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Ôîðóì äëÿ îáùåíèÿ âðà÷åé àêóøåðîâ-ãèíåêîëîãîâ Ôîðóì ïðåäíàçíà÷åí äëÿ îáùåíèÿ ìåæäó âðà÷àìè àêóøåðàìè-ãèíåêîëîãàìè.

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Îïöèè òåìû Ïîèñê â ýòîé òåìå Îïöèè ïðîñìîòðà
  #31  
Ñòàðûé 18.04.2004, 17:53
Tatiana Che
Ãîñòü
 
Ñîîáùåíèé: n/a
(d) The effect of the route of administration remains an issue. Avoidance of the first-pass effects of oral therapy may be advantageous, especially for those with increased risk factors for venous thrombosis. More long-term data are required on the clinical outcomes of non-oral routes of administration.


d. Îöåíêà âëèÿíèÿ ïóòè ââåäåíèÿ ïðåïàðàòà äëÿ ÇÃÒ îñòàåòñÿ èçó÷àåìîé ïðîáëåìîé äî íàñòîÿùåãî âðåìåíè. Ïðåäóïðåæäåíèå ýôôåêòà ïåðâîãî ïðîõîæäåíèÿ îðàëüíûõ ïðåïàðàòîâ ÇÃÒ ìîæåò áûòü áëàãîïðèÿòíà ïðè óâåëè÷åíèè ðèñêà âåíîçíîãî òðîìáîçà.  íàñòîÿùåå âðåìÿ íåîáõîäèìî îöåíèòü îòäàëåííûå ðåçóëüòàòû ïîäîáíîé òåðàïèè.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #32  
Ñòàðûé 18.04.2004, 18:00
Tatiana Che
Ãîñòü
 
Ñîîáùåíèé: n/a
(e) The different types and regimens of HT do not have the same tissue and metabolic effects and should not be grouped together as having a class effect.

e. Ðàçëè÷íûå òèïû è ðåæèìû çàìåñòèòåëüíîé ãîðìîíàëüíîé òåðàïèè èìåþò ðàçëè÷íûå ìåòàáîëè÷åñêèå ýôôåêòû è íå ìîãóò áûòü ñãðóïïèðîâàíû ïî ïðèíöèïó îáùèõ ýôôåêòîâ äëÿ âñåãî êëàññà ïðåïàðàòîâ.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #33  
Ñòàðûé 18.04.2004, 18:07
Tatiana Che
Ãîñòü
 
Ñîîáùåíèé: n/a
(f) Progesterone/progestins are only required for protection of the endometrium. This benefit has to be balanced against effects on other tissues and metabolic effects. Intrauterine delivery systems may have some advantages. The role of progesterone and progestins and the different routes of administration remain issues for study.

f. Ïðîãåñòåðîí/ïðîãåñòèíû íåîáõîäèìû èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî äëÿ ïðîôèëàêòèêè ãèïåðïëàñòè÷åñêèõ ïðîöåññîâ ýíäîìåòðèÿ. Äàííûé áëàãîïðèÿòíûé ýôôåêò äîëæåí áûòü âçâåøåí ñ ïîçèöèè èíûõ ìåòàáîëè÷åñêèõ ýôôåêòîâ ïðîãåñòèíîâ. Óñòàíîâêà âíóòðèìàòî÷íûõ ñèñòåì ìîæåò èìåòü íåêîòîðûå ïðåèìóùåñòâà. Ìåòàáîëè÷åñêîå âëèÿíèå ïðîãåñòèíîâ ïðè ðàçëè÷íûõ ïóòÿõ ââåäåíèÿ îñòàåòñÿ âîïðîñîì áóäóùèõ èññëåäîâàíèé.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #34  
Ñòàðûé 18.04.2004, 18:09
Tatiana Che
Ãîñòü
 
Ñîîáùåíèé: n/a
(g) Combinations of hormones with other treatment regimens may be of benefit.

g. Êîìáèíàöèè ãîðìîíàëüíûõ ïðåïàðàòîâ â èíûõ òåðàïåâòè÷åñêèõ ðåæèìàõ ìîæåò áûòü ïðåäïî÷òèòåëüíà ïðè íàëè÷èè áîëåå áëàãîïðèÿòíûõ ýôôåêòîâ.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #35  
Ñòàðûé 18.04.2004, 18:13
Tatiana Che
Ãîñòü
 
Ñîîáùåíèé: n/a
(h) Evidence from population studies cannot be directly generalized to individual patients. However, such evidence can be used as general guidance in clinical decision-making, in which case the emphasis should be on absolute rather than relative risk.

h. Äàííûå ïîïóëÿöèîííûõ èññëåäîâàíèé íå ìîãóò áûòü íåïîñðåäñòâåííî ïðèìåíèìû êî âñåì ïàöèåíòêàì. Îäíàêî òàêèå ðåçóëüòàòû ìîãóò èñïîëüçîâàòüñÿ â êà÷åñòâå îáùåå ðóêîâîäñòâî â êëèíè÷åñêîé ïðàêòèêå ïðè ïðèíÿòèè ðåøåíèÿ, êîãäà àêöåíò äîëæåí áûòü ñäåëàí íà àáñîëþòíîì ðèñêå, à íå íà îòíîñèòåëüíîì.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #36  
Ñòàðûé 18.04.2004, 18:37
Tatiana Che
Ãîñòü
 
Ñîîáùåíèé: n/a
There is a great body of important pre-clinical experimental evidence that bears on these matters. Clinical research, both observational and RCTs, should be encouraged to improve clinical practice. The quality of experimental design is still a key factor in the evaluation and applicability of even the largest RCT9. In this regard, the Executive Committee of the IMS supports the immediate release of the full database from the estrogen + progestin arm of the WHI and the MWS database for independent review.

The IMS particularly supports the expansion of research into the effects of hormones on the vascular, musculoskeletal and nervous systems, as well as the role of hormones and hormone-like compounds in carcinogenesis and prevention. We are facing a tide of post-reproductive women and men. In addition to prevention by changes in life-style and dietary management, HT remains a principal tool in preventing illness and maintaining quality of life in this population; therefore, it must be the subject of continuing scientific investigation.

Ñóùåñòâóåò îãðîìíîå êîëè÷åñòâî âàæíåéøèõ ïðåêëèíè÷åñêèõ è ýêñïåðèìåíòàëüíûõ äàííûõ, íà êîòîðûõ îñíîâàíû ýòè âûâîäû. Îáñåðâàöèîííûå, êëèíè÷åñêèå è ðàíäîìèçèðîâàííûå èññëåäîâàíèÿ äîëæíî ñïîñîáñòâîâàòü óëó÷øåíèþ êëèíè÷åñêîé ïðàêòèêè. Êà÷åñòâî äèçàéíà èññëåäîâàíèÿ – âñå åùå îñòàåòñÿ êëþ÷åâûì ôàêòîðîì â îöåíêå è âàëèäíîñòè ðåçóëüòàòîâ äàæå ìîùíåéøåãî ðàíäîìèçèðîâàííîãî èññëåäîâàíèÿ. Ïîýòîìó Èñïîëíèòåëüíûé êîìèòåò IMS ïîääåðæèâàåò ïóáëèêàöèþ ïîëíîé áàçû äàííûõ – îò÷åòà ôðàãìåíòà ýñòðîãåíû + ïðîãåñòèí èññëåäîâàíèÿ WHI è áàçû äàííûõ ÌWS äëÿ äîïîëíèòåëüíîãî íåçàâèñèìîãî àíàëèçà è ïðîâåðêè.
Ìåæäóíàðîäíîå Îáùåñòâî ïî Ìåíîïàóçå - IMS âåñüìà ïîääåðæèâàåò ðàñøèðåíèå èññëåäîâàíèé ïî èçó÷åíèþ ýôôåêòîâ çàìåñòèòåëüíîé òåðàïèè íà ñîñóäèñòóþ, êîñòíî - ìûøå÷íóþ è íåðâíóþ ñèñòåìû, òàê æå, êàê è âîçìîæíîñòü èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ ãîðìîíîâ è èõ àíàëîãîâ â êà÷åñòâå ñðåäñòâ ïðîôèëàêòèêè ñåðäå÷íî-ñîñóäèñòûõ çàáîëåâàíèé ó ìóæ÷èí. Âðåìÿ ñòàâèò íàñ ïåðåä ôàêòîì íàëè÷èÿ çíà÷èòåëüíîãî ÷èñëà æåíùèí è ìóæ÷èí ñòàðøåãî âîçðàñòà ñðåäè íàøèõ ïàöèåíòîâ.  äîáàâëåíèå ê ïðîôèëàêòèêå èçìåíåíèÿ îáðàçà æèçíè è äèåòè÷åñêèõ ïðèñòðàñòèé, ÇÃÒ îñòàåòñÿ îñíîâíûì èíñòðóìåíòîì ïðîôèëàêòèêè çàáîëåâàíèé è ñðåäñòâîì ïîääåðæàíèÿ äîñòîéíîãî êà÷åñòâà æèçíè ïîæèëûõ æåíùèí è ìóæ÷èí; ïîýòîìó èìåííî ýòè âîïðîñû äîëæíû ñòàòü ïðåäìåòîì íîâûõ íàó÷íûõ èçûñêàíèé.
13 ôåâðàëÿ 2004 ã.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #37  
Ñòàðûé 18.04.2004, 18:57
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 113,375
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 32,307 ðàç(à) çà 31,401 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
H. Schneider ,President,A.Pines ,S.O"Neil,F.Naftolin,D.Sturdee,M.Birkhauser,M.Brin cat,M.Gambacciani,K.Limpaphayon,S.Palacios,N.Sisel s,D.Tan/
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Ã.À. Ìåëüíè÷åíêî
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #38  
Ñòàðûé 18.04.2004, 19:38
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 113,375
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 32,307 ðàç(à) çà 31,401 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
ß î÷åíü õî÷ó âåðèòü , ÷òî Òàòüÿíèí òðóä íå îñòàíåòñÿ íåçàìåòíûì , è ìû ñìîæåì ñåðüåçíî ïîãîâðèòü íà äåéñòâèòåëüíî âàæíóþ òåìó ÇÃÒ , íå òîëüêî ïðèìåíèòåëüíî ê æåíùèíà , íî è - aging together - ó ìóæ÷èí .
Õîòåëîñü áû íà÷àòü ðàçãîâîð ñ îáñóæäåíèÿ èìåííî ñåãîäíÿøíåé àêòóàëüíîñòè - ìû ÷àñòî ãîâîðèì î íàðàñòàíèè ÷èñëå ïîæèëûõ ëèö â ïîïóëÿöèè , íî ñòîèò ñêàçàòü ÿñíåå - â ñòàðøóþ âîçðàñòíóþ êàòåãîðèþ ïåðåõîäèò îäíîâðåìåííî áîëüøàÿ ìàññà ëþäåé - ïîñëåâîåííûå Åâðîïåéñêèå ( â ìåíüøåé ìåðå . ïî - ìîåìó - ìîãó îøèáàòüñÿ , àìåðèêàíñêèå ) äåòè ( 1945- 1950 ãã , ãîäû ðåçêîãî âñïëåêñà ðîæäàåìîñòè ) , äåòè áýáè- áóìà . Ýòî ïîêîëåíèå ïåðåõîäèò â ñâîé òðåòèé âîçðàñò â îáùåñòâå ñ ðåçêî ñíèçèâøåéñÿ ðîæäàåìîñòüþ è äîñòàòî÷íî âûñîêèì óðîâíåì ïîòðåáëåíèÿ , â ñðàâíèòåëüíî áîãàòîì è âûñîêîòåõíîëîãè÷íîì îáùåñòâå .
Ýòî ïîêîëåíèå âíåñëî ñóùåñòâåííûé âêëàä â ñîâðåìåííóþ öèâèëèçàöèþ , ïîñòðîåííóþ íà âûñîêîì óðîâíå îáðàçîâàíèÿ , âûðàæåííîì óäëèíåíèè ïðîöåññà îáó÷åíèÿ è ñîâðåìåííûõ òåõíîëîãèÿõ ïëàíèðîâàíèÿ ñåìüè.
Ýòî ïîêîëåíèå òðåáîâàòåëüíî ê ñâîåìó áëàãîïîëó÷èþ è çäîðîâüþ , îáùåñòâî çàèíòåðåñîâàíî â ìàêèìàëüíîì èñïîëüçîâíàèè èõ ïîëåçíîãî ïîòåíöèàëà ïðè ìèíèìóìå ðàñõîäîâ .
ÇÃÒ êàê ìåòîä ðåøåíèÿ àññîöèèðîâàííûõ ñ âîçðàñòîì ïðîáëåì ïîÿâèëàñü â íà÷àëå õõ âåêà , ïåðåæèëà ñåðüåçíûé êðèçèç â 70-å , êîíöåïöèÿ ïðîôèëàêòè÷åñêîé íàïðàâëåííîñòè ÇÃÒ äîìèíèðîâàëà â êîíöå 80-õ , è áûëà î÷åâèäíîé àêòóàëüíîñòü ðåøåíèÿ , â ïåðâóþ î÷åðåäü , îðãàíèçàöèîííûõ âîïðîñîâ - ìîæåò ëè ÇÃÒ ñòàòü åäèíñòâåííûì ñïîñîáîì ïðîôèëàêòèêè àññîöèèðîâàííûõ ñî ñòàðåíèåì ïðîáëåì , è äîëæíî ëè çäðàâîîõðàíåíèå èäòè íà ðàñõîäû , ñâÿçàííûå ñ îáåñïå÷åíèåì ÇÃÒ êîëîññàëüíîãî êîëè÷åñòâà æåíùèí èç ïîêîëåíèÿ . ãîðìîíîâ íå áîÿùåãîñÿ - âñïîìíèì , ÷òî ýòî ïîêîëåíèå ïðèâûêëî ê îðàëüíûì êîíòðàöåïòèâàì êàê ìåòîäó ïëàíèðîâàíèÿ ñåìüè.
Âòîðàÿ ïðîáëåìà , âîçíèêøàÿ â êîíöå 80-õ , áûëà ñâÿçàíà ñ íàëè÷èåì ìîùíûõ àëüòåðíàòèâ ÇÃÒ - SEPMs , áèñôîñôîíàòû , ìèàêàëüöèê , ñòàòèíû ìîãëè ðåøàòü êàê ëå÷åáíûå . òàê è ïðîôèëàêòè÷åñêèå ïðîáëåìû ïî ïîêàçàíèÿì . ( Ïðîäîëæåíèå ñëåäóåò )
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Ã.À. Ìåëüíè÷åíêî
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #39  
Ñòàðûé 18.04.2004, 20:14
Tatiana Che
Ãîñòü
 
Ñîîáùåíèé: n/a
Íàäî ñêàçàòü, ÷òî ýòîò äîêóìåíò âûãëÿäèò çàìåòíî îïòèìèñòè÷íåå ïåðâûõ ïóáëèêàöèé ïîñëå çàâåðøåíèÿ ôðàãìåíòà WHI â 2002 ãîäó . Ñòðÿõíóâ ïåïåë, âûÿñíèëè, ÷òî åñòü åùå ãîðèçîíòû , à ñàìà èäåÿ çàìåñòèòåëüíîé òåðàïèè áîëåå ÷åì ðàöèàíàëüíà. Âîçìîæíî, òîëüêî àìåðèêàíñêèé ýêñòðåìèçì íå íà âûñîòå.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #40  
Ñòàðûé 19.04.2004, 12:59
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 75,149
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 30,789 ðàç(à) çà 29,227 ñîîáùåíèé
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Óâàæàåìàÿ Òàòüÿíà!

Îãðîìíîå ñïàñèáî çà Âàø òðóä, îòäåëüíàÿ áëàãîäàðíîñòü è Ãàëèíå Àôàíàñüåâíå. Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, àíãëîÿçû÷íàÿ âåðñèÿ áîëåå îêàçàëàñü ïîíÿòíîé íåæåëè ïåðåâîä (èëè ïðèâû÷êà èëè some lost in translation), íàïð. â ôðàçå "Êîìáèíàöèè ãîðìîíàëüíûõ ïðåïàðàòîâ â èíûõ òåðàïåâòè÷åñêèõ ðåæèìàõ ìîæåò áûòü ïðåäïî÷òèòåëüíà ïðè íàëè÷èè áîëåå áëàãîïðèÿòíûõ ýôôåêòîâ." ñðàçó óëîâèë ñìûñë, ÷òî ðåêîìåíäóåòñÿ íàçíà÷àòü ÇÃÒ â áîëåå áëàãîïðèÿòíûõ äîçèðîâêàõ/êîìáèíàöèÿõ (òå èñïîëüçîâàòü ìåíüøèå äîçû âìåñòî áîëüøèõ èëè áîëåå "íîâûå" êîìïîíåíòû ýñòðîãåíîâ, ÏÃ), òîãäà êàê â àíãëèéñêîé âåðñèè Combinations of hormones with other treatment regimens may be of benefit ïðåäïîëàãàþòñÿ ïðåèìóùåñòâà êîìáèíàöèè ÇÃÒ ñ äðóãèìè âèäàìè ëåê. òåðàïèè, êàê ïîíèìàþ, ñ òå ìè æå ñòàòèíàìè èëè àíòèòðîìáîòèêàìè.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 19.04.2004, 13:37
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 113,375
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 32,307 ðàç(à) çà 31,401 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Äà , åñòü â äðóãîì ìåñòå è ïðÿìàÿ îøèáêà â ïåðåâîäå ( ÿ íå çíàëà . êàê ëó÷øå ñïðàâèòñÿ ñ òåðìèíîëîãèåé , ìû îáñóäèì ñ Òàòüÿíîé ) , ñîáåðåìñÿ ñ ñèëàìè ñ êîììåíòàðèåì . ïðîäîëæèì .
Íó , ïðîäîëæàþ êîììåíòàðèé .
Èòàê , îñíîâíàÿ çàäà÷à áûëà äîêàçàòü , ÷òî ÇÃÒ , íàçíà÷åííàÿ ïðàêòè÷åñêè ËÞÁÎÉ æåíùèíå ( êðèòåðèè âêëþ÷åíèÿ WHI î÷åíü ðàçìûòû , â òîì ÷èñëå è â ïîçäíåé ïîñòìåíîïàóçå , ìîæåò ñòàòü îñíîâíûì ïðîôèëàêòè÷åñêèì ñðåäñòâîì , è òîãäà çäðàâîîõðàíåíèå ÄÎËÆÍÎ âëîæèòü äåíüãè â ïåðâîî÷åðåäíîå îáåñïå÷åíèå âñå íîâûõ è íîâûõ êîãîðò ñòàðåþùèõ äàì ÇÃÒ ,ýêîíîìÿ òåì ñàìûì ( ãèïîòåçà )íà àîðòî- êîðîíàðíûõ øóíòàõ , óõîäó çà äåìåíòíûìè , ëå÷åíèþ ïåðåëîìîâ è ïð.
Ôèðìà , ïðîèçâîäÿùàÿ îñíîâíûå ïðåïàðàòû äëÿ ÇÃÒ â Øòàòàõ ( â ñêîáêàõ çàìåòèì - è íà÷àâøàÿ ïðîèçâîäñòâî SERM' îâ ) âêëþ÷åíà â èññëåäâîàíèå è âòîðûì èñòî÷íèêîì ôèíàíñèðîâàíèÿ ÿâëÿåòñÿ ãîñóäàðñòâî ( çäåñü íå óâåðåíà â ïðîïîðöèÿõ - íî èñòî÷íèêè ôèíàíñèðîâàíèÿ ÈÇÂÅÑÒÍÛ ) Èçâåñòíû êðèòåðèè âêëþ÷åíèÿ \ èñêëþ÷åíèÿ , äèçàéí , ñòàòèñòè÷åñêèå ïîäõîäû - ñëîâîì , åñòü ñóáñòðàò äëÿ îáóæäåíèÿ ( à íå íàøå ëþáèìîå - äà Âû èì ïîçâîíèòå , óçíàéòå ) .
È ÷òî ïîëó÷èëîñü - â ïîäîáðàííûõ ãðóïïàõ ÀÁÑÎËÞÒÍÎ ÏÎÄÒÂÅÐÆÄÅÍÍÛÉ ïðîôèëàêòè÷åñêèé ýôôåêò ïî âëèÿíèþ íà ïåðåëîìû è êîëîðåêòàëüíûé ðàê ÍÅ ïåðåâåøèâàåò ñîñóäèñòûõ ïðîáëåì ,
À âîò òåïåðü íåóäà÷íûé ïåðåâîä - À power .... è òä
Êàê ÿ ïîíèìàþ , ñìûñë ñëåäóþùèé - ñòàòèñòè÷åñêàÿ ìîùíîñòü èññëåäîâíàèÿ WHI äÅÑßÒÈÊÐÀÒÍÎ ìåíüøå ïî îòíîøåíèþ ê ãðóïïå æåíùèí â ïåðèîä ðàííåé ìåíîïàóçû , ÷åì ìîùíîñòü èññëåäîâàíèÿ "çäîðîâüå ñåñòåð" , ãäå êàðäèîïðîòåêòèâíûé ýôôåêò áûë îäíîçíà÷íî ïîêàçàí .
Ìû ìíîãî ðàç îáñóæäàëè àëãîðèòì ïðèíÿòèÿ ðåøåíèÿ ïðè ïðîòèâîðå÷èè â èññëåäîâàíèÿõ , è íà ýòîì ïðèìåðå , ñ ïîìîùüþ Òàòüÿíû . ìû ïîêàçûâàåì - äàæå ñåðüåçíåéøåå èññëåäîâàíèå ÍÅ îñòàåòñÿ ÂÍÅ êðèòèêè è âíå äèñêóññèè , è èìåííî ãðàìîòíàÿ äèñêóññèÿ . çàòðàãèâàþùàÿ âñå ñòîðîíû ( íå ïðîìîë÷ó - â öåëè HERS íå ñòàâèëñÿ âîïðîñ îâëèÿíèè íà ñàõàðíûé äèàáåò , íî post hoc âûÿñíèëîñü , ÷òî ÇÃÒ â HERS - ãðóïïå ÄÈÀÁÅÒÎÏÐÎÒÅÊÒÎÐÍÀ ( óæ ïðîñòèòå çà íåîëîãèçì ) - íî ýòîò ýôôåêò íà ÷àøó âåñîâ íå êëàëè .
Î÷åíü ñåðüåçíî òðåáîâàíèå ïóáëèêàöèè ÂÑÅÃÎ ôàêòîëîãè÷åñêîãî ïóëà äëÿ íåçàâèñèìîé ýêñïåðòèçû - ýòî è åñòü evidence based .
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 19.04.2004, 14:53
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 75,149
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 30,789 ðàç(à) çà 29,227 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Óâàæàåìàÿ Ãàëèíà Àôàíàñüåâíà!

Íåêîòîðûå ïðîòèâîðå÷èÿ: íåñìîòðÿ íà òî, ÷òî ñòàò. ñèëà èññëåäîâàíèÿ Nurses' Health Study è ïîâûøå, ÷åì ïîñëåäíèõ WHI, íåñìîòðÿ íà òî, ÷òî îíî áûëî ïðîñïåêòèâíûì íåêîíòðîëèðóåìûì - ìåäñåñòðû â îïðîñíèêàõ ñîîáùàëè ÷òî ïðèíèìàëè êîíòðàöåïòèâû "äîëãî - íå äîëãî" "â ïðîøëîì - è ñåé÷àñ" (äîçèðîâêà è âèä ïðåïàðàòà åñòåñòâåííî íèêàê íå ó÷èòûâàëèñü - ãîäû-òî áûëè 1976-88), íî ñîãëàñíî ðàííèì ìåòà-àíàëèçàì ýòî èññëåäîâàíèå äîñòîâåðíî íèêàê íå âëèÿëî íà ÑÑÇ:

N Engl J Med. 1988 Nov 17;319(20):1313-7.

A prospective study of past use of oral contraceptive agents and risk of cardiovascular diseases.

Stampfer MJ, Willett WC, Colditz GA, Speizer FE, Hennekens CH.

Department of Medicine, Harvard Medical School, Brigham and Women's Hospital, Boston, MA.

We evaluated the effects of past use of oral contraceptive agents on the risk of various cardiovascular diseases among women in the Nurses' Health Study cohort. We studied 119,061 women who were 30 to 55 years of age in 1976, who provided information on their use of oral contraceptives, and who at entry had had no previous coronary disease or stroke. End points were documented by medical records. During eight years of follow-up (484,096 person-years among those who had never used oral contraceptives, 415,488 among past users, and 22,376 among current users), there were 485 new cases of major coronary disease (380 nonfatal myocardial infarctions and 105 deaths from coronary disease), 282 strokes (205 nonfatal and 77 fatal), and 48 other deaths from cardiovascular causes. We found no evidence to suggest an increase in the risk of cardiovascular diseases among past users of oral contraceptives, even with prolonged previous use. After adjustment for a variety of risk factors, the relative risk of major coronary disease for women who had used oral contraceptives in the past, as compared with those who had never used such agents, was 0.8 (95 percent confidence interval, 0.6 to 1.0); of stroke, 1.0 (95 percent confidence interval, 0.7 to 1.3); and of death from all cardiovascular causes, 0.9 (95 percent confidence interval, 0.7 to 1.2). We found neither evidence of increased risk with longer use nor any trend with the amount of time since the last use. According to these prospective data, the use of oral contraceptive agents in the past does not materially raise a woman's risk of subsequent cardiovascular disease.

È îò äèàáåòà îíî òàê ñåáå ïðåäîõðàíÿëî:

Diabetologia. 1992 Oct;35(10):967-72.
Oral contraceptive use and the risk of type 2 (non-insulin-dependent) diabetes mellitus in a large prospective study of women.

Rimm EB, Manson JE, Stampfer MJ, Colditz GA, Willett WC, Rosner B, Hennekens CH, Speizer FE.

Department of Epidemiology, Harvard School of Public Health, Boston, Massachusetts.

We examined the association between oral contraceptive use and incidence of Type 2 (non-insulin-dependent) diabetes mellitus among 115117 female nurses free of diabetes, cardiovascular disease and cancer in 1976 and followed-up for 12 years. During 1237440 person years of follow-up, 2276 women who provided information on oral contraceptive use were clinically diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes. Women who used oral contraceptives in the past had only a slight and marginally increased relative risk of 1.10 (95% confidence interval 1.01, 1.21) compared to those women who had never used oral contraceptives after controlling for known risk factors of disease. We found no evidence of increased risk with longer duration of use or with shorter interval since last use. Current users did not have an increased risk of Type 2 diabetes (relative risk = 0.86, 95% confidence interval 0.46, 1.61) when compared to women who had never used the drug. There was no effect modification by obesity, family history of diabetes, or physical activity. These data suggest that past or current oral contraceptive use does not substantially influence subsequent risk of Type 2 diabetes.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 19.04.2004, 14:53
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 75,149
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 30,789 ðàç(à) çà 29,227 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ïðàâäà, áîëåå ïîçäíèé àíàëèç ïîêàçàë çíà÷èìîñòü âðåìåííûõ ðàìîê:

Annals Of Internal Medicine
Volume 135, Issue 1, July 3, 2001, Pages 1-8
Postmenopausal hormone use and secondary prevention of coronary events in the nurses' health study. a prospective, observational study
Grodstein, F; Manson, J E; Stampfer, M J

Channing Laboratory, 181 Longwood Avenue, Boston, MA 02115, USA

BACKGROUND: The Heart and Estrogen/progestin Replacement Study (HERS) was the first randomized clinical trial of combined hormone therapy and secondary prevention of coronary events. The trial had overall null results but reported an unexpected increased risk for recurrent events in the initial year, followed by a decrease during the final years. OBJECTIVE: To provide additional data on a time trend in risk for recurrent heart disease. DESIGN: A prospective, observational cohort study of secondary prevention of coronary heart disease. SETTING: Nurses' Health Study. PATIENTS: 2489 postmenopausal women with previous myocardial infarction or documented atherosclerosis; 213 cases of recurrent nonfatal myocardial infarction or coronary death were identified from 1976 through 1996. MEASUREMENTS: Information on hormone status and on recurrent disease was collected by using biennial questionnaires. Multivariable-adjusted relative risks and 95% CIs were calculated from logistic regression models. RESULTS: A trend of decreasing risk for recurrent major coronary heart disease events with increasing duration of hormone use was observed (P for trend = 0.002). For short-term current users, the multivariate-adjusted relative risk for major coronary heart disease was 1.25 (95% CI, 0.78 to 2.00) compared with never-users. However, after longer-term hormone use, the rate of second events was lower in current users than in never-users (relative risk, 0.38 [CI, 0.22 to 0.66]). No clear differences emerged between users of estrogen alone and users of estrogen combined with progestin. Overall, with up to 20 years of follow-up, the relative risk for a second event among current users of hormone therapy was 0.65 (CI, 0.45 to 0.95) compared with never-users. CONCLUSIONS: The risk for recurrent major coronary events seems to increase among short-term hormone users with previous coronary disease but to decrease with longer-term use.

Êàêóþ æå èç ïóáëèêàöèé ïðèíÿòü âî âíèìàíèå âðà÷ó? Ïîçäíèå, ðàííèå, êàê îòíîñèòüñÿ ê îáñåðâàöèîííûì èññëåäîâàíèÿì vs ðàíäîìèçèðîâàííûì?

Observational studies, reliable or not?
It is well established that non-randomized observational studies are subject to some biases. One of them is a selection bias which means that healthier women are more likely to start the use of HRT ("healthy woman effect"). Another one is compliance or adherence bias which refers a puzzling phenomenon that any "regimen" or "safe study procedure" improves the prognosis of any patients. Therefore, we can claim that all evidence obtained in non-randomized clinical studies is not scientifically sound. This criticism has been argued by saying that non-randomized observation studies well reflect the real clinical stituation and that their data are represenative and reliable if only treated professionally for all confounding variables. Moreover, it has been questioned if it is really possible to perform a randomized placebo-controlled trial (RCT) with HRT on symptomatic postmenopausal women. There are many who regard it unethical to randomize sweating women to placebo arm when it is any way well established that HRT can abolish hot flushes. HRT also undoubtedly improves the bone and urogenital conditions.. It is also clear that the code of a treatment (HRT or placebo) will be revealed to both patients and investigators during the trial, and then, in fact, the biggest advantage of RCT bomes lost.

Èç Maturitas. 2004 Apr 15;47(4):315-8.
HRT as secondary prevention of cardiovascular disease.
Ylikorkala O.
Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Helsinki University Central Hospital

Ïîêà áóäóò ëîìàòüñÿ êîïüÿ è ïëàíèðîâàòüñÿ íîâûå îêîí÷àòåëüíûå ÐÊÈ (â êîòîðûõ óæå ê îêîí÷àíèþ ÷åðåç 4-6 ëåò îïÿòü îáíàðóæàòñÿ èçüÿíû), ñîâðåìåííîìó äîêòîðó ñàìîìó ïðèäåòñÿ ðåøàòü, ÷òî èç ëå÷åíèÿ ñîâåòîâàòü, äà åùå ïðåäóïðåäèâ îá ïîòåíöèàëüíûõ áåíåôèòàõ/îïàñíîñòÿõ ïàöèåíòêó, äàáû îíà ïîó÷àñòâîâàëà â âûáîðå, ÷òî æå åé ëó÷øå...
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Ñòàðûé 19.04.2004, 18:48
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
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Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 113,375
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 32,307 ðàç(à) çà 31,401 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ñòîï ! Äîãîâîðèìñÿ , ÷òî ÊÎÊ - ýòî íå ÇÃÒ , è íå áóäåì ñìåøèâàòü ...
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Ñòàðûé 20.04.2004, 10:14
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 75,149
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 30,789 ðàç(à) çà 29,227 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Âñå æå, ó÷èòûâàÿ ... we previously reported a twofold increase in the risk for pulmonary embolism among current hormone users and a similar increase in the risk for cholecystectomy... è ïîâûøåíèå ðèñêà íà 25% (à òî è âñå 50%, ïðèíèìàÿ äàííûå HERS) â ïåðâûé ãîä ïðèåìà ÇÃÒ àâòîðû (Grodstein F, Manson JE, Stampfer MJ.) ñòàòüè äåëàþò çàêëþ÷åíèå: ...In conclusion, results from HERS and the Nurses’ Health Study, a large prospective, observational study, suggest that hormone therapy increases risk for a recurrent coronary event in the short term and that hormone therapy should not be initiated solely for prevention of recurrent heart disease.
Êàêèå ðåàëüíûå ñîâåòû ìîæíî äàòü äîêòîðàì, ÷òî áû â áëàãèõ öåëÿõ ïðåäóïðåæäåíèÿ àòåðîñêëåðîçà, íå "ïîòåðÿòü" ïàöèåíòêó â òå÷åíèè ïåðâîãî ãîäà èëè îò ýìáîëèè? Ðåêîìåíäîâàòü âñåì ñòàòèíû è âàðôàðèí ïîæèçíåííî íà ôîíå ÇÃÒ?
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