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Îïöèè òåìû Ïîèñê â ýòîé òåìå Îïöèè ïðîñìîòðà
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Ñòàðûé 02.07.2011, 15:23
Àâàòàð äëÿ Light
Light Light âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âåòåðàí ôîðóìà
      
 
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Light ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåLight ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Íîâûå ïåðñïåêòèâû â ëå÷åíèè äèàáåòà 2-ãî òèïà

Â÷åðà â Ñàí-Äèåãî:
Öèòàòà:
By Kristina Fiore, Staff Writer, MedPage Today
Published: July 01, 2011


SAN DIEGO -- An investigational compound with a novel mechanism of action appears to improve glycemic control in type 2 diabetes, early studies showed.

Patients on several different doses of TAK-875 lowered their HbA1c at rates comparable to those on glimepiride, Prabhakar Viswanathan, MD, PhD, of Takeda Global Research and Development, reported at the American Diabetes Association meeting here.

All of the authors on the phase II study were company employees.

The dose effect appears to plateau at around 50 mcg, Viswanathan said.

The drug is a selective G-protein-coupled receptor 40 (GPR40) agonist, and is the first in its class to reach clinical development.

G-protein-coupled receptors are expressed in pancreatic islet cells, and the goal of this drug is to modulate them to selectively improve glucose-dependent insulin secretion, Viswanathan explained.

He and his colleagues conducted a randomized, double-blind, placebo and active control, parallel-group, multicenter study to evaluate the GPR40 agonist's safety and efficacy at five doses (6.25 mcg, 25 mcg, 50 mcg, 100 mcg, and 200 mcg) over 12 weeks.

About 75% of the 426 patients were also on background metformin.

The primary endpoint was change in baseline HbA1c at week 12, and other endpoints including changes in A1c over time, fasting plasma glucose, oral glucose tolerance, and incidence of hypoglycemia.

Viswanathan and colleagues found that patients on all doses of the drug had greater reductions in HbA1c than did those on placebo – and those on 50 mcg or more had declines comparable to that of glimepiride.

Twice as many patients treated with more than 25 mcg had an HbA1c below 7% by the end of the study, Viswanathan added. He also noted that changes from baseline in fasting plasma glucose and an oral glucose tolerance test were consistent with changes in HbA1c.

Viswanathan said beta cell function also appeared to improve, as HOMA-beta scores were significantly higher for those on 50 mcg of the drug or more compared with placebo (P<0.05).

The incidence of hypoglycemia was significantly lower in all of the TAK-875 groups than in the glimepiride group and was similar to the incidence seen in the placebo group (2.3% versus 16.1% versus 3.3%).

Discontinuations because of adverse events were low and similar among all active treatment groups, Viswanathan said.

The results, he concluded, "support further evaluation of this novel compound in the treatment of type 2 diabetes."

Clifford Bailey, PhD, of Aston University in Birmingham, England, said more efforts are being concentrated on improving beta-cell function in type 2 diabetes, and G-protein-coupled receptors are one of those targets.

He noted that these receptors are normally activated by fatty acids and stimulate insulin secretion as well as raise levels of glucagon-like peptide-1 (GLP-1).

By increasing insulin secretion and suppressing glucagon, he said, the drug class "may help address several issues that occur in type 2 diabetes that are yet unaddressed."
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
Sorokin îäîáðèë(à): ñïàñèáî! î÷åíü èíòåðåñíî!
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #2  
Ñòàðûé 04.07.2011, 01:50
Àâàòàð äëÿ Sorokin
Sorokin Sorokin âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ïîñòîÿííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
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Ãîðîä: Íîâîñèáèðñê
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Sorokin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSorokin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSorokin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSorokin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSorokin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSorokin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSorokin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Îëüãà Þðüåâíà, ñïàñèáî áîëüøîå çà íîâóþ èíôîðìàöèþ!
Âûñêàæó ìíåíèå. Íàâåðíîå, ñåêðåòàãîãè ñ ìèíèìàëüíûì ðèñêîì ãèïîãëèêåìèé (ïðàâäà, ðèñê ãèïî ìåíüøå, ÷åì â ãðóïïå ïëàöåáî äàæå íàñòîðàæèâàåò) è íå óñòóïàþùèå ïî ýôôåêòèâíîñòè ïðîèçâîäíûì ñóëüôîíèëìî÷åâèíû äîëæíû ÿâèòüñÿ äëÿ ïîñëåäíèõ äîñòîéíîé àëüòåðíàòèâîé è äàæå ñìåñòèòü èõ ñ ðûíêà. Íî, êàê ìíå êàæåòñÿ, áóäåò íåñêîëüêî "íî":
1) ïðèä¸òñÿ ïðåîäîëåòü âñ¸ âîçðàñòàþùèå âûñî÷àéøèå òðåáîâàíèÿ ïî áåçîïàñíîñòè, ïðåäúÿâëÿåìûå ñåãîäíÿ ê ñàõàðîñíèæàþùèì ïðåïàðàòàì
2) äîëæíî ïðîéòè íåìàëî âðåìåíè äëÿ ïîëó÷åíèÿ äîêàçàòåëüñòâ ïî ïåðâè÷íûì êîíå÷íûì òî÷êàì
3) äëÿ çàâîåâàíèÿ øèðîêîãî ðûíêà GPR40 ïðèä¸òñÿ êàê ìèíèìóì çàî÷íî ñõëåñòíóòüñÿ ñ èíêðåòèíàìè, ïîáåäà íàä êîòîðûìè êàæåòñÿ (ñóáúåêòèâíî) ñåãîäíÿ ìàëîðåàëüíîé
4) Takeda èçâåñòíà âûñîêèìè öåíàìè (äàæå íå ñìîòðÿ íà îðèãèíàëüíîñòü ïðåïàðàòîâ) íà ñâîè ïðîäóêòû, îãðàíè÷èâàþùèìè âîçìîæíîñòü øèðîêîãî èõ íàçíà÷åíèÿ
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #3  
Ñòàðûé 12.08.2011, 14:37
disdas disdas âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ïîñòîÿííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
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Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 127 ðàç(à) çà 123 ñîîáùåíèé
disdas ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådisdas ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådisdas ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådisdas ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådisdas ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ìåòôîðìèí ôîðåâà?

Mortality and cardiovascular risk associated with different insulin secretagogues compared with metformin in type 2 diabetes, with or without a previous myocardial infarction: a nationwide study
Aims The impact of insulin secretagogues (ISs) on long-term major clinical outcomes in type 2 diabetes remains unclear. We examined mortality and cardiovascular risk associated with all available ISs compared with metformin in a nationwide study.
Methods and results All Danish residents >20 years, initiating single-agent ISs or metformin between 1997 and 2006 were followed for up to 9 years (median 3.3 years) by individual-level linkage of nationwide registers. All-cause mortality, cardiovascular mortality, and the composite of myocardial infarction (MI), stroke, and cardiovascular mortality associated with individual ISs were investigated in patients with or without previous MI by multivariable Cox proportional-hazard analyses including propensity analyses. A total of 107 806 subjects were included, of whom 9607 had previous MI. Compared with metformin, glimepiride (hazard ratios and 95% confidence intervals): 1.32 (1.24–1.40), glibenclamide: 1.19 (1.11–1.28), glipizide: 1.27 (1.17–1.38), and tolbutamide: 1.28 (1.17–1.39) were associated with increased all-cause mortality in patients without previous MI. The corresponding results for patients with previous MI were as follows: glimepiride: 1.30 (1.11–1.44), glibenclamide: 1.47 (1.22–1.76), glipizide: 1.53 (1.23–1.89), and tolbutamide: 1.47 (1.17–1.84). Results for gliclazide [1.05 (0.94–1.16) and 0.90 (0.68–1.20)] and repaglinide and [0.97 (0.81–1.15) and 1.29 (0.86–1.94)] were not statistically different from metformin in both patients without and with previous MI, respectively. Results were similar for cardiovascular mortality and for the composite endpoint.
Conclusion Monotherapy with the most used ISs, including glimepiride, glibenclamide, glipizide, and tolbutamide, seems to be associated with increased mortality and cardiovascular risk compared with metformin. Gliclazide and repaglinide appear to be associated with a lower risk than other ISs
Èñòî÷íèê:[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]

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Sorokin îäîáðèë(à):
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #4  
Ñòàðûé 12.08.2011, 21:53
Àâàòàð äëÿ o_udovichenko
o_udovichenko o_udovichenko âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
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o_udovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåo_udovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåo_udovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåo_udovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåo_udovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåo_udovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåo_udovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåo_udovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåo_udovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåo_udovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåo_udovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Sorokin Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
3) äëÿ çàâîåâàíèÿ øèðîêîãî ðûíêà GPR40 ïðèä¸òñÿ êàê ìèíèìóì çàî÷íî ñõëåñòíóòüñÿ ñ èíêðåòèíàìè, ïîáåäà íàä êîòîðûìè êàæåòñÿ (ñóáúåêòèâíî) ñåãîäíÿ ìàëîðåàëüíîé
Ó èíêðåòèíîâ, ñîãëàñèòåñü, åñòü ñåðüåçíàÿ ïðîáëåìà: ñëàáî HbA1c ñíèæàþò. Ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå, ïî îïóáëèêîâàííûì äàííûì èññëåäîâàíèé - íà 0.5-1%.
 ïðàêòèêå - ÿ íå âèäåë ñèëüíîãî ñàõàðîñíèæàþùåãî ýôôåêòà îò íèõ.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #5  
Ñòàðûé 13.08.2011, 00:49
Àâàòàð äëÿ Sorokin
Sorokin Sorokin âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ïîñòîÿííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 03.01.2010
Ãîðîä: Íîâîñèáèðñê
Ñîîáùåíèé: 398
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 16
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 111 ðàç(à) çà 96 ñîîáùåíèé
Sorokin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSorokin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSorokin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSorokin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSorokin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSorokin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSorokin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò o_udovichenko Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Ó èíêðåòèíîâ, ñîãëàñèòåñü, åñòü ñåðüåçíàÿ ïðîáëåìà: ñëàáî HbA1c ñíèæàþò. Ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå, ïî îïóáëèêîâàííûì äàííûì èññëåäîâàíèé - íà 0.5-1%.
 ïðàêòèêå - ÿ íå âèäåë ñèëüíîãî ñàõàðîñíèæàþùåãî ýôôåêòà îò íèõ.
À ìíå, íàïðîòèâ, êàçàëîñü 0.5-1% - çàíèæåííûé ïîêàçàòåëü, íà ïðàêòèêå ÷àñòî âèæó ãîðàçäî áîëüøèé ýôôåêò , êîòîðûé ïî âûðàæåííîñòè ïîëîæèòåëüíî êîððåëèðóåò ñ èñõîäíûì óðîâíåì HbA1c.

À ÷òî êàñàåòñÿ "ìåòôîðìèíà ôîðåâà", òî ìàêðîñîñóäèñòàÿ ïðîòåêöèÿ ìåòôîðìèíà è êàðäèàëüíûå ðèñêè, àññîöèèðîâàííûå ñ ïðè¸ìîì êîìáèíàöèè ñóëüôîíèëìî÷åâèíû, áûëè äîêàçàíû åù¸ â UKPDS è ïîäòâåðæäåíû â ðÿäå êðóïíûõ ïîñëåäóþùèõ èññëåäîâàíèé. Ó ãëèêëàçèäà è ðàíåå èìåëèñü êîçûðè â ðóêàâå ïî êàðäèîïðîòåêöèè, ñàìûìè êðóïíûìè èç êîòîðûõ áûëè ðåçóëüòàòû STENO II è ADVANCE.

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
ELENA_VLAD îäîáðèë(à): Ñîãëàñíà!
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #6  
Ñòàðûé 13.08.2011, 17:25
Samitin Samitin âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.08.2009
Ãîðîä: Ñàðàòîâ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 2,224
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 8
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Samitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Íàñ÷åò äîâîëüíî óìåðåííîãî ñàõàðîñíèæàþùåãî ýôôåêòà èíêðåòèíîìèìåòèêîâ è DPP-IV-èíãèáèòîðîâ - ñîãëàñåí; âèäèìî, â áîëüøèíñòâå ñëó÷àåâ ýòè ãðóïïû ïðåïàðàòîâ ïîäõîäÿò äëÿ ÑÄ-2 ñ íåáîëüøèì ñòàæåì.
Ñàìîå ãëàâíîå íà ñåãîäíûøíèé äåíü, íàâåðíîå, âîò ýòî:
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Sorokin Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
1) ïðèä¸òñÿ ïðåîäîëåòü âñ¸ âîçðàñòàþùèå âûñî÷àéøèå òðåáîâàíèÿ ïî áåçîïàñíîñòè, ïðåäúÿâëÿåìûå ñåãîäíÿ ê ñàõàðîñíèæàþùèì ïðåïàðàòàì
Òîëüêî çà ïîñëåäíåå âðåìÿ äîáàâëåíû îãðàíè÷åíèÿ ê ãëèòàçîíàì, ëèðàãëóòèäó, íåäàâíî FDA îòëîæèëî ðåãèñòðàöèþ äàïàãëèôëîçèíà, çàïðîñèâ äîïîëíèòåëüíûå ñâåäåíèÿ ïî áåçîïàñíîñòè (ïðåïàðàò ñ î÷åíü èíòåðåñíûì ìåõàíèçìîì äåéñòâèÿ, íåçàâèñèìûì îò ýíäîãåííîãî èíñóëèíà - àêòèâàöèÿ ïî÷å÷íîé ýêñðåöèè ãëþêîçû). Âñ¸ æå èíêðåòèíû åùå íå òàê äàâíî èñïîëüçóþòñÿ â êëèíè÷åñêîé ïðàêòèêå, äóìàþ, ïîíàäîáèòñÿ åùå êàêîå-òî âðåìÿ äëÿ èõ äåòàëüíîãî "îñâîåíèÿ".
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Âàñèëèé Ñàìèòèí,
ýíäîêðèíîëîã
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #7  
Ñòàðûé 30.08.2011, 11:40
Àâàòàð äëÿ o_udovichenko
o_udovichenko o_udovichenko âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 25.05.2007
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 1,052
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 118 ðàç(à) çà 101 ñîîáùåíèé
o_udovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåo_udovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåo_udovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåo_udovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåo_udovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåo_udovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåo_udovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåo_udovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåo_udovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåo_udovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåo_udovichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Âîò, âñòðåòèëàñü èíòåðåñíàÿ äèñêóññèÿ ýêñïåðòîâ íà Medscape (

(ýòà ñòðàíèöà îáùåäîñòóïíà, íî íóæíî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàòüñÿ).

Öèòàòà:
Dr. Blonde: Although once-weekly exenatide, which Dr. Fonseca actually already mentioned, is not presently approved in this country and is undergoing regulatory trials, it has very recently received market authorization in Europe [April 2011]. At the ADA meeting, Malone and colleagues looked at a compilation of trials evaluating the once-weekly form of exenatide. What you see is that in these [DURATION (Diabetes therapy Utilization: Researching changes in A1c, weight, and other factors Through Intervention with exenatide ONce Weekly)] studies, the baseline A1c ranged from 8.1% to 8.5% and there was approximately a 1.5 percentage point improvement in A1c. More than 50% of the people in the trials got to goal [A1c < 7.0%], and there was a significant < > amount of weight loss [average -2.04 kg]. In some of the trials, they compared the once-weekly [formulation] to the twice-a-day exenatide, and the once-weekly was actually somewhat more efficacious.
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Dr. Blonde: There also was a study that addressed what Dr. Horton was talking about earlier where they evaluated the efficacy of once-weekly exenatide compared with a long-acting insulin, insulin glargine. This was an 84-week study in people with type 2 diabetes and they found a modestly greater reduction in A1c with the once-weekly [exenatide] than with insulin glargine [-1.2% (standard error 0.1) vs -1.0% (0.1), P = .029].
Ïðè ýòîì â òîì æå äîêóìåíòå ýêñïåðòû ãîâîðÿò î òîì, ÷òî "ýêçåíàòèä è ëèðàãëþòèä íåñêîëüêî áîëåå ýôôåêòèâíû, ÷åì ïåðîðàëüíûå èíãèáèòîðû ÄÏÏ-4".

Ïîõîæå, ÷òî â êëèíè÷åñêîé ïðàêòèêå ó ïàöèåíòîâ ñ âïåðâûå âûÿâëåííûì ÑÄ2 ìû âèäèì ñî÷åòàíèå ýôôåêòà ïðåïàðàòà è íàøèõ ðåêîìåíäàöèé ïî äèåòå, ñíèæåíèþ âåñà è ò.ï. Ïðè áëàãîïðèÿòíûõ îáñòîÿòåëüñòâàõ è ñåðüåçíîì îòíîøåíèè ïàöèåíòà ýôôåêò ìîæåò áûòü î÷åíü ñèëüíûé
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #8  
Ñòàðûé 30.08.2011, 15:35
Samitin Samitin âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Âðà÷-ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 27.08.2009
Ãîðîä: Ñàðàòîâ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 2,224
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 8
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 765 ðàç(à) çà 691 ñîîáùåíèé
Samitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåSamitin ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò o_udovichenko Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Ïîõîæå, ÷òî â êëèíè÷åñêîé ïðàêòèêå ó ïàöèåíòîâ ñ âïåðâûå âûÿâëåííûì ÑÄ2 ìû âèäèì ñî÷åòàíèå ýôôåêòà ïðåïàðàòà è íàøèõ ðåêîìåíäàöèé ïî äèåòå, ñíèæåíèþ âåñà è ò.ï. Ïðè áëàãîïðèÿòíûõ îáñòîÿòåëüñòâàõ è ñåðüåçíîì îòíîøåíèè ïàöèåíòà ýôôåêò ìîæåò áûòü î÷åíü ñèëüíûé
Êîíå÷íî, äóìàþ, ýòî îñîáåííîñòü âñåõ òðàéëîâ ïðè ó÷àñòèè "drug-naive" ïàöèåíòîâ. Åñëè óäàåòñÿ ñîçäàòü õîðîøóþ ìîòèâàöèþ - ãëèêåìèÿ ìîæåò ñíèæàòüñÿ î÷åíü çíà÷èìî ïðè äîâîëüíî óìåðåííîé ýôôåêòèâíîñòè ñîáñòâåíî ñàõàðîñíèæàþùåé ìåäèêàìåíòîçíîé òåðàïèè.
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ýíäîêðèíîëîã

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