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Ñòàðûé 27.06.2003, 21:48
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Óâàæàåìûå âðà÷è. Ïîæàëóéñòà, îáúÿñíèòå ìíå äåéñòâèòåëüíî ëè íåò àëüòåðíàòèâû è êàêèå ïóòè âîçìîæíû. Ìíå 45 ëåò. îêîëî ãîäà òîìó îïðåäåëèëè ôèáðîìèîìó 8-9 íåäåëü. Òåïåðü, ïîñëå ïîâòîðíîãî îáñëåäîâàíèÿ 9-10 íåäåëü. Ñêîðî ìíå ïðåäñòîèò ãèñòåðîñêîïèÿ è â êîíöå ñëåäóþùåãî ìåñÿöà íàçíà÷èëè îïåðàöèþ ïî óäàëåíèþ ìàòêè. Ïîëîñíóþ. Ìîæåò áûòü ìîæíî ïðèìåíèòü ïî îòíîøåíèþ êî ìíå äðóãóþ òàêòèêó ëå÷åíèÿ? Áîëüøîå ñïàñèáî. Ñâåòëàíà.
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Ñòàðûé 29.06.2003, 18:32
Gromoboy Gromoboy âíå ôîðóìà Ïîë ìóæñêîé
çàáàíåí
 
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Gromoboy
 ãîìåîïàòèè ïðè îïóõîëåâûõ çàáîëåâàíèÿõ ìàòêè íåïëîõî ñåáÿ çàðåêîìåíäîâàëè ïðåïàðàòû çîëîòà. Òàêæå ýôôåêòèâíà è àíòèãîìîòîêñèêîëîãè÷åñêàÿ òåðàïèÿ.
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Ñòàðûé 30.06.2003, 12:12
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,976
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,502 ðàç(à) çà 31,838 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ñóùåñòâóåò ïðåïàðàò leuprorelin acetate (Enantone-Gyn monthly depot), êîòîðûé ñíèæàåò óðîâåíü ýñòðîãåíîâ, ÷òî âåäåò ê ïðåêðàùåíèþ ðîñòà ìèîìàò. óçëîâ èëè äàæå óìåíüøåíèþ èõ îáüåìà. òàêîå ëå÷åíèå â òå÷åíèè ïîëãîäà ïîçâîëèëî óìåíüøèòü ÷èñëî ãèñòåðýêòîìèé è ëàïàðîòîìèé çà ñ÷åò óâåëè÷åíèÿ ëàïàðîñêîïè÷åñêèõ ýíóêëåàöèé.

Zentralbl Gynakol. 1997;119(10):468-75.
[Treatment of uterine leiomyoma with depot leuprorelin acetate (Enantone-Gyn monthly depot). Effect on leiomyoma volume and operability. German Leuprorelin Study Group]
Stolz W, Pfutzenreuter N.
Tagesklinik Munchen-Nord.
In an open, non-comparative clinical phase IV multicentre study the efficacy and safety of the GnRH agonist leuprorelin acetate depot (LAD) for patients with at least one symptomatic uterine leiomyoma was assessed. 144 premenopausal patients were enrolled and treated with up to six injections of 3.75 mg LAD/month subcutaneously prior to surgical intervention, e.g. either hysterectomy or myoma enucleation. Due to a profound suppression of serum-estradiol levels to castration range (< or = 30 pg/ml) an average volume reduction of all myomas from 86.6 +/- 101.3 ml to 38.5 +/- 63.5 ml became obvious for 90% of all patients. In parallel a significant shrinkage of uterine volume was observed. At baseline 43 patients were planned to undergo a hysterectomy. 29 of these 43 patients could be switched after therapy with LAD to an enucleation as appropriate surgical treatment. In addition a number of patients with scheduled myoma enucleations which were planned to be performed via laparotomy could definitely be operated laparoscopically. Treatment was generally well tolerated. Most of the observed side effects were related to hypoestrogenism. The results of this study have shown that medical pretreatment for patients with uterine fibroids with LAD prior to surgical intervention is an effective measure to improve operability and could lead for several patients to minimal invasive surgery.

Àäüþâàíòíàÿ òåðàïèÿ òèáîëîíîì ïîìîãàåò ñíèçèòü ïîáî÷íûå ýôôåêòû leuprorelin acetate, ñâÿçàííûå ñ ãèïîýñòðîãåíåìèåé:
Palomba S, Affinito P, Di Carlo C, Bifulco G, Nappi C.
Long-term administration of tibolone plus gonadotropin-releasing hormone agonist for the treatment of uterine leiomyomas: effectiveness and effects on vasomotor symptoms, bone mass, and lipid profiles.
Fertil Steril. 1999 Nov;72(5):889-95.

Palomba S, Affinito P, Tommaselli GA, Nappi C.
A clinical trial of the effects of tibolone administered with gonadotropin-releasing hormone analogues for the treatment of uterine leiomyomata.
Fertil Steril. 1998 Jul;70(1):111-8.
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Ñòàðûé 30.06.2003, 14:44
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Áîëüøîå ñïàñèáî çà îòâåòû! Ãäå òàê ëå÷àò? Íóæíî ñàìîñòîÿòåëüíî èñêàòü ýòîò ïðåïàðàò, ïðåäëàãàòü íàøèì äîêòîðîàì? Íå ëó÷øå ëè ðàäèêàëüíî, êàê ãîâîðèòñÿ, ñäåëàòü è çàáûòü? ×åì ÷ðåâàòî? ß ïðî÷èòàëà, ÷òî ÷åðåç 2-3 ãîäà ïðåêðàùàþò ôóíêöèîíèðîâàòü ÿè÷íèêè. È ÷òî ïîòîì ïðîèñõîäèò? Ðåçêîå ñòàðåíèå? À åñëè ãîòîâèòüñÿ ê îïåðàöèè, òî ÷òî ìîæíî ïîñîâåòîâàòü? Ìíå ñêàçàëè, ÷òî â áîëüíèöå äàæå íàðêîç ðàçíûé áûâàåò è âèäû øâîâ. Äåëàþò ëè òàêóþ îïåðàöèþ ïîä ìåñòíûì îáåçáàëèâàíèåì? Ñïàñèáî!
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Ñòàðûé 30.06.2003, 15:16
Àâàòàð äëÿ Dr.Vad
Dr.Vad Dr.Vad âíå ôîðóìà
Ìîäåðàòîð ôîðóìà ïî ãåìàòîëîãèè
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 16.01.2003
Ãîðîä: Õüþñòîí, Òåõàñ
Ñîîáùåíèé: 80,976
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,502 ðàç(à) çà 31,838 ñîîáùåíèé
Dr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåDr.Vad ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
óâàæàåìàÿ Ñâåòëàíà!
Âû ñïðîñèëè îá àëüòåðíàòèâàõ ïîëîñòíîé ãèñòåðýêòîìèè; òàê ëå÷àò â Åâðîïå, íå çíàþ íè÷åãî î íàëè÷èè ïðåïàðàòà â Ðîññèè èëè îá îïûòå âëàäåíèÿ äàííîé òåõíèêîé â Âàøåé êëèíèêå. Íàâåíîå, Âû ïðàâû, ïðîùå è äåøåâëå, òî ÷òî ïðåäëàãàþò; óëó÷øåíèå êà÷åñòâà âñåãäà ñîïðîâîæäàåòñÿ èçëèøíèìè òðàòàìè è áåãîòíåé â ïîèñêàõ ñïåöîâ.
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Ñòàðûé 30.06.2003, 16:10
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Îáðàùàþñü ê Dr. Vad. Áîëüøîå ñïàñèáî çà îáúÿñíåíèå. Êàê ëå÷àò â Åâðîïå - ýòî î÷åíü èíåòåñíî, êîíå÷íî, íî ìíå, â ðåàëüíîé ñèòóàöèè, ýòî íè÷åãî íå äàñò :-) È ñîâñåì íå äåëî â ëèøíèõ òðàòàõ. ß õî÷ó ïîíÿòü, ÷òî âîîáùå âîçìîæíî ñäåëàòü â ìîåé ñèòóàöèè. ß, ïî-ìîåìó, è ïûòàþñü íàéòè ýòî, áîëåå êà÷åñòâåííîå ëå÷åíèå. Ïîýòîìó è ñïðîñèëà.
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Ñòàðûé 13.07.2003, 21:08
Tatiana Che
Ãîñòü
 
Ñîîáùåíèé: n/a
Câåòëàíà,

êîíñåðâàòèâíîå ëå÷åíèå ìèîìû ìàòêè - ðÿäîâîé ìåòîä óæå ìíîãî ëåò, ïðè÷åì âîçìîæíû ðàçíûå âàðèàíòû òåðàïèè. Öåëü êîíñåðâàòèâíîé òåðàïèè - "äîòÿíóòü" äî íàñòóïëåíèÿ åñòåñòâåííîé ìåíîïàóçû, êîãäà ìåíñòðóàöèè ïðåêðàòÿòñÿ, è ìèîìà ïåðåñòàíåò óâåëè÷èâàòüñÿ, òî÷íåå ìîæåò óìåíüøèòüñÿ â ðàçìåðàõ. Íî äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû îïðåäåëèòüñÿ, ÷òî ïðåäïî÷òèòåëüíåå èìåííî äëÿ Âàñ (êîíñåðâàòèâíîå ëå÷åíèå èëè ðàäèêàëüíîå), íóæíî áîëüøå èíôîðìàöèè.
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Ñòàðûé 13.07.2003, 22:15
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 ÷åòâåðã ìíå äåëàëè äèàãíîñòè÷åñêóþ ãèñòåðîñêîïèþ. Ðåçóëüòàòû áóäóò åùå íå ñêîðî, íî äîêòîð ñêàçàë, ÷òî íèêàêîãî ðàêà òàì íåò, òî÷íî (öèòèðóþ). Èíòåðåñíî äåéñòâèòåëüíî ëè âèçóàëüíî ìîæíî ýòî îïðåäåëèòü? Ñêàçàë, ÷òî òàì óçåë íà óçëå, ïðîñòî ñòîëîêòèòû è îïåðàöèþ äåëàòü íóæíî îäíîçíà÷íî, ïðè÷åì íå îòêëàäûâàÿ, ÷òîáû íå äîæäàòüñÿ êàêèõ-òî îñëîæíåíé. Îáúåì îïåðàöèè îïðåäåëÿåò âðà÷ èñõîäÿ èç îáñòîÿòåëüñòâ, à êàêèõ èíòåðåñíî? ß ñïðîñèëà ïðî êîíñåðâàòèâíîå ëå÷åíèå, îí òîëüêî ðóêîé ìàõíóë, ìîë, ãëóïîñòè.  äèàãíîñòè÷åñêîì öåíòðå, êóäà ÿ åçäèëà íà êîíñóëüòàöèþ ñêàçàëè - îäíîçíà÷íî óäàëÿòü. Íàøè ìåñòíûå âðà÷è òîæå â îäèí ãîëîñ, êàê áóäòî áû âîîáùå íå ñóùåñòâóåò íèêàêîé àëüòåðíàòèâû... Ãîâîðÿò, ÷òî ïî ñòàíäàðòàì ÂÎÇ è âåäóùèõ ìèðîâûõ êëèíèê âñå îïóõîëè æåíñêîé ïîëîâîé
ñôåðû ïîñëå 40 ëåò ïîäëåæàò îïåðàòèâíîìó óäàëåíèþ, ñ ïîñëåäóþùèì ãèñòîëîãè÷åñêèì èññëåäîâàíèåì - ïðîôèëàêòèêà îíêîëîãè÷åñêèõ çàáîëåâàíèé. Ãëàâíîå, ÷òî ñåé÷àñ ó ìåíÿ ñèòóàöèÿ òàêàÿ, ÷òî íå õîòåëîñü áû âûáûòü èç ñòðîÿ, õîòÿ áû äî îñåíè.
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 14.07.2003, 11:42
Tatiana Che
Ãîñòü
 
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ß âàì îòâåòèëà çäåñü http://forums.rusmedserv.com/showthr...3640#post43640
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 14.07.2003, 14:05
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Ñïàñèáî! ß çàâòðà ïîïûòàþñü ïîëó÷èòü ýòó èíôîðìàöþ, ïîòîìó ÷òî íà ðóêàõ ó ìåíÿ íè÷åãî íåò. À êóäà ïèñàòü? Çäåñü æå?
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