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Îïöèè òåìû Ïîèñê â ýòîé òåìå Îïöèè ïðîñìîòðà
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Ñòàðûé 14.07.2005, 22:55
V. ZAITSEV V. ZAITSEV âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
çàáàíåí
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 25.07.2001
Ñîîáùåíèé: 3,330
V. ZAITSEV
ÎËË

Áóäó ïðèçíàòåëåí çà èíôîðìàöèþ ïî ýôåêòèâíîñòè èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ ìîíîêëîíàëüíûõ àíòèòåë (íàðÿäó ñ õèìèîòåðàïèåé) ïðè îñòðîì ëèìôîáëàñòíîì ëåéêîçå. Âîïðîñ íåïðàçäíûé, êàñàåòñÿ êîíêðåòíîãî áîëüíîãî.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 15.07.2005, 10:41
Àâàòàð äëÿ Light
Light Light âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 17.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 9,773
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 1
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,254 ðàç(à) çà 1,110 ñîîáùåíèé
Light ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò V. ZAITSEV
Áóäó ïðèçíàòåëåí çà èíôîðìàöèþ ïî ýôåêòèâíîñòè èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ ìîíîêëîíàëüíûõ àíòèòåë (íàðÿäó ñ õèìèîòåðàïèåé) ïðè îñòðîì ëèìôîáëàñòíîì ëåéêîçå. Âîïðîñ íåïðàçäíûé, êàñàåòñÿ êîíêðåòíîãî áîëüíîãî.
×èòàëà (óæå íå âñïîìíþ, ãäå), ÷òî áûëî íåñêîëüêî ðàáîò íà óðîâíå ýêñïåðèìåíòàëüíûõ è ïèëîòíûõ èññëåäîâàíèé ïî ÿêîáû óñïåøíîìó èñïîëüçîâàíèþ ìîíîêëîíàëüíûõ àíòèòåë äëÿ ëå÷åíèÿ ìåòàñòàòè÷åñêèõ àñöèòîâ. Äðóãàÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ íà ýòó òåìó ìíå íå âñòðå÷àëàñü.
Ìîæåò áûòü, îíêîëîãè ïîìîãóò?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 15.07.2005, 11:08
Àâàòàð äëÿ vmark
vmark vmark âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 23.05.2005
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 5,560
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 40
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 570 ðàç(à) çà 558 ñîîáùåíèé
vmark ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåvmark ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåvmark ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåvmark ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåvmark ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåvmark ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåvmark ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåvmark ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåvmark ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåvmark ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåvmark ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò V. ZAITSEV
Áóäó ïðèçíàòåëåí çà èíôîðìàöèþ ïî ýôåêòèâíîñòè èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ ìîíîêëîíàëüíûõ àíòèòåë (íàðÿäó ñ õèìèîòåðàïèåé) ïðè îñòðîì ëèìôîáëàñòíîì ëåéêîçå. Âîïðîñ íåïðàçäíûé, êàñàåòñÿ êîíêðåòíîãî áîëüíîãî.
Íå ìîãó Âàì ïîìî÷ü ëè÷íî, íî åñëè Âû îïèøèòå ïðîáëåìó ïîäðîáíî, òî ìîãó ïîñîâåòîâàòüñÿ ñ ãåìàòîëîãàìè.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 15.07.2005, 18:07
V. ZAITSEV V. ZAITSEV âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
çàáàíåí
      
 
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 3,330
V. ZAITSEV
Ñïàñèáî áîëüøîå çà îòâåòû. Äåòàëè ïîêà ñàìîìó ìàëî èçâåñòíû, ò.ê. î ãîñïèòàëèçàöèè è äèàãíîçå îáùàÿ çíàêîìàÿ ñîîáùèëà òîëüêî â÷åðà.
Áîëüíîé – åù¸ äîâîëüíî ìîëîäîé ìóæ÷èíà, ëåò äåñÿòü íàçàä áûë ïëîòíî ñâÿçàí ñ èññëåäîâàíèÿìè ðàäèîàêòèâíûõ èçîòîïîâ ðåäêîçåìåëüíûõ ýëåìåíòîâ. Âîïðîñ ñâÿçàí ñ òåì, ÷òî íà öèòîñòàòèêàõ (ñî ñëîâ çíàêîìîé) ýôôåêò ïîêà íå î÷åíü.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 15.07.2005, 18:41
Àâàòàð äëÿ yananshs
yananshs yananshs âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë æåíñêèé
çàáàíåí
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 25.02.2003
Ãîðîä: NY
Ñîîáùåíèé: 9,664
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 15
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 56 ðàç(à) çà 51 ñîîáùåíèé
yananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåyananshs ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Íàñêîëüêî ÿ çíàþ, ìîíîêëîíàëüíûå àíòèòåëà â íàñòîÿùåå âðåìÿ èñïîëüçóþòñÿ ïðè ëå÷åíèè íåêîòîðûõ âèäîâ ëèìôîì (õîëîäíûe è ìå÷åíûe ðàäèîèçîòîïàìè. Ìû, â ÷àñòíîñòè, ïðîâîäèì òåðàïèþ Zevalin), AML. Ïî ïîâîäó ëå÷åíèÿ ÀLL ìîíîêëîíàëüíûìè àíòèòåëàìè - íå ñëûøàëà. Ïîèùó.
Ðåêîìåíäàöèè çäåñü:
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 15.07.2005, 19:31
V. ZAITSEV V. ZAITSEV âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
çàáàíåí
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 25.07.2001
Ñîîáùåíèé: 3,330
V. ZAITSEV
Ñïàñèáî.
Íåêîòîðûå ðåçóëüòàòû (MD Andersen cancer center), ïîëó÷åííûå çà ïîñëåäíèå òðè ãîäà óäàëîñü íàéòè. Áóäó ïðèçíàòåëåí çà ëþáûå äîïîëíèòåëüíûå.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #7  
Ñòàðûé 17.08.2005, 10:30
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,396
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,236 ðàç(à) çà 31,585 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Âîò íåïëîõîé íåäàâíèé îáçîð êàê ðàç ïî òåìå, ê ñîæàëåíèþ ïîëíîãî òåêñòà íåò, íî åñëè íàïèñàòü àâòîðàì, òî îíè âðÿä ëè îòêàæóò:

Ann Hematol. 2004 Apr;83(4):201-5.

Treatment with monoclonal antibodies in acute lymphoblastic leukemia: current knowledge and future prospects.

Gokbuget N, Hoelzer D.

Medical Clinic III, University Hospital, Theodor-Stern-Kai 7, 60590 Frankfurt, Germany. goekbuget(ñîáàêà)em.uni-frankfurt.de

After rapid improvement of treatment results in adult acute lymphoblastic leukemia (ALL) from less than 10% to 30-40% in the past decades, more recently stagnation has been observed. In addition, a borderline for further intensification of chemotherapy appears to be reached in adult ALL patients. New, preferably non-chemotherapy, approaches are therefore urgently required. One of those is targeted therapy with monoclonal antibodies (MoAbs). ALL blast cells express a variety of specific antigens which may serve as targets, such as CD19, CD20, CD22, CD33, and CD52. Published results of MoAbs in ALL are reviewed. Most experience is available for anti-CD20 (rituximab) which led to a significant improvement of the outcome in B-cell non-Hodgkin's lymphoma (NHL). In ALL, rituximab is combined with chemotherapy mainly in mature B-ALL and Burkitt's lymphoma and preliminary results are promising. In the future, studies will also be done in B-precursor ALL. Another promising B-cell antibody is anti-CD22. Several CD19 MoAbs were also tested in phase I studies. However, results are not conclusive and these MoAbs are not generally available. Far less experience with MoAb therapy is available for T-ALL, but clinical studies are on the way with anti-CD52 and anti-CD25 in adult T-cell leukemia/lymphoma. Overall, it can be stated that MoAb therapy in ALL is a promising treatment approach. Monotherapy with MoAbs in relapsed ALL occasionally led to responses, but higher effectivity can be expected from a combination with chemotherapy and treatment in the state of minimal residual disease. Well-designed studies and joint efforts are required to explore optimal combinations, timing and dosage of MoAb therapy in ALL.

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V. ZAITSEV îäîáðèë(à): Ñïàñèáî
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Èñêðåííå,
Âàäèì Âàëåðüåâè÷.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #8  
Ñòàðûé 17.08.2005, 11:22
Àâàòàð äëÿ Tanya_M
Tanya_M Tanya_M âíå ôîðóìà
Ïîñòîÿííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 17.12.2003
Ãîðîä: Êèåâ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 331
Tanya_M ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåTanya_M ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Dr. Vad
ê ñîæàëåíèþ ïîëíîãî òåêñòà íåò
Full text ìîãó îòïðàâèòü, äàâàéòå e-mail.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #9  
Ñòàðûé 17.08.2005, 12:27
V. ZAITSEV V. ZAITSEV âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
çàáàíåí
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 25.07.2001
Ñîîáùåíèé: 3,330
V. ZAITSEV
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Tanya_M
Full text ìîãó îòïðàâèòü, äàâàéòå e-mail.
Ñïàñèáî, áîëüøîå!
Íî, â äàííûé ìîìåíò, îïðåäåëåííàÿ èíôîðìàöèÿ ïîëó÷åíà èç äðóãèõ èñòî÷íèêîâ. Óäàëîñü ñâÿçàòüñÿ ñî ñïåöèàëèñòàìè. Áîëüíîé äîâîëüíî óñïåøíî (ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå, äî íàñòîÿùåãî âðåìåíè) ëå÷èòñÿ.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #10  
Ñòàðûé 17.08.2005, 12:47
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,396
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,236 ðàç(à) çà 31,585 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
óâàæàåìàÿ Òàòüÿíà,

îãðîìíîå ñïàñèáî çà ãîòîâíîñòü ïîìî÷ü, à ÷òî ó Âàñ òîëüêî ýòà äîñòóïíà èëè âåñü Ann Hematol?
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Èñêðåííå,
Âàäèì Âàëåðüåâè÷.
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Àâàòàð äëÿ Tanya_M
Tanya_M Tanya_M âíå ôîðóìà
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Tanya_M ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåTanya_M ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Dr. Vad
óâàæàåìàÿ Òàòüÿíà,

îãðîìíîå ñïàñèáî çà ãîòîâíîñòü ïîìî÷ü, à ÷òî ó Âàñ òîëüêî ýòà äîñòóïíà èëè âåñü Ann Hematol?
Âðîäå âåñü. Åñëè ÷òî-òî íóæíî, ÿ ïîñòàðàþñü ïîìî÷ü. Îáðàùàéòåñü.
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Àâàòàð äëÿ YuriTop
YuriTop YuriTop âíå ôîðóìà
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