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dmblok dmblok âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
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Ëàðèíãîñêîï

Óâàæàåìûå êîëëåãè, êòî-íèáóäü þçàë òàêîé äåâàéñ:

[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]

[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 10.03.2010, 18:05
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Ãîñòü
 
Ñîîáùåíèé: n/a
×åòî íå ñëûøàë, îò êîëëåã, ÷òîáû êòî-òî ýòî èñïîëüçîâàë. Äëÿ òðóäíîé èíòóáàöèè íà çàïàäå äîñòàòî÷íî ÷àñòî èñïîëüçóåòñÿ ãëàéäîñêîï, âîò åãî ìíîãèå ðåêîìåíäóþò è èñïîëüçóþò ðóòèííî, õîòÿ ñ íèì ïðîöåäóðà èíòóáàöèè ñóùåñòâåííî çàòÿãèâàåòñÿ.

Áûëî èññëåäîâàíèå, â êîòîðîì ñðàâíèâàëèñü ýòè äåâàéñû:

http://bja.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/aen231v1.pdf

Öèòàòà:
Background. The purpose of this study was to evaluate the effectiveness of the Pentax AWSw, Glidescopew, and the Truview EVO2w, in comparison with the Macintosh laryngoscope, when performing tracheal intubation in patients with neck immobilization using manual in-line axial cervical spine stabilization.

Methods. One hundred and twenty consenting patients presenting for surgery requiring tracheal intubation were randomly assigned to undergo intubation using a Macintosh (n¼30), Glidescopew (n¼30), Truview EVO2w (n¼30), or AWSw (n¼30) laryngoscope. All patients were intubated by one of the three anaesthetists experienced in the use of each laryngoscope.

Results. The Glidescopew, AWSw, and Truview EVO2w each reduced the intubation difficulty
score (IDS), improved the Cormack and Lehane glottic view, and reduced the need for optimization
manoeuvres, compared with the Macintosh. The mean IDS was significantly lower
with the Glidescopew and AWSw compared with the Truview EVO2w device, and the IDS was lowest with the AWSw. The duration of tracheal intubation attempts was significantly shorter with the Macintosh compared with the other devices. There were no differences in success rates between the devices tested. The AWSw produced the least haemodynamic stimulation.

Conclusions. The Glidescopew and AWSw laryngoscopes required more time but reduced intubation difficulty and improved glottic view over the Macintosh laryngoscope more than the Truview EVO2w laryngoscope when used in patients undergoing cervical spine immobilization.

Br J Anaesth 2008
Âîò îäèí èç íåäàâíèõ êëèíè÷åñêèõ ñëó÷àåâ èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ ãëàéäîñêîïà ïðè òðóäíûõ äûõàòåëüíûõ ïóòÿõ îò êîëëåãè èç Èçðàèëÿ:

Öèòàòà:
Ñåãîäíÿ.×àñòè÷íàÿ ðåçêöèÿ ÿçûêà è øèðîêàÿ øåéíàÿ äèñåêöèÿ. Çàêðûâàþòñÿ ñóõî.Áîëüíîé ïðîñíóëñÿ íà ñòîëå ýêñòóáèðîâàí.Äûøèò ñâîáîäíî.Ïåðåâîäèì â ðåàíèìàöèþ Õèðóðã ñ íàìè.×åðåç 5 ìèíóò íàõîæëåíèÿ â ðåàíèìàöèè èç ðàíû ñòðóÿ êðîâè.Õèðóðã ïðèæèìàåò ðàíó è âîïèò,÷òîáû ñðî÷íî èíòóáèðîâàëè.Ïîä ïðîïîôîëîì è ñïîíòàííûì äûõàíèåì áîëüíîãîäåëàþ ëèðèíãîñêîïèþ - ñïëîøíîå ìåñèâî.Æåëóäî÷íûé çîíä ,ñòîÿùèé ÷åðåç íîñ, íå ðàçëè÷èì.Óâèäåâ íåêîå ïîäîáèå ýïèãëîòèñà è ñâÿçîê ââîæó òðóáêó â ýòîì íàïðàâëåíèè.Ïðîìàõ ,ÿâíî â ïèùåâîä.ÏÐîäûùàâ áîëüíîãî, âòîðàÿ ïîïûòêà.Êîëëåãà èíòóáèðóåò .Ñêëàäûâàåòñÿ âïå÷àòëåíèå , ÷òî íà ìåñòå.Ñëóøàþ- ñëûøó íåêîå ïîäîáèå äûõàíèÿ.Ê êàïíîëîãó íå ïäêëþ÷èëè.Ñðî÷íî ëåòèì íàçàä â îïåðàöèîííóþ.Ïî ïðèáûòèè â îïåðàöèîííóþ - ñàòóðàöèÿ íà ïîëó.Áîññ ,âñòðåòèâøèé íàñ â îïåðàöèîííîé,óâåðåí, ÷òî òðóáà â ïèùåâîäå.Âûòàñêèâàåò òðóáó,ïûòàåòñÿ âåíòèëèðîâàòü ÷åðåç ìàñêó.Ïîäêàòûâàþò ãëàéäñêîï.Ëàðèíãîñêîïèÿ óñïåøíà , íî òðóáêó óäà¸òñÿïðîâåñòè ñ áîëüøèì òðóäîì - óæåèçâåñòíàÿôèøêà ýòîãî ïðèáîðà.
Ñ îñòàëüíûì ñïðàâèòüñÿ áûëî ëåã÷å...

http://rusanesth.com/forum/index.php...ndpost&p=23563
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 10.03.2010, 19:04
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Smile

×åì-òî íàïîìíèëî, êñòàòè ..

Laryngoscope by Mathieu 1880

An indirect laryngoscope (because the larynx was not seen directly, but indirectly through the reflection of a mirror). The gag reflex would be suppressed using crushed ice (after 1884 cocaine spray was used as a local anaesthetic). The bottom blade of the speculum would hold down the tongue whilst the top blade would be positioned against the soft palate so that a light source would illuminate the mirror. In turn the mirror would reflect back a view of the larynx and glottis. The first laryngoscope was attributed to Manuel Garcia (a Spanish singing professor) in 1854. It was quickly adopted by the medical profession; initially Ludwik Turk in Vienna, Czermak in Budapest and in England Morell Mackenzie pioneered the development of laryngology. This rare French example signed Mathieu Paris (Brevete) probably dates to the last 1/4 of the 19th century

http://www.phisick.com/a7laryngo.htm

[Èçîáðàæåíèÿ äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì]

[Èçîáðàæåíèÿ äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì]
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 10.03.2010, 19:56
KMN KMN âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Çàñëóæåííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.02.2007
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 588
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 27 ðàç(à) çà 26 ñîîáùåíèé
KMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Íàøåë ðîëèê íà þòþáå.
[Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ]
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 10.03.2010, 20:41
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Nathalie
Dr.Nathalie Dr.Nathalie âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ïî÷åòíûé ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 09.08.2003
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 24,881
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 5,532 ðàç(à) çà 4,217 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Òðîãàëà ñåé óæàñ íå÷åëîâå÷åñêèé ðóêàìè íà êàêîé-òî âûñòàâêå. Ïîðàäîâàëàñü, ÷òî â ìëàäåíöà òàêîå íå çàïèõàåøü.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 10.03.2010, 21:29
KMN KMN âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Çàñëóæåííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.02.2007
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 588
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 27 ðàç(à) çà 26 ñîîáùåíèé
KMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Dr.Nathalie Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Òðîãàëà ñåé óæàñ íå÷åëîâå÷åñêèé ðóêàìè íà êàêîé-òî âûñòàâêå. Ïîðàäîâàëàñü, ÷òî â ìëàäåíöà òàêîå íå çàïèõàåøü.
À ÷åì Âàì íå ïîíðàâèëîñü?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #7  
Ñòàðûé 10.03.2010, 21:32
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Nathalie
Dr.Nathalie Dr.Nathalie âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ïî÷åòíûé ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 09.08.2003
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 24,881
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 5,532 ðàç(à) çà 4,217 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Îáúåìîì, êîòîðûé çàíèìàåò ñåé äåâàéñ â ðîòîâîé ïîëîñòè.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #8  
Ñòàðûé 10.03.2010, 21:48
KMN KMN âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Çàñëóæåííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.02.2007
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 588
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 27 ðàç(à) çà 26 ñîîáùåíèé
KMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Dr.Nathalie Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Îáúåìîì, êîòîðûé çàíèìàåò ñåé äåâàéñ â ðîòîâîé ïîëîñòè.
Ïðîèçâîäèòåëü ïèøåò: Narrow Blade Tip for Small Mouths.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #9  
Ñòàðûé 10.03.2010, 21:53
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Nathalie
Dr.Nathalie Dr.Nathalie âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Ïî÷åòíûé ó÷àñòíèê ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 09.08.2003
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 24,881
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 5,532 ðàç(à) çà 4,217 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Nathalie ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Âåðþ, ÷òî ïèøåò. Íî îùóùåíèÿ áûëè èíûå.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #10  
Ñòàðûé 10.03.2010, 23:03
Àâàòàð äëÿ dmblok
dmblok dmblok âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Êàíäèäàò â âåòåðàíû ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 05.11.2006
Ãîðîä: Msk
Ñîîáùåíèé: 1,827
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 6
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 67 ðàç(à) çà 62 ñîîáùåíèé
dmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Íàäåþñü ñêîðî ïîïðîáîâàòü ýòîò ëàðèíãîñêîï â äåéñòâèè è òîãäà ïîäåëþñü âïå÷àòëåíèÿìè.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #11  
Ñòàðûé 10.03.2010, 23:29
zubarew
Ãîñòü
 
Ñîîáùåíèé: n/a
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò dmblok Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Íàäåþñü ñêîðî ïîïðîáîâàòü ýòîò ëàðèíãîñêîï â äåéñòâèè è òîãäà ïîäåëþñü âïå÷àòëåíèÿìè.
Åñëè âû åãî ïðèîáðåòàåòñÿ íà ñâîè ñðåäñòâà - èìõî - äëÿ òåõ æå öåëåé áîëüøå âîçìîæíîñòåé äàåò ãëàéäîñêîï. È ñîîòâåòñòâåííî ýòî îáóñëàâëèâàåò åãî áîëüøóþ ïîïóëÿðíîñòü íà çàïàäå. Áîëåå òðàäèöèîííûé äëÿ ïðîãíîçèðóåìûõ òðóäíûõ äûõàòåëüíûõ ïóòåé - èíòóáàöèÿ â ñîçíàíèè ïî áðîíõîñêîïó - â îáùåì-òî ýòî ñòàíäàðòíàÿ ìàíèïóëÿöèÿ â òàêèõ ñëó÷àÿõ. Ãëàéäîñêîï ííåñêîëüêî øèðå èñïîëüçóåòñÿ â ñëó÷àå íåïðîãíîçèðóåìîé òðóäíîé èíòóáàöèè.

À âîáùå â ñëó÷àå íåïðîãíîçèðóåìîé òðóäíîé èíòóáàöèè â áîëüøèíñòâå ñëó÷àåâ - ïðèîðèòåò âåíòèëÿöèÿ, à íå èíòóáàöèÿ. Ñì. ðåêîìåíäàöèè "Îáùåñòâà Òðóäíûõ Äûõàòåëüíûõ Ïóòåé".
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #12  
Ñòàðûé 11.03.2010, 01:16
KMN KMN âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Çàñëóæåííûé ó÷àñòíèê
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.02.2007
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 588
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 27 ðàç(à) çà 26 ñîîáùåíèé
KMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåKMN ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
À êàêîå óñòðîéñòâî Âû ïîðåêîìåíäóåòå â ñëó÷àÿõ íåîáõîäèìîñòè èíòóáàöèè òðàõåè ó áîëüíûõ ïðè ÑËÐ, êîãäà âðåìÿ èìååò çíà÷åíèå?
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #13  
Ñòàðûé 12.03.2010, 09:20
zubarew
Ãîñòü
 
Ñîîáùåíèé: n/a
Çàâèñèò îò êîíêðåòíûõ óñëîâèé è îáñòîÿòåëüñòâ. Èíòóáèðîâàòü äîëæíû òîëüêî àíåñòåçèîëîãè.

Áûñòðåå âñåãî è ïðîùå áóäåò óñòàíîâèòü ëàðèíãåàëüíóþ ìàñêó. Â ñëåäóþùåé ðåäàêöèè ALS âìåñòî èíòóáàöèè íà äîãîñïèòàëüíîì ýòàïå áóäåò ðåêîìåíäîâàíî èñïîëüçîâàíèè i-gel, èëè LMA Supreme:

[Èçîáðàæåíèÿ äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì]
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #14  
Ñòàðûé 12.03.2010, 10:53
Àâàòàð äëÿ dmblok
dmblok dmblok âíå ôîðóìà ÂÐÀ×
Êàíäèäàò â âåòåðàíû ôîðóìà
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 05.11.2006
Ãîðîä: Msk
Ñîîáùåíèé: 1,827
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 6
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 67 ðàç(à) çà 62 ñîîáùåíèé
dmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìådmblok ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò zubarew Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Åñëè âû åãî ïðèîáðåòàåòñÿ íà ñâîè ñðåäñòâà - èìõî - äëÿ òåõ æå öåëåé áîëüøå âîçìîæíîñòåé äàåò ãëàéäîñêîï. È ñîîòâåòñòâåííî ýòî îáóñëàâëèâàåò åãî áîëüøóþ ïîïóëÿðíîñòü íà çàïàäå.
Ïîïðîáîâàë Truview EVO2 â ðàáîòå. Ïî ìîåìó ìíåíèþ ýòî áîëåå èçÿùíûé è óäîáíûé ëàðèíãîñêîï, ÷åì Macintosh ñ çàìåòíî ëó÷øèì îáçîðîì. Ìåñòà â ðîòîâîé ïîëîñòè îí çàíèìàåò ìåíüøå. Êîíå÷íî, âûâîäû äåëàòü ðàíî è ó÷èòûâàÿ Âàøè ðåêîìåíäàöèè ïðèîáðåòàòü åãî ìû ïîêà íå áóäåì.
Íàøà îñíîâíàÿ ïîòðåáíîñòü - ýòî ÈÂË ó âíåçàïíî óìåðøèõ áîëüíûõ, ÷àñòî â íåïðèñïîñîáëåííûõ äëÿ ýòîãî óñëîâèÿõ è ó "íåïîäãîòîâëåííûõ" áîëüíûõ ñ îñòðîé ëåâîæåëóäî÷êîâîé íåäîñòàòî÷íîñòüþ â ñîçíàíèè.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #15  
Ñòàðûé 12.03.2010, 12:50
zubarew
Ãîñòü
 
Ñîîáùåíèé: n/a
Åñëè âû äåëàåòå èíòóáàöèþ äîñòàòî÷íî ðåäêî, ìîæåò áûòü ýòî è íåïëîõîé âàðèàíò. Òåì áîëåå, åñëè îí Âàì ïîíðàâèëñÿ.
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