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Íóæíà ëè êîððåêòèðîâêà ëå÷åíèÿ àíåìèè?
Äîáðîå âðåìÿ ñóòîê!
Ìåíÿ çîâóò Èðèíà. Âîçðàñò 39 ëåò, ðîñò 158 ñì, âåñ 55 êã. Îáðàòèëàñü ê òåðàïåâòó ñ æàëîáàìè íà ñëàáîñòü, ïîñòîÿííóþ óñòàëîñòü, ñèëüíîå âûïàäåíèå âîëîñ. Áûâàëè è ïðèñòóïû, êîãäà íà ðîâíîì ìåñòå, ïðîñòî íàñòóïàëà òàêàÿ ñëàáîñòü è ãîëîâîêðóæåíèå, ÷òî íå ìîãëà íè ðóêîé ïîøåâåëèòü, íè ãîâîðèòü, ïðîñòî ëåæàëà ñ ïîëóçàêðûòûìè ãëàçàìè. Âðà÷ íàïðàâèë ñäàòü àíàëèçû êðîâè ïî ìíîãèì ïîêàçàòåëÿì. Íèæå ïðèâîæó ðåçóëüòàòû íåêîòîðûõ àíàëèçîâ: 2 ñåíòÿáðÿ 2016 WBC 5.30 1000/uL 3.50 - 10.00 1000/uL ANC (automated diff) 2.3 1000/uL 1.5 - 8.5 1000/uL Red blood cell count 4.35 Million/uL 4.00 - 5.50 Million/uL Hemoglobin 10.2 g/dL 11.4 - 15.4 g/dL Hematocrit 33.1 % 32.8 - 45.6 % MCV 76.1 fL 80.0 - 95.0 fL MCH 23.4 pg 26.0 - 34.0 pg MCHC 30.8 g/dL 32.0 - 35.0 g/dL Red cell distribution width 16.2 % 11.5 - 14.5 % Platelets 470 1000/uL 150 - 450 1000/uL MPV 10.1 fL 9.4 - 12.4 fL Neutrophils 43.6 % 34.0 - 71.1 % Immature granulocytes % 0.2 % 0.0 - 0.5 % Lymphocytes 45.8 % 19.3 - 51.7 % Monocytes 7.5 % 4.7 - 12.5 % Eosinophils 2.1 % 0.7 - 5.8 % Basophils 0.8 % 0.1 - 1.2 % Neutrophils absolute 2.31 10*3/uL 1.56 - 6.13 10*3/uL Lymphs abs 2.43 10*3/uL 1.18 - 3.74 10*3/uL Monocytes abs 0.40 10*3/uL 0.24 - 0.86 10*3/uL Eosinophils absolute 0.11 10*3/uL 0.04 - 0.36 10*3/uL Basophils absolute 0.04 10*3/uL 0.01 - 0.08 10*3/uL Glucose 80 mg/dL 70 - 99 mg/dL BUN, Bld 8 mg/dL 7 - 18 mg/dL Sodium 140 mmol/L 136 - 145 mmol/L Potassium 4.6 mmol/L 3.5 - 5.1 mmol/L Chloride 108 mmol/L 98 - 107 mmol/L CO2 25 mmol/L 21 - 32 mmol/L Anion gap 7 mmol/L 6 - 16 mmol/L Creatinine 0.71 mg/dL 0.51 - 0.95 mg/dL Calcium 8.6 mg/dL 8.5 - 10.1 mg/dL Alkaline phosphatase 47 Units/L 45 - 117 Units/L Total protein 7.5 g/dL 6.4 - 8.2 g/dL Albumin 4.0 g/dL 3.4 - 5.0 g/dL AST (SGOT) 13 Units/L 13 - 37 Units/L ALT (SGPT) 12 Units/L 13 - 56 Units/L Bilirubin total 0.5 mg/dL 0.2 - 1.3 mg/dL TSH reflex 3.610 u[IU]/mL 0.350 - 4.000 u[IU]/mL H pylori antigen stl See Below H. PYLORI ANTIGEN Not Detected Âðà÷ íàçíà÷èë ëå÷åíèå àíåìèè: ferrous gluconate 325 mg (37 mg iron) tablet Instructions: Take 650 mg total (2 tablets) by mouth 2 times daily with meals) indications: iron deficiency anemia Ãëþêîíàò æåëåçà ïðèíèìàþ 2 ìåñÿöà. Ñàìî÷óâñòâèå ñòàëî íàìíîãî ëó÷øå. Ïðèñòóïîâ ñëàáîñòè íå áûëî, íàìíîãî áîëåå àêòèâíàÿ, íî âîëîñû ïðîäîëæàþò âûïàäàòü, ê ñîæàëåíèþ. Ïîïðîñèëà âðà÷à ïîâòîðèòü àíàëèçû. Âîò ðåçóëüòàòû îò 15 íîÿáðÿ 2016: WBC 6.3 1000/uL 3.5 - 10.0 1000/uL Red blood cell count 4.69 Million/uL 4.00 - 5.50 Million/uL Hemoglobin 12.9 g/dL 11.4 - 15.4 g/dL Hematocrit 39.3 % 32.8 - 45.6 % MCV 83.8 fL 80.0 - 95.0 fL MCH 27.5 pg 26.0 - 34.0 pg MCHC 32.8 g/dL 32.0 - 35.0 g/dL Red cell distribution width 18.5 % 11.5 - 14.5 % Platelets 359 1000/uL 150 - 450 1000/uL MPV 10.9 fL 9.4 - 12.4 fL Auto NRBC % 0.0 Iron 105 ug/dL 50 - 170 ug/dL TIBC 390 ug/dL 149 - 491 ug/dL % Fe saturation 27 % 13 - 45 % Ïî ðåçóëüòàòàì àíàëèçîâ âðà÷ îñòàâèë äîçèðîâêó áåç èçìåíåíèé, íè÷åãî íîâîãî íå äîáàâèë. ×èòàÿ òåìû ôîðóìà, îáðàòèëà âíèìàíèå, ÷òî âðà÷è çäåñü íàçíà÷àþò ïðåïàðàòû æåëåçà ñîâìåñòíî ñ öèíêîì èëè âèòàìèíîì Ñ. Íåîáõîäèìî ëè ìíå ýòî? Áåñïîêîèò, ÷òî âîëîñû ïðîäîëæàþò ñèëüíî âûïàäàòü. Íèêîãäà ðàíüøå òàêîãî íå áûëî. È êàê äîëãî ïðîäîëæàòü ïðèíèìàòü ãëþêîíàò æåëåçà â òàêîé âûñîêîé äîçèðîâêå? Ñïàñèáî çà âàøå âðåìÿ è âíèìàíèå. Èðèíà |
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äëÿ âàøåãî âåñà - íîðìàëüíàÿ äîçèðîâêà; óëó÷øåíèå ïî âîëîñàì íå ðàíåå ÷åì ÷åðåç 4-6 ìåñ.
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Âàäèì Âàëåðüåâè÷, äîáðûé âå÷åð.
ß ïðèíèìàëà ãëþêîíàò æåëåçà 650ìã äâàæäû â äåíü íà ïðîòÿæåíèè 6 ìåñÿöåâ ñ îêòÿáðÿ ïî ìàé. Ïîñëåäíèå 2 ìåñÿöà íè÷åãî íå ïðèíèìàëà. Ñäàëà àíàëèçû íà ýòîé íåäåëå, íå âñå ïîêàçàòåëè â íîðìå. Ïîäñêàæèòå, ïîæàëóéñòà, ÷òî íàäî êîððåêòèðîâàòü â ëå÷åíèè. Âîëîñû òàê è âûïàäàþò ñèëüíî. Ñïàñèáî áîëüøîå çà âàøå âðåìÿ. 1.pdf |
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îàê èäåàëåí, íåáîëüøîé äåôèöèò âèòàìèíà Ä, äîáàâüòå öèíê, ïðè÷èíà âûïàäåíèÿ âîëîñ íåïîíÿòíà, ìîæåò ðàöèîí ñåáå óðåçàëè?
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Ñïàñèáî, Âàäèì Âàëåðüåâè÷!
Íóæíî ëè ìíå äàëüøå ïðèíèìàòü æåëåçî? Ñîëíöà ó íàñ ìíîãî. Îòêóäà ìîæåò áûòü äåôèöèò âèòàìèíà Ä... È â êàêîé ôîðìå-äîçèðîâêå ïðèíèìàòü öèíê? Íå ñêàæó, ÷òî îãðàíè÷èâàþ ñåáÿ â ïèòàíèè (ìÿñî-ðûáà, îâîùè-ôðóêòû, ñûð-ìîëîêî-ÿéöà - âñå ïðèñóòñòâóåò â ðàöèîíå. PCP ñêàçàë, ÷òî íå çíàåò, ïî÷åìó ó ìåíÿ âîëîñû âûïàäàþò, íå âñòðå÷àëñÿ ñ òàêèì â ñâîåé ïðàêòèêå (graduated in 1950's) è ê êàêîìó âðà÷ó ìíå èäòè, íå çíàåò; ìîæåò, ãîâîðèò, ê äåðìàòîëîãó îáðàòèøüñÿ |
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íà÷èíàÿ ñ ñîîáøåíèÿ 83 è íèæå âûêëàäûâàë íåñê. îáçîðîâ, î ïðè÷èíàõ äèôô. âûïàäåíèÿ âîëîñ ó æåíøèí
https://forums.rusmedserv.com/showth...99#post2566499 âêëþ÷àÿ è Diet and hair loss: effects of nutrient deficiency and supplement use [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ] ìîæåò òàì, ÷òî-òî äëÿ ñåáÿ ïîëåçíîå íàéäåòå? äåôèöèò öèíêà ëèêâèäèðîâàòü ëó÷øå âñåãî öèíê õåëàòîì áèñãëèöèíàòîì (ñîëãàð è åìó ïîäîáíûå) GP è íå äîëæíû çàíèìàòüñÿ ïîèñêîì àëîïåöèé - åñòü ñïåö. êëèíèêè â øòàòàõ, êîòîðûå äåëàþò âñå âïëîòü äî ïåðåñàäêè âîëîñ
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Ñïàñèáî, Âàäèì Âàëåðüåâè÷!
Êàêîé öèíê âûáðàòü: [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ] èëè [Ññûëêè äîñòóïíû òîëüêî çàðåãèñòðèðîâàííûì ïîëüçîâàòåëÿì ] È ïðèíèìàòü ïî 1 òàáëåòêå, êàê óêàçàíî? |
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Îíè îäèíàêîâûå, ëþáîé ïî îäíîé â äåíü
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Ïðîäîëæåíèå
Çäðàâñòâóéòå, Âàäèì Âàëåðüåâè÷!
Ïðîäîëæåíèå ìîåé èñòîðèè. Æåëåçî äàâíî íå ïðèíèìàþ, ñ òåõ ïîð êàê óëó÷øèëèñü ïîêàçàòåëè. Â÷åðà îïÿòü áûëî íåñêîëüêî ïðèñòóïîâ ñèëüíåéøåé ñëàáîñòè â òå÷åíèå ÷àñà: ëåæàëà, íå ìîãëà äâèãàòüñÿ, ëåãêîå ïîêàëûâàíèå â ïàëüöàõ íîã, ðóê è ãóáàõ, ñëåçû òåêëè ñàìîïðîèçâîëüíî, îùóùåíèå, ÷òî íà ìíå ëåæèò îãðîìíûé òÿæåëûé ìåøîê. Áîëè â ãðóäè íå áûëî. 3 èëè 4 ïðèñòóïà â òå÷åíèå ÷àñà ñ èíòåðâàëàìè ìåíåå 5 ìèíóò. Ïîñëå ýòîãî ñèëüíåéøàÿ ñëàáîñòü, õîäèëà ìåäëåííî, îïèðàÿñü íà ñòåíû è ñòóëüÿ. ×åðåç íåêîòîðîå âðåìÿ ïîÿâèëàñü íåñèëüíàÿ ãîëîâíàÿ áîëü è ãîëîâîêðóæåíèå. Ìû ïåðååõàëè è PCP ó ìåíÿ çäåñü ïîêà íåò, ïîøëà â UC, òàì ñêàçàëè, ÷òî èõ âîçìîæíîñòè îãðàíè÷åíû è íàïðàâèëè â ER.  ER âçÿëè àíàëèçû êðîâè è ìî÷è, ñäåëàëè ÝÊà è CT scan ãîëîâû. Ñêàçàëè, ÷òî âñå â ïîðÿäêå, îòêëîíåíèé íèêàêèõ íåò. Òàêæå ñäåëàëè êàïåëüíèöó ñ ôèçðàñòâîðîì. Ñêàçàëè, ÷òî âîçìîæíî èç-çà äåãèäðàòàöèè, èëè íåäîñòàòêà êàêèõ-òî ìèíåðàëîâ/ýëåìåíòîâ. Íàïðàâèëè ê PCP. Ïðèâîæó ðåçóëüòàòû àíàëèçîâ: Âîçìîæíî ìîå òàêîå ñîñòîÿíèå èç-çà àíåìèè îïÿòü? Èëè íàäî êîïàòü â äðóãîì íàïðàâëåíèè? Ñòðàøíî, åñëè ñëó÷èòñÿ òàêîå çà ðóëåì... Ñïàñèáî! Èðèíà |
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àíåìèÿ èìååòñÿ - ãåìîãëîáèí ìåíåå 120, ìîæåò áûòü ÷àñòè÷íî è èç-çà àíåìèçàöèè
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Äîáðûé âå÷åð!
Áûëà ó òåðàïåâòà. Ïî ðåçóëüòàòàì îñìîòðà - âñå â ïîðÿäêå, íàïðàâèëè ê íåâðîëîãó. Ðåçóëüòàòû àíàëèçîâ: Order: TIBC (IN-HOUSE) Name Date Value Units Range IRON 3/28/2019 43.00 ug/dL 50-170 TIBC 3/28/2019 510.00 ug/dL 240-450 % SAT 3/28/2019 8.00 %(CALC) 15-50 Order: VITAMIN B12 Name Date Value Units Range VB12 3/28/2019 376.00 pg/mL 211-911 Order: VITAMIN D,25-HYDROXY Name Date. Value Units Range VitD 3/28/2019 24.00 ng/mL 30-100 Ïî ðåçóëüòàòàì àíàëèçîâ - iron deficiency è Vitamin D insufficiency. Íàçíà÷èëè: 1) Ergocalciferol 50000 UNIT Oral Capsule; 1 Capsule weekly, #12 2) Ferrous Sulfate 325 (65 Fe) MG Oral Tablet Delayed Release; 1 Tablet qd, #90 3) Vitamin D3 Super Strength 2000 UNIT Oral Capsule; 1 Capsule qd, #90, Ref. x3. Íóæíî ëè èçìåíèòü ÷òî-ëèáî â íàçíà÷åíèÿõ è ìîæíî ëè çàìåíèòü ferrous sulfate íà ferrous gluconate? Ñïàñèáî! Èðèíà |
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èëè 1) èëè 3) - íå âìåñòå,
2) âìåñòî ñóëüôàòà ëó÷øå áèñãëèöèíàò 25 ìã - â ëþáîì ñóïåðìàðêåòå äî 10 óå
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Òîæå ïîäóìàëà, ÷òî î÷åíü ìíîãî âèò Ä, íî óæå íà÷àëà ïðèíèìàòü 3) è â÷åðà ïåðâûé ðàç äîáàâèëà 1), íî áîëüøå íå áóäó. Æèâà, íî ÷óâñòâóþ ñåáÿ ñåãîäíÿ íå î÷åíü õîðîøî
ß ïðèíèìàëà â ïðîøëûé ðàç ãëþêîíàò æåëåçà è ó ìåíÿ íå áûëî íèêàêèõ ïðîáëåì ñ æèâîòîì, ïîòîì îäèí ðàç âçÿëà ñîëãàð áèñöèãëèíàò - íå ïîøåë (ó ìåíÿ ïðîáëåìû ñ ïîäæåëóäî÷íîé ðàíüøå áûëè, è ïðè ïðèåìå áèñöèãëèíàòà áûëè áîëè â æèâîòå è âçäóòèå). Ïîýòîìó õîòåëà áû çàìåíèòü íà ãëþêîíàò è â êàêîé äîçèðîâêå ëó÷øå? Ñïàñèáî îãðîìíîå çà ïîìîùü! |
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Ïîëàãàþ, ÷òî 50 ìã äîëæíî õâàòèòü, íî ëþáàÿ äîçà50...70 ìã ÎÊ â çàâèñèìîñòè îò êîëè÷åñòâà â òàáëåòêå
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