîñòðàíåííûì ìåòîäàì. Ò.å. åñëè ïðàêòè÷åñêè âåçäå ìíîãî äåñÿòèëåòèé èñïîëüçóþò àñïèðàöèîííîå äðåíèðîâàíèå, à ïîòîì êà÷åñòâåííî äîêàçàëè, ÷òî äðåíàæè âðåäÿò, òî ýòî ïîâîä íå ïðèìåíÿòü äðåíàæè. Âå÷íûé ôîêóñ ïðîäàâöîâ ÁÀÄ (è Vision â òîì ÷èñëå) ïðî òî, ÷òî "÷òî íóæíî äîêàçàòü, ÷òî íàøà ïðîäóêöèÿ íåýôôåêòèâíà" ïîðî÷åí. Äåëî â òîì, ÷òî åñëè ýôôåêòèâíîñòü êàæäîãî ïðåäëîæåíèÿ èçîáðåòàòåëÿ áóäóò ïðîâåðÿòü äðóãèå, òî âðåìåíè íà äåëî íå îñòàíåòñÿ, ïîñêîëüêó "îäèí äóðàê çàäàñò ñòîëüêî âîïðîñîâ, ÷òî âñå ìóäðåöû íå îòâåòÿò". Èñààê Íüþòîí ñàì âûäâèíóë ïðåäïîëîæåíèå, è ñàì åãî äîêàçûâàë. Ïî ïîâîäó ïðîôèëàêòèêè. ß äëÿ ñåáÿ íå äåëþ ìåäèöèíó íà "ïðîôèëàêòèêó" è "ëå÷åíèå". Èáî åñòü âåùè äîêàçàííûå, à åñòü íå äîêàçàííûå. Íàïðèìåð åñòü äàííûå î òîì, ÷òî ïðèåì ïðåïàðàòîâ "À" ñíèæàåò ðèñê âîçíèêíîâåíèÿ ñîñòîÿíèÿ "Â" (ïåðåëîì, èíôàðêò ìèîêàðäà, èíñóëüò, ñìåðòü, òðîìáîòè÷åñêèå îñëîæíåíèÿ è äð.). Ò.å. ïî ìîåìó ìíåíèþ ïðè÷èííî-ñëåäñòâåííàÿ ñâÿçü âûâîäîâ è ðåêîìåíäàöèé îäèíàêîâà êàê äëÿ ëå÷åíèÿ, òàê è äëÿ ïðîôèëàêòèêè. Âû ïðî ñåëåí, à ÿ âàñ ñïðîøó : ìîæåòå ëè âû ïðèâåñòè ðåçóëüòàòû èññëåäîâàíèÿ, ãäå áûëî áû äîêàçàíî, ÷òî äîïîëíèòåëüíûé ïðèåì ñåëåíà ó òàêèõ-òî ïàöèåíòîâ ñîïðîâîæäàâøèéñÿ ïîâûøåíèåì êîíöåíòðàöèè ñåëåíà â êðîâè âûøå öèôðû èêñ, ïî ñðàâíåíèþ ñ òàêèìè æå ïàöèåíòàìè, íå ïðèìåíÿâøèìè ñåëåí, ó êîòîðûõ ñåëåí áûë íèæå öèôðû èêñ, ïðèâîäèò ê óâåëè÷åíèþ ïðîäîëæèòåëüíîñòè æèçíè? Åñëè íåò, òî íå ñòîèò ïåðåäåðãèâàòü è òîðîïèòüñÿ ñ âûâîäàìè. Åñëè ó êîãî-òî íàøëè ðàçíûé ñåëåí ïðè ðàçíîé äëèííå æèçíè, òî ýòî åùå íè î ÷åì íå ãîâîðèò. Âî-ïåðâûõ, çàâèñèìîñòü ìîæåò áûòü âñÿêàÿ, â ìàëîì ÷èñëå è íåëèíåéíàÿ. Õîòÿ ñ çàâèñèìîñòÿìè ó âàñ íå ñêàçàòü ÷òîá õîðîøî. Èññëåäîâàíèÿ ïðî ôðóêòû ñ âèòàìèíàìè äâóõãîäè÷íîé âûáîðêè ìíå â äóøó çàïàëè êàê îáðàçåö. Âî-âòîðûõ ñåëåí ìîæå áûòü è íå ïðè÷åì. Êàê èçâåñòíî âñå èíäåéöû óìèðàþò è ïðè ýòîì äî ñìåðòè îíè åëè ïîòåéòîó. Â-òðåòüèõ, õîðîøèé âîïðîñ - êîíöåíòðàöèÿ ñåëåíà â êðîâè è ïðîäîëæèòåëüíîñòü æèçíè â êàêîì ðîäñòâå? Ýòî ìàìà ñ äî÷êîé, èëè ñåñòðû? Â-÷åòâåðòûõ, ïðåäïîëîæåíèå î òîì, ÷òî äîïîëíèòåëüíûé ïðèåì ñåëåíà äîëæíî èñïðàâèòü êàðòèíó ïðåæäåâðåìåííî, ïîñêîëüêó âìåñòî ñëîâà äîëæåí äîëæíî ñòîÿòü ñëîâî ìîæåò. À âäðóã ëþäÿì â ðåàëüíîñòè íå õâàòàåò êàêîé-íèáóäü ñåëåíòðàíñïîðòàçû, êîòîðàÿ îòâå÷àåò çà óñâîÿåìîñòü ñåëåíà? Â-ïÿòûõ, êàê âû ìîæåòå èñêëþ÷èòü ñèòóàöèþ, ÷òî ó ëþäåé ñ äåôèöèòîì ñåëåíòðàíñïîðòèíàçû äîïîëíèòåëüíûé ïðèåì ñåëåíà ñ öåëüþ long life íå ïðèâåäåò ê îòðàâëåíèþ ñåëåíîì çà ñ÷åò îòñóòñòâèÿ íóæíîãî òðàíñïîðòà? Íå ïðèâåäåò ëè ýòî ñåëåíîâîìó äðèñòîçó, ãîëîâîêðóæåíèÿì íà ýòîì ôîíå, è ïîâûøåíèþ ñìåðòíîñòè çà ñ÷åò óâåëè÷åíèÿ ÷èñëà íåñ÷àñòíûõ ñëó÷àåâ â îáùåñòâåííûõ òóàëåòàõ? Èçâåñòíî, ÷òî óíèòàçíûå òðàâìû îäíè èç ñàìûõ òÿæåëûõ. Â-øåñòûõ: òîðîïûæêà áûë ãîëîäíûé, ïðîãëîòèë óòþã õîëîäíûé. Ó ñåëåíà èìåþòñÿ èçîòîïû. Ýòî ÿ íàïåðåä ïðî êðèêè "ïðèðîäíûé è èñêóññòâåííûé ñåëåí. Òîëüêî ñåëåí Vision ïîëåçåí". Â-ñåäüìûõ. Ñåëåí ìîæåò áûòü è ñâÿçàí ñ äðóãèìè àòîìàìè. Äðóãèõ âåùåñòâ. Â-âîñüìûõ, ñåëåí âîîáùå-òî òîêñè÷åí. The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) testing has found hazardous levels of selenium, up to 200 times greater than the amount stated on the label, in Tropical Orange and Peach Nectar flavors of “Total Body Formula” and Orange/Tangerine flavor of “Total Body Mega Formula.” Testing also revealed elevated levels of chromium in the supplements, up to 17 times greater than the amount stated on the label. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is working with state health departments to identify cases of selenium toxicity associated with the supplements. Total Body Essential Nutrition, Inc, has voluntarily recalled the affected products. CDC urges consumers to throw away all bottles of Total Body Formula Tropical Orange with lot numbers 4016801, 4024801 and 4031801; Total Body Formula Peach Nectar with lot numbers 4016802 and 4031802; and Total Body Mega Formula Orange/Tangerine with lot number 4031803. The company distributed supplements to Alabama, California, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Virginia, and sold them directly over the Internet. Ten of these states have reported cases of selenium toxicity. The human body requires selenium in small amounts, but ingestion of large amounts of selenium or selenium-containing products can be harmful. Symptoms of selenium toxicity vary among individuals and are dependent on a number of factors such as the dose, type and form of selenium ingested, and the length of time the product was used. Symptoms of selenium poisoning can include significant hair loss, muscle cramps, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, joint pain, fatigue, fingernail changes, and blistering skin. Patients have reported that symptoms typically occur within 5 to 10 days after daily ingestion of these supplements begins. After discontinuing use of the product, the symptoms of selenium toxicity may last for several weeks, but should improve eventually without treatment for the poisoning. There is no proven antidote for selenium poisoning. The supplements are considered less likely to cause chromium toxicity because the chromium levels in the supplements are not as elevated. Symptoms of chromium toxicity depend on the dose, type and form of chromium ingested; the length of time the product was used; and other factors. The symptoms can include flushing, rash, dizziness, headache, agitation, confusion, chest pain, gastrointestinal disorders, elevated liver enzymes, muscle breakdown, blood cell problems, and kidney problems. There is no proven antidote for chromium toxicity. CDC advises consumers who have been taking the products and have experienced symptoms should consult a health care professional. Consumers and health care professionals are encouraged to report these symptoms to their local Poison Control Center (1-800-222-1222) or their Department of Health. “Total Body Formula” óæå ïðîâåðèëè. À âàñ? |
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Èòàê. Ñðàâíèëè ñîäåðæàíèå âèòàìèíîâ â 1980 êàêîì-òî ãîäó â 1990 êàêîì-òî. Êàêèå ïëîäû? Ãäå èõ áðàëè? Ìîæåò áûòü ñòîèò äåëàòü âûâîä î òîì, ÷òî ÿáëîêè îò ñòàðûõ ÿáëîíü áåäíåå âèòàìèíàìè? Ìîæåò áûòü ãîä áûë çàñóøëèâ? Ìîæåò áûòü íàîáîðîò, ñíà÷àëî ìåíüøå, à ïîòîì áîëüøå (íó òèïà ÿáëîíè çàïàñàþòñÿ, à ïîòîì âûñòðåëèâàþò)? |
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Results The mean serum selenium level was 125.6 ng/mL. The multivariate adjusted hazard ratios comparing the highest ( 130.39 ng/mL) with the lowest (< 117.31 ng/mL) serum selenium level tertile were 0.83 (95% confidence interval [CI], 0.72-0.96) for all-cause mortality, 0.69 (95% CI, 0.53-0.90) for cancer mortality, and 0.94 (95% CI, 0.77-1.16) for cardiovascular mortality. However, based on spline regression models, the association between serum selenium levels and all-cause and cancer mortality was nonlinear, with an inverse association at low selenium levels (< 130 ng/mL) and a modest increase in mortality at high selenium levels (> 150 ng/mL). There was no association between serum selenium levels and cardiovascular mortality. Âàì ïðåæäå ÷åì ÷òî-ëèáî ïèñàòü íå ìåøàëî áû ïîñìîòðåòü â ñëîâàðü è ïîèíòåðåñîâàòüñÿ êàê ïåðåâîäèòñÿ ñëîâî modest. Èòàê, ïî âàøåìó óòâåðæäåíèþ, modest - ýòî ñêðîìíûé. Íóíó. Íàïîìíþ, ÷òî modest èìååò íåñêîëüêî çíà÷åíèé. Ïåðâûé æå Ìþëëåð íà ìîåì ñòîëå ãîâîðèò î çíà÷åíèÿõ "ñêðîìíûé , óìåðåííûé, áëàãîïðèñòîéíûé". Çíàåòå, ïîâûøåíèå ñìåðòíîñòè øòóêà òàêàÿ. Êîíêðåòíîìó ÷åëîâåêó, êîòîðîãî ýòî êîñíåòñÿ, áóäåò âñå ðàâíî, ÷òî ìîäåñò â âèäå ñëåãêà, ÷òî ìîäåñò â ñìûñëå óìåðåííî. Ñïàñèáî ñåëåíó ïðîèçâîäñòâà Vision. Ðîäñòâåííèêè íà ïàñõó íàâåñòÿò. |
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Åñëè ÷åñòíî, òî ïîñëå òàêèõ àðãóìåíòîâ ïðîäîëæàòü ïèñàòü ãëóïîñòè ýòî ïðèçíàê îòñóòñòâèÿ äàæå ýëåìåíòàðíîãî èíòåëëåêòà. Òàê êàê ïîíÿòü ðàçíûé óðîâåíü àðãóìåíòîâ è èõ îòñóòñòâèÿ ìîæåò óæå äàæå ðåáåíîê.
Ïðîáëåìà â òîì, ÷òî äèñêóññèÿ(óñëîâíîå íàçâàíèå) èä¸ò íà íàñòîëüêî ðàçíûõ óðîâíÿõ, òàê êàê äëÿ òîãî ÷òîáû ñïîðèòü íà ðàâíûõ, íóæíû õîòÿ áû ýëåìåíòàðíûå áàçîâûå çíàíèÿ, èíôîðìàöèÿ ñ äîñòîâåðíûìè èñòî÷íèêàìè. Ÿ íåò âîò óæå ó ïîêëîííèêîâ ÁÀÄîâ ñòðàíèö îêîëî 20. Âñå êàêèå-òî âñïëåñêè èç "ôèëüêèíîé ãðàìîòû", íè îäíîãî äîñòîâåðíîãî ôàêòà, íó êàê òóò ìîæíî äèñêóòèðîâàòü, î ÷åì? Íó äëÿ ïðèìåðà õîòÿ áû ïîñìîòðåëè äèñêóññèè ìåæäó ñïåöèàëèñòàìè â òåìàõ ôîðóìà - ïî êàêèì ïðèíöèïàì ïðîâîäèòñÿ ñïîð; ïðè÷åì íåò íè÷åãî ñòðàøíîãî, êîãäà îäèí ñïåöèàëèñò ñ ïîìîùüþ äîêàçàòåëüñòâ óáåæäàåò äðóãîãî-âòîðîé ëèáî ïðåäîñòàâëÿåò êîíòðàðãóìåíòû ñ ïðîâåðÿåìûìè èñòî÷íèêàìè, ëèáî ñîãëàøàåòñÿ, ëèáî ïðîñòî ðåòèðóåòñÿ, ëèáî îñòàåòñÿ ïðè ñâîåì ìíåíèè, íî ïðèçíàåò íåâîçìîæíîñòü ïðåäîñòàâèòü äîêàçàòåëüñòâà, íî áðåä-òî íèêòî íå ïèøåò |
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Ýòîò ïðîåêò íàáèðàë ó÷àñòíèêîâ èññëåäîâàíèÿ ñ 1988 ïî 1994 ãîä, çàòåì îíè ïðîñëåæèâàëèñü â òå÷åíèå 12 ëåò. 1994+12=2006. Ò.å. íàáëþäåíèå áûëî çàâåðøåíî â 2006 ãîäó. Êàê ïðàâèëî, íà âûïîëíåíèå àíàëèçà, ïîäãîòîâêó ñòàòüè è ïóáëèêàöèþ óõîäèò íå ìåíåå ãîäà. Íèêòî íè÷åãî íå ñêðûâàë, òåì áîëåå â òå÷åíèå 14 ëåò. Âïðî÷åì, ìíå äîñòàòî÷íî Âàøåãî ïðèçíàíèÿ ïîäòàñîâêè ôàêòîâ â âèäå ñîêðûòèÿ ÷àñòè èíôîðìàöèè, íåâûãîäíîé äëÿ ïðîäàæè ÁÀÄîâ. Íàäåþñü, ìíîãèì äðóãèì ÷èòàòåëÿì òîæå. |
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Ñîâåðøåííî î÷åâèäíî, ìíîãèå âðà÷è, ñêðûâàÿ èíôîðìàöèþ, íå çàíèìàÿñü ïðîôèëàêòèêîé çäîðîâüÿ, ñîçíàòåëüíî èëè íå ñîçíàòåëüíî äîâîäÿò ëþäåé äî èíôàðêòîâ, ðàêîâûõ îïóõîëåé, è ïðî÷èõ çàáîëåâàíèé. À ïîòîì ýòè æå çàáîëåâàíèÿ ëå÷àò.
Ìîæíî êîíå÷íî ïîñëóøàòü âðà÷åé, è íå ïðèíèìàòü âî âíèìàíèå èçìåíèâøóþñÿ ýêîëîãè÷åñêóþ îáñòàíîâêó, íå îáðàùàòü âíèìàíèå íà ýðîçèþ ïî÷âû, íà èçìåíèâøèåñÿ ïðèâû÷êè ïèòàíèÿ, íàäåÿòüñÿ íà ðóññêîå àâîñü è æäàòü êóäà êðèâàÿ âûâåçåò. Èëè. Ïîòîìó êàê âðà÷è íè÷åãî íå õîòÿò ïîñîâåòîâàòü äëÿ ïðîôèëàêòèêè çäîðîâüÿ, óêðåïëåíèÿ èììóíèòåòà, çàùèòíûõ è âîññòàíîâèòåëüíûõ ñèë îðãàíèçìà, ñàìîìó ðàçîáðàòüñÿ îò êàêèõ ôàêòîðîâ çàâèñèò ñîáñòâåííîå çäîðîâüå. Ïîäóìàòü, ïî÷åìó â âûñîêîãîðíûõ äåðåâíÿõ Êàâêàçà, ëþäè æèâóò â ïîëòîðà - äâà ðàçà äîëüøå. Ïî÷åìó ëþäè åäóò íà êóðîðòû è ïðèíèìàÿ (ñ òî÷êè çðåíèÿ îôèöèàëüíîé ìåäèöèíû) ñìåðòåëüíûå äîçû ìèíåðàëîâ ÷àñòåíüêî âûçäîðàâëèâàþò. ×óäîäåéñòâåííûõ ïîðîøêîâ, ñïîñîáíûõ ïîáåäèòü ñìåðòü, (êàê òóò èðîíèçèðóþò íåêîòîðûå ÷ëåíû - êîðû) êîíå÷íî æå â ïðèðîäå íå ñóùåñòâóåò. Âñå ìû ñìåðòíû. Îäíàêî ïðîäëèòü ìîëîäîñòü, ñîõðàíèòü ñâî¸ çäîðîâüå äî ãëóáîêîé ñòàðîñòè, ýòî ðåàëüíî. Ñòî ïðîöåíòíîé ãàðàíòèè ïðè ýòîì êîíå÷íî íåò è áûòü íå ìîæåò. |
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Ðåíòíûå óáåæäåíèÿ íåêîëåáèìû
Íî, íàäåþñü, äûðà â óøàõ íå ó âñåõ ñêâîçíàÿ - èíîìó ìîæåò ÷òî-òî è çàïàñòü À íåóìåíèå ÷èòàòü ñïàñàåò îò ñîìíåíèé Çà äåëî ÁÀÄ Âèòàëåò èäåò âïåðåä !
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