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Îïöèè òåìû Ïîèñê â ýòîé òåìå Îïöèè ïðîñìîòðà
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Ñòàðûé 05.02.2010, 11:38
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
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Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
generic inverse variance method ??? Íå ìîãó íàéòè íàø ðàçäåë ñ ïîìîùüþ â ïåðâîäå , à íóæíî ñðî÷íî !! Åñëè ñóïåðìîäåðàòîðû ïîïðàâÿò - ñïàñèáî !
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 05.02.2010, 12:11
LupusDoc LupusDoc âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
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LupusDoc ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLupusDoc ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLupusDoc ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLupusDoc ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLupusDoc ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLupusDoc ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLupusDoc ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLupusDoc ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLupusDoc ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLupusDoc ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLupusDoc ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Melnichenko Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
generic inverse variance method ??? Íå ìîãó íàéòè íàø ðàçäåë ñ ïîìîùüþ â ïåðâîäå , à íóæíî ñðî÷íî !! Åñëè ñóïåðìîäåðàòîðû ïîïðàâÿò - ñïàñèáî !
Îáû÷íî äëÿ ìåòà-àíàëèçà - ìåòîä îáúåäèíåíèÿ äàííûõ íà îñíîâàíèè âçâåøèâàíèÿ îáðàòíî-ïðîïîðöèîíàëüíî äèñïåðñèè âåëè÷èíû ýôôåêòà â èíäèâèäóàëüíîì èññëåäîâàíèè. Óñòîÿâøåãîñÿ ðóññêîãî ýêâèâàëåíòà íå çíàþ, ïåðåâåë áû êàê
"[...ñ èñïîëüçîâàíèåì] îáùåãî ìåòîäà âçâåøèâàíèÿ îáðàòíûõ äèñïåðñèé".

Ïîÿñíåíèÿ:
The inverse variance method of meta-analysis is a widely applicable approach to meta-analysis. It involves a weighted average of the effect estimates from the separate studies. The weight for each study is taken to be the inverse of the variance (one divided by the square of the standard error) of the effect estimate.

A Generic inverse variance outcome requires two numbers: an effect estimate and its standard error for each of the trials to be combined. The effect estimate summarises the treatment effect in a clinical trial (for example as an odds ratio, a mean difference or a hazard ratio) and the standard error summarises the precision of the estimate (the sampling error within the study). These numbers may be used to perform a meta-analysis to combine results across multiple studies using the inverse variance method.
The Generic inverse variance outcome should be used only when it is impossible or inappropriate to enter data as dichotomous, continuous or individual patient data.

The most likely situations are:
◊ special study designs such as cross-over trials and other matched designs, cluster randomized trials or non-randomized studies
◊ special types of outcome such as time-to-event outcomes, ordinal outcomes or rates (events per unit time)
◊ special effect measures, such as hazard ratios, ratios of means or adjusted estimates.

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
Melnichenko îäîáðèë(à): Ñïàñèáî îò ìåíÿ è îò Êàíäðîðà
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #168  
Ñòàðûé 05.02.2010, 22:13
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.IrMa
Dr.IrMa Dr.IrMa âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 11.12.2006
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7,352
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,654 ðàç(à) çà 1,604 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Äîðîãèå êîëëåãè!

Ïîìîãèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà.

Èìåþ âîïðîñû ïî ïåðåâîäó:

1.  ÷åì ðàçíèöà ìåæäó congenital malformations è major malformations?

2. Êàê ëó÷øå îáîçâàòü "state anxiety score"?

3. ×òî îçíà÷àåò "More timely suppression"? ïî êîíòåêñòó ðå÷ü èäåò îá àíàëîãàõ ÃíÐà â îòíîøåíèå ËÃ.


ÑÏÀÑÈÁÎ ÁÎËÜØÎÅ çà ïîìîùü!
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #169  
Ñòàðûé 06.02.2010, 00:04
Seagull_JL Seagull_JL âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 14.01.2009
Ãîðîä: Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 22
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 1
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1 ðàç çà 1 ñîîáùåíèå
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Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Dr.IrMa Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Äîðîãèå êîëëåãè!

Ïîìîãèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà.

Èìåþ âîïðîñû ïî ïåðåâîäó:

1.  ÷åì ðàçíèöà ìåæäó congenital malformations è major malformations?

2. Êàê ëó÷øå îáîçâàòü "state anxiety score"?

3. ×òî îçíà÷àåò "More timely suppression"? ïî êîíòåêñòó ðå÷ü èäåò îá àíàëîãàõ ÃíÐà â îòíîøåíèå ËÃ.
1. "âðîæä¸ííûå ïîðîêè ðàçâèòèÿ" è "êðóïíûå ïîðîêè ðàçâèòèÿ". Êîíòåêñò ìîã áû óòî÷íèòü. Âî âñÿêîì ñëó÷àå, ÿ íàø¸ë major congenital malformations, îçíà÷àþùèé "êðóïíûå âðîæä¸ííûå ïîðîêè ðàçâèòèÿ".
2. "îöåíêà ñîñòîÿíèÿ òðåâîæíîñòè" "îöåíêà ñèòóàòèâíîé òðåâîæíîñòè" èëè ïðîñòî "îöåíêà òðåâîæíîñòè"
3. ââèäó íåçíàêîìñòâà ñ êîíòåêñòîì íå çíàþ. ×òî-òî òèïà "áîëåå ñâîåâðåìåííîå ïîäàâëåíèå"
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #170  
Ñòàðûé 06.02.2010, 00:11
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad íà ôîðóìå
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,380
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,226 ðàç(à) çà 31,576 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Birth defects are physical abnormalities that are present at birth; they are also called congenital abnormalities...

Major defects are structural abnormalities that affect the way a person looks and require medical and/or surgical treatment. Minor defects are abnormalities that do not cause serious health or social problems.
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Èñêðåííå,
Âàäèì Âàëåðüåâè÷.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #171  
Ñòàðûé 06.02.2010, 00:15
Seagull_JL Seagull_JL âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
Íà÷èíàþùèé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 14.01.2009
Ãîðîä: Ñàíêò-Ïåòåðáóðã
Ñîîáùåíèé: 22
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 1
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1 ðàç çà 1 ñîîáùåíèå
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Äà, òàê ëó÷øå, ïîñêîëüêó çàäàí êðèòåðèé ÷òî çíà÷èò major.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #172  
Ñòàðûé 06.02.2010, 00:15
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.IrMa
Dr.IrMa Dr.IrMa âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 11.12.2006
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7,352
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,654 ðàç(à) çà 1,604 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Æàëêî, ÷òî çäåñü íå ðàáîòàåò îäîáðÿëêà.

ÑÏÀÑÈÁÎ, êîëëåãè!!!

Ââèäó òîãî, ÷òî ïåðåâîäèòñÿ ïðåçåíòàöèÿ, êàê òàêîâîãî ñòðóêòóðèðîâàííîãî ïðåäëîæåíèÿ íåò.
Äà è íå ôàêò, ÷òî àâòîð - íîñèòåëü ÿçûêà. Õîòÿ, íå çíàåøü, êòî êîñÿ÷èò áîëüøå - íîñèòåëü èëè òîò, êòî ó÷èë ÿçûê êàê íåðîäíîé.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 06.02.2010, 00:19
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.IrMa
Dr.IrMa Dr.IrMa âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 11.12.2006
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 7,352
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 1,654 ðàç(à) çà 1,604 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.IrMa ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Íó äà, ïî ïðîöåíòàì èç òàáëèöû ïîëó÷àåòñÿ
congenital malformations - 7%,
major malformations - 3%.
Òàê ÷òî âñå ñõîäèòñÿ.

À î ïîäàâëåíèè ñåêðåöèè ËÃ, ðå÷ü èäåò î òîì,
÷òî ïðè èñïîëüçîâàíèè àãîíèñòîâ ÃíÐà ñíà÷àëà íàáëþäàåòñÿ "flare up", ò.å. ôàçà àêòèâàöèè ñåêðåöèè ãîíàäîòðîïèíîâ, à ïîòîì äåñåíñèòèçàöèÿ.
Ïðè ïðèìåíåíèè æå àíòàãîíèñòîâ ÃíÐà â ïðîòîêîëàõ ÝÊÎ ïðîèñõîäèò íåìåäëåííîå ïîäàâëåíèå ñåêðåöèè ËÃ, ÷òî òàê ñêàçàòü "áîëåå â êàññó".
Êàê ðàç ïðî âëèÿíèå àíòàãîíèñòîâ íà ËÃ è áûëî ñêàçàíî more timely supression.


ÅÙÅ ÐÀÇ ÑÏÀÑÈÁÎ ÎÃÐÎÌÅÍÍÎÅ!
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À âîò òåïåðü ó ìåíÿ âîïðîñ.
 èçâåñòíîé ïåñíå "Jingle bells" åñòü ñòðî÷êà: "Bells on bob-tail ring".
Êàê å¸ ïåðåâåñòè?
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Ñòàðûé 09.02.2010, 11:19
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Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
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Vlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Âñå æå íå ñîâñåì ôîðóì ïî àíãëèéñêîìó ÿçûêó âîîáùå. È ìîæíî áûëî ñäåëàòü [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
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Ñòàðûé 09.02.2010, 19:37
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Íå ïî àíãëèéñêîìó - ëàäíî. Äðóãîé âîïðîñ, ÷òî ïðåäëîæåííûé ñïîñîá íå ðàáîòàåò.
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Vlad34 Vlad34 âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
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Vlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Âñå ðàáîòàåò. Ãóãë çíàåò ïåðåâîä ïåñåíêè Jingle bells. Ýòî ôàêò.
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Ñòàðûé 09.02.2010, 21:00
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ß åãî òîæå çíàþ.
Íî êîíêðåòíî äàííàÿ ñòðî÷êà ïåðåâîäèòñÿ ñàìûì ðàçíûì îáðàçîì. ×òî òàêîå áîáòåéë ðèíã? Çàâèòêè íà îáðåçàííîì õâîñòå? Êîëüöî âîêðóã çàäíèöû êîíÿ? Èëè âîîáùå êîëîêîëü÷èê â àíóñå? (Òàêîé ïåðåâîä òîæå âîçìîæåí, íî âðÿäëè òàêîâ.) È çäåñü ãóãë íå ïîìîãàåò.
Êàê ìíå îáúÿñíèòü ýòî ðåá¸íêó, êîòîðûé ó÷èò ïåñíþ?

Âî èçáåæàíèå ôëåéìà ïóñòü òîò, êòî çíàåò îòâåòèò, èëè ïóñòü ìîäåðàòîðû óäàëÿò ñâÿçàíûå ïîñòû.
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Ñòàðûé 09.02.2010, 21:16
Vlad34 Vlad34 âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
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Vlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåVlad34 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Åñëè äîñëîâíî: "Çâåíÿò êîëîêîëü÷èêè íà îáðåçàííûõ/ïîäñòðèæåííûõ õâîñòàõ..." Âàðèàíò "Çâåíÿò êîëîêîëü÷èêè íà óïðÿæè..." ÈÌÕÎ íàèáîëåå ïîëèòêîððåêòíûé.
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