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Îïöèè òåìû Ïîèñê â ýòîé òåìå Îïöèè ïðîñìîòðà
  #16  
Ñòàðûé 26.02.2007, 01:44
senya-122 senya-122 âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 28.12.2005
Ãîðîä: Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 54
senya-122 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò îòâðàòèòåëüíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
 ×óäíîâêå?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #17  
Ñòàðûé 26.02.2007, 21:58
Àâàòàð äëÿ Sleptsov
Sleptsov Sleptsov âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 12.12.2004
Ãîðîä: Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 16
Sleptsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSleptsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Äà, ðàíüøå îíà çâàëàñü ×óäíîâêîé )
Ñåé÷àñ ×óäíîâêó áûñòðî èçæèâàþò. Îñòàëîñü ñîâñåì íåìíîãî - åùå äâà ýòàæà îòðåìîíòèðîâàòü )
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #18  
Ñòàðûé 07.03.2007, 20:45
silver silver âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Êàíäèäàò â âåòåðàíû ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 05.11.2005
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Ñîîáùåíèé: 1,097
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 57 ðàç(à) çà 56 ñîîáùåíèé
silver ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåsilver ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåsilver ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåsilver ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåsilver ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåsilver ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåsilver ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåsilver ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåsilver ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåsilver ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåsilver ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ïîëó÷åíû âåñüìà îáíàäåæèâàþùèå äàííûå ïî ïðèìåíåíèþ interseed
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #19  
Ñòàðûé 07.03.2007, 23:20
Àâàòàð äëÿ Sleptsov
Sleptsov Sleptsov âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 12.12.2004
Ãîðîä: Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 16
Sleptsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSleptsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Çàìåòèë íîâûé îòçûâ íà îäíî èç ìîèõ ñîîáùåíèé - ïðî äèññåðòàöèîííîå èññëåäîâàíèå. ß è ñàì íàïðÿãàþñü îáû÷íî ïðè ñëîâàõ î äèññåðòàöèÿõ - óæ áîëüíî ãëàäêî òàì îáû÷íî âñå ïðîõîäèò. ß - íå ËÎÐ-âðà÷, ìíå ñëîæíî ñóäèòü î ïðèìåíèìîñòè ãåëÿ äëÿ ïðîôèëàêòèêè ñðàùåíèé ïðè îïåðàöèÿõ íà ñðåäíåì óõå. Íàøó êîìàíäó èíòåðåñîâàëè: à). áåçîïàñíîñòü ãåëÿ; á). íàëè÷èå ýôôåêòà îò íåãî ïðè ðàçëè÷íûõ îïåðàöèÿõ. Ïîêà âñå èäåò ãëàäêî, íî òðåáóþòñÿ, áåçóñëîâíî, áîëåå øèðîêèå èññëåäîâàíèÿ. Ñòàòèñòèêà... òîëüêî îíà ïîêàæåò ðåàëüíóþ çíà÷èìîñòü íàøåãî ãåëÿ
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #20  
Ñòàðûé 17.03.2007, 02:09
senya-122 senya-122 âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 28.12.2005
Ãîðîä: Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 54
senya-122 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò îòâðàòèòåëüíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Âû ïðîáîâàëè ïðèìåíÿòü ãåëü èëè ìåìáðàíû ó áîëüíîãî êîòîðûé áûë óæå ïðîîïåðèðîâàí è Âû áûëè âòîðîé ñ ãåëåì. À ïîòîì åù¸ êòî-òî îïåðèðîâàë. Òàê âîò ó òðåòüåãî ñïàéêè áûëè???? Ýòî íàâåðíîå áóäåò äîêàçàòåëüíûì íàáëþäåíèåì.
 ÌÀÏÎ 3 (òðè, åñëè íå áîëüøå - ïî êîëè÷åñòâó ïðîôåññîðîâ) êàôåäðû õèðóðãè÷åñêèõ áîëåçíåé - íà êàêîé. À â Äæàíåëèäçå êòî ïðèìåíÿåò - â 2003-2005 íèêòî òóäà íè÷åãî íå âëèâàë ( â áðþøíóþ ïîëîñòü). Ïðî "äåòåé" íå çíàþ. Ñåâðþãîâ Á. Ë. è Áàèðîâ Â. Ã. ÿ äóìàþ ïîáîÿòñÿ âëèâàòü ÷òî-òî â äåòåé.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #21  
Ñòàðûé 26.03.2007, 21:43
Àâàòàð äëÿ Sleptsov
Sleptsov Sleptsov âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 12.12.2004
Ãîðîä: Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 16
Sleptsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSleptsov ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ãåëü ïðèìåíÿëè ó ïàöèåíòîâ ñî ñïàå÷íîé íåïðîõîäèìîñòüþ â 15-é áîëüíèöå ã. Ìîñêâû, òàì ïàöèåíòàì ïîñëå îïåðàöèè íà 3-å ñóòêè ïðîâîäèëè ëàïàðîñêîïèþ äëÿ îöåíêè âûðàæåííîñòè ñïàå÷íîãî ïðîöåññà. Ïîäõîä, êîíå÷íî, æåñòêèé, íî îí ïîçâîëÿåò îöåíèòü ñîñòîÿíèå áðþøèíû ïîñëå ïðèìåíåíèÿ ãåëÿ è áåç íåãî. Èìåííî ýòîò ïîäõîä, íà ìîé âçãëÿä, íàèáîëåå äîêàçàòåëåí, õîòÿ åãî íåëüçÿ ïðèìåíèòü ó âñåõ ïàöèåíòîâ.
Î ñëó÷àÿõ, ÷òîáû ïàöèåíò, ïðîîïåðèðîâàííûé ñ èñïîëüçîâàíèåì ãåëÿ, îïåðèðîâàëñÿ ïîòîì ñíîâà, ìíå íå èçâåñòíî. Âîçìîæíî, ÷òî òàêèå ñëó÷àè áûëè, íî ìíå î íèõ íè÷åãî íå èçâåñòíî.
Êîãäà ÿ ãîâîðþ î êàôåäðå õèðóðãè÷åñêèõ áîëåçíåé ÑÏáÌÀÏÎ, ÿ ãîâîðþ èìåííî î êàôåäðå õèðóðãè÷åñêèõ áîëåçíåé (îíà òàê è íàçûâàåòñÿ). Çàâåäóåò ýòîé êàôåäðîé ïðîôåññîð Âÿ÷åñëàâ Ïåòðîâè÷ Çåìëÿíîé.
 èíñòèòóòå Äæàíåëèäçå ãåëü ïðèìåíÿëè ñîòðóäíèêè êàôåäðû ÂÌåäÀ Ñèíåí÷åíêî Ã.È., Ïåëèïàñü Þ.Â. Äàííûå î ðåçóëüòàòàõ èñïûòàíèé ìîæíî ïðî÷èòàòü [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ].
 Ïåäèàòðè÷åñêîé àêàäåìèè ãåëü èñïîëüçîâàë ïðîôåññîð Êîìèññàðîâ, çàâåäóþùèé êàôåäðîé äåòñêîé õèðóðãèè, à òàêæå àññèñòåíò êàôåäðû Âîðûïèí Äìèòðèé Ìèõàéëîâè÷, õèðóðã Êîëåñíèêîâ Äàíèëà Ñåðãååâè÷. Ðåçóëüòàòû [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ].
Ñåé÷àñ àêòèâíî ïðèìåíÿþò ãåëü â ãèíåêîëîãè÷åñêîì îòäåëåíèè ãîðîäñêîãî îíêîëîãè÷åñêîãî äèñïàíñåðà - çàâåäóþùàÿ îòäåëåíèåì Ëèñÿíñêàÿ Àííà Ñåðãååâíà.
Åùå ðàç õî÷ó ïîä÷åðêíóòü - ìîè ñîîáùåíèÿ íå íîñÿò ðåêëàìíîãî õàðàêòåðà, ÿ ãåëåì íå òîðãóþ. Îäíàêî, ïîñâÿòèâ èçó÷åíèþ åãî ñâîéñòâ è ðàçðàáîòêå îêîí÷àòåëüíîé ôîðìû ïðåïàðàòà â ñîñòàâå íàøåé ãðóïïû 4 ãîäà, ÿ, êîíå÷íî, õî÷ó âèäåòü ïðåïàðàò âîñòðåáîâàííûì. Òåì áîëåå, åñëè ãîâîðèòü ÷åñòíî, äðóãèõ ìåòîäîâ ëå÷åíèÿ ñïàå÷íîé áîëåçíè ó íàñ ïðàêòè÷åñêè íåò (åñëè íå ñ÷èòàòü èìïîðòíûå áàðüåðíûå ñðåäñòâà, ìåõàíèçì äåéñòâèÿ êîòîðûõ âî ìíîãîì ñõîäåí ñ äåéñòâèåì Ìåçîãåëÿ). ×òîáû ïðåïàðàò áûë âîñòðåáîâàí, ÷òîáû èñ÷åçëî ñîâåðøåííî åñòåñòâåííîå ïîäîçðåíèå ê "î÷åðåäíîìó ÷óäî-ñðåäñòâó", íåîáõîäèìû øèðîêèå èñïûòàíèÿ. ×åì øèðå îíè ïðîéäóò, òåì áîëåå îáúåêòèâíûìè è ðàçíîïëàíîâûìè áóäóò ðåçóëüòàòû. Ìû â ýòîì çàèíòåðåñîâàíû â ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü, ïîñêîëüêó íàøà ðàáîòà ñåé÷àñ ïðàêòè÷åñêè çàêîí÷èëàñü - ãåëü ñäåëàí, ýêñïåðèìåíòû íà æèâîòíûõ ïðîâåäåíû, îáÿçàòåëüíûå èñïûòàíèÿ - òîæå, ðåãèñòðàöèÿ ïîëó÷åíà. Òåïåðü - ñëîâî çà îñòàëüíûìè. Ïîýòîìó, åñëè áóäåò æåëàíèå ïîó÷àñòâîâàòü â ðàáîòå - ìû ñ ðàäîñòüþ áóäåì ñîòðóäíè÷àòü.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #22  
Ñòàðûé 07.01.2008, 23:45
Domdoctor Domdoctor âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
Ñåðôåð
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 07.01.2008
Ãîðîä: Äîíåöê
Ñîîáùåíèé: 3
Domdoctor *
Óâàæàåìûå êîëëåãè, íå ïîÿâèëîñü ëè ó êîãî íèáóäü êàêîé òî íîâîé èíôîðìàöèè î èñïîëüçîâàíèè Ìåçîãåëÿ?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #23  
Ñòàðûé 21.01.2008, 15:13
levdub levdub âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 17.01.2008
Ãîðîä: Ãåðìàíèÿ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 62
levdub ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò õîðîøóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Unhappy

 Ãåðìàíèè ñ öåëüþ ïðåäîòâðàùåíèÿ/óìåíüøåíèÿ ñïàéêîîáðàçîâàíèÿ ïðèìåíÿþò ADEPT ("adept ist eine zum Einmalgebrauch bestimmte sterile, klare farblose bis blassgelbe Flüssigkeit zur intraperitonealen Anwendung, die 4% Icodextrin in einer Elektrolytlösung enthält und im Bereich der Adhäsionsprävention angewendet wird. Baxter.") Íî âîò íàñêîëüêî ïåðïàðàò íà ñàìîì äåëå ýôôåêòèâåí-âîïðîñ.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #24  
Ñòàðûé 18.06.2008, 15:23
Àâàòàð äëÿ alexdr
alexdr alexdr âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 25.11.2005
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 3,184
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 306 ðàç(à) çà 297 ñîîáùåíèé
alexdr ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåalexdr ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåalexdr ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåalexdr ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåalexdr ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåalexdr ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåalexdr ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåalexdr ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåalexdr ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåalexdr ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåalexdr ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Äóìàþ, ìîæåò áûëî áû èíòåðåñíî ïðîäîëæèòü ýòó ñòàðóþ òåìó. Çà ïîñëåäíåå âðåìÿ (òàê âûøëî), ïîïàëîñü íà ãëàçà íåñêîëüêî ñòàòåé, ðàáîò, êîììåíòèðóþùèõ ðàçëè÷íûå ïðåïàðàòû ïðè ëå÷åíèè ñïàå÷íîé áîëåçíè. [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ] ãîâîðèòñÿ îá îòçûâå ñ ðûíêà Intergel Adhesion Prevention Solution ââèäó îáíàðóæèâøèõñÿ ïîáî÷íûõ ýôôåêòîâ. Âîò [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ] ãîâîðèòñÿ:
Öèòàòà:
CONCLUSIONS: The current evidence for the use of fluid and pharmacological agents for the prevention of adhesions is limited. There is no evidence on any benefit for improving pregnancy outcomes when pharmacological and fluid agents are used as an adjunct during pelvic surgery.There is insufficient evidence for the use of the following agents: steroids, icodextrin 4%, SprayGel and dextran in improving adhesions following surgery.There is some evidence that hyaluronic acid agents may decrease the proportion of adhesions and prevent the deterioration of pre existing adhesions. However, due to the limited number of studies available, this evidence should be interpreted with caution and further studies are needed.
À âîò â [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ] ðàíäîìèçèðîâàííîì èññëåäîâàíèè áûëè ïîëó÷åíû ñëåäóþùèå ðåçóëüòàòû:
Öèòàòà:
The results of this prematurely suspended trial indicate that Intergel treatment, in the context of bowel resection, is associated with an unacceptably high morbidity rate. Its use predisposed to the development of late postoperative peritonitis and anastomotic dehiscence. Based on these findings, the use of Intergel, in situations where the gastrointestinal tract has been opened, is not endorsed. Further animal studies are needed to investigate the potential mechanisms behind these adverse events.
Òåìà ìíå êàæåòñÿ î÷åíü èíòåðåñíîé, îäíàêî, íåñìîòðÿ íà íàëè÷èå îòå÷åñòâåííûõ êëèíèññëåäîâàíèé ïî ïðèìåíåíèþ ìåçîãåëÿ ïðè äàííîé ïàòîëîãèè, ó÷èòûâàÿ äèçàéí èññëåäîâàíèé, î êîòîðûõ ìíå óäàëîñü ïðî÷åñòü ïî ëþáåçíî ïðåäîñòàâëåííîé ðàíåå äîêòîðîì Ñëåïöîâûì ññûëêå, ðàíî ñóäèòü î òîì, ÷òî íàñòóïèë â ðåøåíèè ýòîé ïðîáëåìû. ß íå ïðàâ? Åñëè ÷òî, íå ïèíàéòå, ÿ âåäü íå ñïåöèàëèñò â ýòîé îáëàñòè.
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Ïðèñîåäèíÿÿñü ê äèñêóññèè ìîãó äîáàâèòü, ÷òî ïîÿâèëèñü íîâûå èññëåäîâàíèÿ ïî èñïîëüçîâàíèþ ïðîòèâîñïàå÷íîãî ãåëÿ Ìåçîãåëü.  ìàå 2009 çàùèòèëñÿ äîêòîð èç 15 áîëüíèöû, â åãî ðàáîòå ïðîâåäåí àíàëèç 143 ñëó÷àå èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ ìåçîãåëÿ ó ïàöèåíòîâ ñî ñïàå÷íîé áîëåçíüþ áðþøíîé ïîëîñòè. Àâòîðåôåðàò ìîæíî íàéòè ïî ññûëêå [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
Êðîìå òîãî, â 2008 ãîäó îïóáëèêîâàíû èññëåäîâàíèÿ â Âåñòíèêå õèðóðãèè èì. Ãðåêîâà, ¹5, Ñ. 32-35. [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
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