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Ñòàðûé 05.01.2021, 17:43
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,447
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,683 ðàç(à) çà 32,757 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Íîâîñòè ýíäîêðèíîëîãèè, çàïèñíàÿ êíèæêà

ß ïûòàëàñü ñåÿòü ðàçóìíîå è äàæå ãäå- òî âå÷íîå íà ñîâåðøåííî ïîðàçèòåëüíîì ïî ñêîïëåíèþ ñâîåîáðàçíûõ ëè÷íîñòåé ôîðóìå Âðà÷è ÐÔ, íî ïîòåðïåëà ôèàñêî è ñåé÷àñ ïîïðîáóþ ñâîþ çàïèñíóþ êíèæêó ( ÷òî ïîêàçàëîñü ëþáîïûòíûì) íà÷àòü íà ëþáèìîì ôîðóìå ÐÌÑ
Âûéäåò ðóññêèé ïåðåâîä Ýíäîêðèíîëîãèè ñòàðåíèÿ , âîò ëþáîïûòíûå çàðèñîâêè
Macimorelin - ñèíòåòè÷åñêèé àãîíèñò Ðåöåïòîðà ê ãðåëèíó äëÿ òåñòîâ íà ñåêðåöèþ ÑÒÃ, ïðèðîñò îöåíèâàåòñÿ ïðè ïåðîðàëüíîì ( !) ïðèåìå.
Íåóæåëè ìû ïðîñòèìñÿ ñ èíñóëèíîâîé ãèïîãëèêåìèåé êàê òåñòîì ? Ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå â ïîèñêàõ äåôèöèòà ÃÐ?
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Ã.À. Ìåëüíè÷åíêî
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 20.01.2021, 12:47
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,447
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,683 ðàç(à) çà 32,757 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
"The current study confirms and extends earlier reports showing that antibody blockade of ActRII [activin type II receptor] with bimagrumab in human participants leads to a marked loss in fat mass, an increase in lean mass, and improvement in a range of metabolic biomarkers," the team wrote. "These findings suggest that blockade of the activin receptor with bimagrumab could provide a novel pharmacologic approach for managing patients with type 2 diabetes with excess adiposity."
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Ã.À. Ìåëüíè÷åíêî
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 20.01.2021, 16:23
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,447
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,683 ðàç(à) çà 32,757 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Metformin as a stand-alone or adjuvant therapy was associated with improvement in acne in patients with polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS), researchers reported in a study published the American Journal of Clinical Dermatology.

The investigators conducted a systematic review and meta-analysis regarding the efficacy of metformin in treating patients with acne related to PCOS. The review included randomized controlled trials, nonrandomized controlled trials, and open-label studies of patients with PCOS who were treated with metformin. Standardized mean differences (SMDs) were calculated for acne scores and odds ratios (ORs) for the presence of acne, with 95% confidence intervals (CIs).

The analysis included 51 studies with a total of 2405 patients with PCOS. The researchers found that metformin as adjuvant therapy led to greater improvement of acne scores compared with the same therapy without metformin (SMD −0.256; 95% CI −0.439 to −0.074). Pooling pre-metformin and post-metformin treatment data showed a significant decrease in acne scores after metformin use (SMD −0.712; 95% CI −0.949 to −0.476). The presence of acne decreased significantly after metformin treatment (odds ratio [OR] 0.362; 95% CI 0.271-0.485).

Among several limitations, the included studies varied regarding grading acne severity or assessing the presence of acne, metformin dosage, and treatment duration. Also, the investigators could not account for confounding factors such as body mass index, glucose, insulin, and hormone status or assess medication adherence.

The researchers noted that further studies with standardized acne grading scales are needed to more precisely assess the effect of metformin on acne in women who have PCOS.

“Based on this systematic review and meta-analysis, metformin, either as individual or adjuvant therapy, may be effective in treating acne in women with PCOS, especially among those who have diabetes or wish to conceive,” stated the study authors.

“After considering other indications and contraindications, metformin can be considered for use in women with polycystic ovary syndrome for treatment of acne,” the study authors stated.

Reference

Yen H, Chang Y-T, Yee FJ, Huang Y-C. Metformin therapy for acne in patients with polycystic ovary syndrome: A systematic review and meta‑analysis [published online October 13, 2020]. Am J Clin Dermatol. doi: 10.1007/s40257-020-00565-5

This article originally appeared on Dermatology Advisor

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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 22.01.2021, 21:59
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ghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Äàâíî èä¸ò âåæëèâûé, íî îæåñòî÷¸ííûé ñïîð: â ÷¸ì ïðè÷èíà ÑÏÊß? Àíäðåà Äóíàéô ðàòóåò çà èíñóëèí, Äæîí Ìàðøàëë çà ÷àñòûå ïóëüñû ÃíÐÃ, íå ïîäàâëÿåìûå ïðîãåñòåðîíîì. Åãî äàííûå áåçóïðå÷íî äîêàçàíû øàã çà øàãîì. Íî êàê íè êðóòè, à àíîâóëÿöèÿ ñ îáðàçîâàíèåì êèñò ýòî ÷àñòàÿ ÷åðòà îæèðåíèÿ. È òî, ÷òî ñíèæåíèå èíñóëèíà âîññòàíàâëèâàåò îâóëÿöèè è ñíèæàåò àíäðîãåíû ýòî ôàêò. È íóæåí êòî-òî óìíûé, êîòîðûé ïðèäóìàåò ïðîòîêîë ( èëè ñåðèþ èõ) êàê ñëîæèòü ýòè 2 è 2 âìåñòå.
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Dr.B
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 22.01.2021, 22:04
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,447
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,683 ðàç(à) çà 32,757 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
ÑÏÊß ìû ëå÷èëè êëîìèôåíoì, äèåòîé, âèòàìèíàìè, àäèïîçèíîì ( ìèð åãî ïðàõó) è äàæå áèéîõèíîëîì - è âñå ðàâíî êòî- òî áåðåìåíåë.
Áîþñü, ÷òî ÑÏÊß ðàçíûå.

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
FilippovaYulia îäîáðèë(à): Òàê æå êàê ðàçíûå ñàõàðíûå äèàáåòû âðîäå áû îäíîãî è òîãî æå 2 òèïà
ghrh44 îäîáðèë(à): Òàê æå, êàê è ãèïîòèðîèäèçìû. è ãèïåðòîíèè, è ïîíîñû....
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Ã.À. Ìåëüíè÷åíêî
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 09.02.2021, 08:49
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,447
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,683 ðàç(à) çà 32,757 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
A phase I study is now underway for an investigational, oral adrenocorticotropic hormone antagonist, CRN04894, aimed at the treatment of congenial adrenal hyperplasia and Cushing's disease, Crinetics Pharmaceuticals announced.
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Ã.À. Ìåëüíè÷åíêî
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 09.02.2021, 08:58
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,447
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,683 ðàç(à) çà 32,757 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
À âîò ýòî óæå ïîõóæå:
Brain Tumor Risk Upped With Synthetic Progestogen
— Absolute risk still low, however, and product not currently approved in U.S.
by Kristen Monaco, Staff Writer, MedPage Today February 3, 2021


A box of cyproterone acetate tablets over a computer rendering of a brain tumor
Women taking the synthetic progestogen cyproterone acetate were at increased risk for brain tumors, a French study found.

The analysis of data on over 250,000 girls and women who filled a prescription for cyproterone acetate showed that these individuals had a six-fold higher risk for developing an intracranial meningiomas compared with women not using the hormone (adjusted hazard ratio 6.6, 95% CI 4.0-11.1), reported Alain Weill, MD, of EPI-PHARE Scientific Interest Group in France, and colleagues in The BMJ.

Cyproterone acetate, a synthetic progestogen with antiandrogen effects, is currently approved in most European countries but not in the U.S. Across Europe, the drug has varying indications, including for hirsutism or hyperandrogenism spectrum in women and inoperable prostate cancer and paraphilias in men. In addition, given the antiandrogen properties, cyproterone acetate is also used as feminizing hormone therapy for transgender women.

Weill and colleagues also found that the relationship was dose-dependent, with women exposed to a cumulative dose of more than 60 g of cyproterone acetate -- the highest exposure group -- showing a nearly 22-fold increased risk (aHR 21.7, 95% CI 10.8-43.5).

Although the absolute risk for intracranial meningiomas requiring surgery or radiotherapy was low, there were 69 cases of meningiomas reported in women exposed to the hormone (289,544 person-years of follow-up) compared with 20 cases in the control group not exposed (439,949 person-years of follow-up).

This increased risk rapidly dropped off after discontinuation of cyproterone acetate. After the hormone was stopped for 1 year, the risk for meningioma dropped to only 1.8-fold higher than women never exposed (aHR 1.8, 95% CI 1.0 to 3.2). However, the risk was still more than four times higher if the cumulative dose prior to discontinuation was 12 g or more (aHR 4.2, 95% CI 2.2-8.0).


These new meningioma cases specifically tied to cyproterone acetate tended to be located in the anterior skull base and middle skull base -- mostly in the medial third of the middle skull base involving the spheno-orbital region, the researchers noted. In particular, there was a 47-fold (95% CI 14.9 -149.1) increased risk for meningiomas in the anterior skull base tied to prolonged use of cyproterone acetate.

Nearly all were treated with a neurosurgical procedure, while few received radiotherapy alone.

"Most of the participants with meningioma had taken cyproterone acetate for off-label indications, and around 30% had even continued or resumed cyproterone acetate after treatment of the meningioma, which has been formally contraindicated since 2011," the team wrote.

The observational analysis included data from 253,777 girls and women ages 7 to 70 from SNDS, a French administrative healthcare database covering the entire population of the country. All had been recorded as having at least one reimbursement for cyproterone acetate between 2007 and 2014; the majority were prescribed the therapy by a gynecologist (57%), followed by a general practitioner (18%), dermatologist (12%), or endocrinologist (10%).


Similar findings were seen in a separate analysis looking only at transgender patients prescribed the agent. There was a high risk for meningioma among these patients, with an incidence rate of 20.7 cases per 100,000 person-years. Notably, these patients tended to receive much higher daily doses compared with other patient populations, with all cases of meningioma occurring in those taking daily doses of 100-150 mg, the researchers said.

"People who use high-dose cyproterone acetate for at least 3 to 5 years should be informed about the increased risk of intracranial meningioma," Weill's group wrote. "The indication of cyproterone acetate should be clearly defined and the lowest possible daily dose used."

However, if prolonged high-dose use is necessary, patients should be screened for meningioma via magnetic resonance imaging, the researchers advised.

"In patients with a documented meningioma, cyproterone acetate should be discontinued, because the meningioma might regress in response to treatment discontinuation and invasive treatment could be avoided," the team concluded.
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  #8  
Ñòàðûé 07.04.2021, 11:32
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,447
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,683 ðàç(à) çà 32,757 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
SAN DIEGO, March 20, 2021 /PRNewswire/ -- Neurocrine Biosciences, Inc. (Nasdaq: NBIX) today announced that it will present additional positive data from its Phase II CAHlibrate study of crinecerfont, an investigational, oral, non-steroidal corticotropin-releasing factor type 1 (CRF1) receptor antagonist for the potential treatment of classic congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH) due to 21-hydroxylase deficiency (21-OHD), at ENDO 2021, the Endocrine Society's annual meeting, on March 20–23, 2021. These new analyses, based on data from seven male subjects with classic CAH receiving crinecerfont, demonstrate dose-dependent decreases in androstenedione (A4), a key marker of CAH control and precursor to testosterone, with similar dose-dependent decreases in the A4 to testosterone ratio. Testosterone levels were preserved despite the marked reductions in A4, suggesting a positive effect on reproductive hormones and providing early indications of improved testicular function. During the ENDO 2021 Virtual Poster Hall, Neurocrine Biosciences will present the Phase II CAHlibrate data, along with two additional abstracts that highlight real-world data evaluating the impact of CAH in adult and pediatric patients.

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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #9  
Ñòàðûé 07.04.2021, 14:33
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Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 21.07.2014
Ãîðîä: N-sk
Ñîîáùåíèé: 4,009
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 2,055 ðàç(à) çà 1,899 ñîîáùåíèé
ghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Íà÷èíàåòñÿ ýðà ñèíòåòè÷åñêèõ ìîäóëÿòîðîâ ðàçíûõ ðåöåïòîðîâ.
Ñîìàâåðò áûë ïåðâîé ëàñòî÷êîé: îáà ñâÿçûâàþùèõ ìåñòà ãîðìîíà ðîñòà áûëè ìîäèôèöèðîâàíû ÷èñòî ïî êîíôîðìàöèîííûì ñîîáðàæåíèÿì, îäíî ìåñòî ñ óñèëåííûì ñâÿçûâàíèåì ñ îäíèì ðåöåïòîðîì, äðóãîå ñ êîíôîðìàöèåé , íå äàþùåé åìó ñâÿçàòüñÿ ñ äðóãîì ðåöåïòîðîì. Êàê ðåçóëüòàò, ïîëó÷èëñÿ àíòàãîíèñò ãîðìîíà ðîñòà: íåò äèìåðèçàöèè ðåöåïòîðîâ, - íåò ýôôåêòà.
Êîìïàíèÿ Êðèíåòèêñ óæå ñäåëàëà ÷èñòûé àãîíèñò ñîìàòîñòàòèíîâîãî ðåöåïòîðà Òèï 2: ýòî ìàëåíüêàÿ ìîëåêóëà, ñòðóêòóðàëüíî íè÷åãî îáùåãî ñ ñîìàòîñòàòèíîì íå èìåþùàÿ, ÷èñòî êîíôîðìàöèÿ ñâÿçûâàþùåãî ìåñòà. Î÷åíü õîðîøî ðàáîòàåò ïðè àêðîìåãàëèè.
Ó íèõ åñòü ïîäîáíîãî æå òèïà àíòàãîíèñò äëÿ 5 òèïà: äëÿ ãèïîãëèêåìèè ó äåòåé è ïðè èíñóëèíîìàõ
Åñòü ó íèõ è small molecule àíòàãîíèñò êîðòèêîëèáåðèíà, êàê è îïèñàííûé âûøå Ã.À.
Àíòàãîíèñòû ãîíàäîëèáåðèíà äëÿ ïðåæäåâðåìåííîãî ïîëîâîãî ñîçðåâàíèÿ, àíòàãîíèñòû ÒÒÃ è ÈÔÐ-1 äëÿ îôòàëüìîïàòèè Ãðåéâñà íà ãîðèçîíòå.
Ãðîìàäíûé ïëþñ òàêîãî ïîäõîäà ýòî òî, ÷òî âñå îíè íå ðàçðóøàþòñÿ ïåïòèäàçàìè ( îíè íå ïåïòèäû) , è îíè ýôôåêòèâíû ïåð îñ.

Òî, ÷òî ìåíèíãèîìû ðàñòóò íà ïðîãåñòåðîíå, èçâåñòíî äàâíî, è íàçíà÷åíèå àãîíèñòîâ ïðîãåñòåðîíà áûëî êðàéíå îãðàíè÷åíî ó ëþäåé ñ ìåíèíãèîìàìè. Ìèôåïðèñòîí ïðèìåíÿåòñÿ ïðè íèõ øèðîêî. Òàê ÷òî ñþðïðèç ìàëûé, íî àðãóìåíò ñèëüíûé.

Âîò ïîíÿòü áû íåéðîòðàíñìèòòåð àïïåòèòà, òàê â òå÷åíèå ãîäà áóäåò àíòàãîíèñò.

Áëàãîäàðèòü çà âñ¸ ýòî íàäî áûâøåãî ïðåçèäåíòà ÑØÀ Ðè÷àðäà Íèêñîíà: îí ñîçäàë ïðîãðàììó "Âîéíà Ïðîòèâ Ðàêà". Êàê ðåçóëüòàò å¸, íà÷àëèñü øèðî÷àéøèå èññëåäîâàíèÿ â ìîëåêóëÿðíîé áèîëîãèè è ñìåæíûõ äèñöèïëèíàõ. Íà÷àëè ïðàêòè÷åñêè ñ íóëÿ, íî ìû òåïåðü ÷óòü ëè íå êàæäûå ïàðó ìåñÿöåâ ïîæèíàåì ïëîäû ýòîé " âîéíû" â âèäå íîâûõ è íîâûõ ëåêàðñòâ.
À Ñàí Äèåãî ýòî Êðåìíèåâàÿ Äîëèíà âñÿ÷åñêèõ " ëèáåðèíîâ" è àãîíèñòîâ/àíòàãîíèñòîâ èõ. Òàì ýòèõ ìàëåíüêèõ ñòàðòàïîâ âàãîí. Óâåðåí, ÷òî êòî-òî ðàáîòàåò íàä íå-ïåïòèäíûì àíòàãîíèñòîì ãîðìîíà ðîñòà.

Êîììåíòàðèè ê ñîîáùåíèþ:
Melnichenko îäîáðèë(à):
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #10  
Ñòàðûé 07.04.2021, 14:43
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,447
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,683 ðàç(à) çà 32,757 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
ß ïðîøó ïðîùåíèÿ ó àäìèíèñòðàöèè ôîðóìà- êîãäà -òî, íà çàðå íàøåé ðàáîòû, ìû ñòàðàòåëüíî ïåðåâîäèëè âñå íàøè íîâûå ñâåäåíèÿ, ñåé÷àñ, äóìàþ,íåò òàêîé íåîáõîäèìîñòè è, çíàþ, íåò âðåìåíè. È ñïàñèáî ïðîô Áàðêàíó çà î÷åíü âàæíûé êîììåíòàðèé
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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Ñòàðûé 05.05.2021, 17:11
ghrh44 ghrh44 âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 21.07.2014
Ãîðîä: N-sk
Ñîîáùåíèé: 4,009
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 2,055 ðàç(à) çà 1,899 ñîîáùåíèé
ghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
À âîò ïîòåíöèàëüíûé ïåðåâîðîò â äèàãíîñòèêå è ëîêàëèçàöèè êîðòèêîòðîïèíîì

doi: 10.1210/clinem/dgaa755

Ãðóïïà èç Èíäèè ñîçäàëà ðàäèîìå÷åíûé CRH .100% èäåíòèôèêàöèÿ êîðòèêîòðîïèíîì, ïðè÷åì äàæå íå âèäíûõ íà ÌÐÒ(!). Íàêëàäûâàíèå èçîáðàæåíèÿ ÏÝÒ íà ÌÐÒ ëîêàëèçîâàëî îïóõîëè ê ïðàâèëüíîìó ãåìèãèïîôèçó. À ýêòîïè÷åñêèå êîðòèêîòðîïèíîìû äàâàëè îòðèöàòåëüíûé àïòýéê â ãèïîôèçå.

Ïîêà òîëüêî 24 ñëó÷àÿ, òàê ÷òî íóæåí íàìíîãî áîëüøèé îïûò ñ ìîëåêóëîé, íî âàíãóþ, ÷òî ýòî ïîëíîñòüþ çàìåíèò êàòåòåðèçàöèþ êàìåíèñòûõ ñèíóñîâ, ïðè÷åì ñ ëó÷øèìè ðåçóëüòàòàìè.

ß íå óïîìíþ äðóãîé ñòàòüè â JCEM çà ïîñëåäíèå ãîäû, êîòîðàÿ çàñòàâèëà áû ìåíÿ âñòàòü è ñíÿòü øëÿïó.
ß èì íàïèñàë ïîçäðàâëåíèå, è îíè ìíå îòâåòèëè, ÷òî ýòî åùå íè÷åãî: ó íèõ óæå åñòü åùå ëó÷øàÿ ìîëåêóëà:-)
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Dr.B
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #12  
Ñòàðûé 28.06.2021, 16:01
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,447
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,683 ðàç(à) çà 32,757 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
For patients with congenital adrenal hyperplasia due to 21-hydroxylase deficiency, oral tildacerfont for up to 12 weeks helped to normalize adrenocorticotropic hormone and androstenedione levels in two phase II studies. (Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism)
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #13  
Ñòàðûé 24.07.2021, 19:20
ghrh44 ghrh44 âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 21.07.2014
Ãîðîä: N-sk
Ñîîáùåíèé: 4,009
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 2,055 ðàç(à) çà 1,899 ñîîáùåíèé
ghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Öèòàòà:
Ñîîáùåíèå îò Melnichenko Ïîñìîòðåòü ñîîáùåíèå
Macimorelin - ñèíòåòè÷åñêèé àãîíèñò Ðåöåïòîðà ê ãðåëèíó äëÿ òåñòîâ íà ñåêðåöèþ ÑÒÃ, ïðèðîñò îöåíèâàåòñÿ ïðè ïåðîðàëüíîì ( !) ïðèåìå.
Íåóæåëè ìû ïðîñòèìñÿ ñ èíñóëèíîâîé ãèïîãëèêåìèåé êàê òåñòîì ? Ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå â ïîèñêàõ äåôèöèòà ÃÐ?
Îäíà äîçà Ìàêðåëèíà ( ìàñèìîðåëèí) ïðîäà¸òñÿ çà ... ïðèñÿäüòå, ïîæàëóéñòà.... $4,500 ( äëÿ ïîëóîáìîðî÷íûõ ñëîâàìè: ÷åòûðå òûñÿ÷è ïÿòüñîò äîëëàðîâ. Àìåðèêàíñêèõ).
Ó÷èòûâàÿ, ÷òî ÷èñëî áîëüíûõ ñ ýïèëåïñèåé, àðèòìèÿìè , ñòåíîêàðäèåé, êîòîðûì íàäî èñêëþ÷àòü äåôèöèò ÃÐ ìîæíî ñîñ÷èòàòü íà ïàëüöàõ îäíîé, åø¸ íå àìïóòèðîâàííîé, íîãè, âñå îñòàëüíûå âçðîñëûå êàíäèäàòû íà âûÿâëåíèå ýòîé "ñìåðòåëüíîé áîëåçíè" ìîãóò ïðîõîäèòü èíñóëèíîâóþ ãèïîãëèêåìèþ èëè òåñò ñ ãëþêàãîíîì, èëè àðãèíèíîì. Ìàêðåëèí íå îöåíèâàåò ÀÊÒÃ/Êîðòèçîë. Äåòÿì íàäî äåëàòü ÈÒÒ ( êðîìå ýïèëåïñèè, êîíå÷íî, äëÿ íèõ ãëþêàãîí èëè àðãèíèí).

À âîò âìåñòî ÈÒÒ äëÿ äåôèöèòà ÀÊÒà õîðîøî áû ïîïðîáîâàòü ìèôåïðèñòîí: íàìíîãî ïðîùå, ÷åì ìåòîïèðîí, íå äà¸ò òîøíîòû, îäíà äîçà âå÷åðîì (ìîæåò áûòü åù¸ îäíà äîçà ðàíî óòðîì) è â 8-9 óòðà âçÿòü ÀÊÒà è êîðòèçîë.
Êòî-òî õî÷åò ñäåëàòü ðàáîòó?
Ïåðâûì äåëîì, êîíå÷íî, ó ìóæ÷èí.
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Dr.B
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #14  
Ñòàðûé 24.07.2021, 19:24
ghrh44 ghrh44 âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 21.07.2014
Ãîðîä: N-sk
Ñîîáùåíèé: 4,009
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 2,055 ðàç(à) çà 1,899 ñîîáùåíèé
ghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåghrh44 ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Äóáëü. Ïðîøó ïàðäîíó.
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Dr.B
Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
  #15  
Ñòàðûé 24.07.2021, 19:28
Àâàòàð äëÿ Melnichenko
Melnichenko Melnichenko âíå ôîðóìà
ÂÐÀ×
      
 
Ðåãèñòðàöèÿ: 26.07.2001
Ãîðîä: Ìîñêâà
Ñîîáùåíèé: 117,447
Ñêàçàë(à) ñïàñèáî: 26
Ïîáëàãîäàðèëè 33,683 ðàç(à) çà 32,757 ñîîáùåíèé
Melnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìåMelnichenko ýòîò ó÷àñòíèê èìååò ïðåâîñõîäíóþ ðåïóòàöèþ íà ôîðóìå
Ìèôèïðèñòîí- ãåíèàëüíî, íàäî ïîïðîáîâàòü.
Ïîãîâîðþ ñ ïðîèçâîäèòåëÿìè ( ó ìåíÿ Æàííà íå î÷åíü ëþáèò ýòîò ïðåïàðàò, ê ñîæàëåíèþ)
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Îòâåòèòü ñ öèòèðîâàíèåì
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